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Holy hell Gits! with the details done that looks brilliant! really nicely done and the small additions of gold and white work great, the main hull looks heaps better now with that bit of darker shade. it's all easier now for next time

Thanks guys. I like it. Definately a step above what I've done on this army before. Trick is to maintain this level of quality from now on.

This is really fantastic work. It's really encouraging/slightly depressing to see great painters raise their game even further! It shows, actually, what a great place dakka is - I know you've forced me to raise my game with C&C, and what you've produced here off the back of (especially) MajorTom's input is simply outstanding.

Hey Gitsy, no worries on the panels!

They are actually trickier than I thought, I thought the upper panel was a sharp edge, but I saw on another model that it actually gently curves over making it harder to deal with with modulation.

I prepared an example for how I think you would get around it just for the sake of the conversation, I know it is on to the next one and it still looks awesome anyhow, but so you and others can see -


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So basically, do the the curve, a soft transition to the magenta, then back to dark, and back to magenta at the back edge. I would not make it as bright as the panel begining... so basically, when encountering a curve instead of a facet, you dont do the hard-stop brightest to darkest no transition, you instead transition smoothly again. If that makes sense?

Still think a careful wash would be helpful, especially on the shins/feet, to 'blackline' the armor seams and toe lobstering and get a bit more definition out there. If you stare at the top, you can see there is some nice strong chiaroscuro, light to dark, but on the shins they are much more flat and the detail is harder to pick out.

Still, be proud of yourself, this is a significant improvement and now that you know how to do it, it will be that much faster next time



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Ah eff it lol -

Here is what the legs would look like black-lined/washed and with a bit more contrast, a little bit applied to a few of the major panel seams on top too -



See what I mean there?

Ahhhh! I get it now. No wonder I was confused.

I will go back and do the lining for sure... the next projects are both going to need a bit of work before they're ready for prime time, so the lining will be a nice diversion and I agree, will improve the model. See, I couldn't keep going because then I just get depressed about the project never being done. But if I unilaterally just declare it "Done"... I can then go back to it and fix it up without feeling bad about it. Psychology... it works!

You are a mad genius Tom... thanks for sticking with me.

If you're going to apply a wash to the feet to enhance contrast and make their parts distinct, I'd recommend also a lick of it around the rivets. Especially where there's a magenta gradient, their golden tone is pretty similar to that of the surface.

Good catch linds, there should be a ring around those rivets... but in the midst of all the repainting and touch-ups I forgot to do it. I'll get it on there.

I did do the black lining on the seams and feet. That did help it pop nicely.


Right now I am awash in airbrushes! Took MajorTom11's advice and picked up an Iwata and a couple of cheapie Master brushes as back-ups/extras. New hose came in too. All I'm waiting on now is the new compressor. In the mean-time I'll fiddle with the Leviathan and the Deredeo. Have a game set up for tomorrow night with my EC. Great opponent lined up so it should be fun.

I'm finding the whole list building aspect of 30k to be very frustrating... with the restrictions on types of HQs depending on point values, rights of war changing your FOC and all that. This is compounded by the fact that I don't have much in the way of any infantry painted up. Once I'm done with the next two models (Sicaran and Contemptor)... first thing on the studio desk will be a bunch of infantry.

Have fun.. do Tell!

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I like the white on the back. Not digging the white wall tires though.

Whoa Gits! I havnt checked in in a while and Ive got to say your painting has improved a lot! Not saying you were bad or anything but blimey! I need to start putting brush to paint!

 KingCracker wrote:
Whoa Gits! I havnt checked in in a while and Ive got to say your painting has improved a lot! Not saying you were bad or anything but blimey! I need to start putting brush to paint!

Do it

Such a EC move.

Definitely a much improved colour choice for those parts.

I think I'll have to agree with WM the white on the back works well but I think the white wall tires come across as one trying to much if ya know what I mean.

Though I think a bit of balancing in the front might be needed. with the white in the back. Maybe white pine striping in the front fender?

I like the retro look, EC commanders had to have a lot of bling to set them apart from the troops.

Careful with your whites... whites almost never are really white, they are off whites with shading and highlights in true white. If you just plop on plain white or near it as a base, then you end up looking like you used liquid paper on the model.

So - lesson for the day, never base white with white. only highlight white with white.

There are a few exceptions to that mind, but in general, yeah. Especially on small areas, especially when providing an extreme contrast... your white should be as nuanced and graded as your purple.

Very nice, the black did seem a little off there. Unlike many I like to look of the whitewalls. But perhaps they're more of a WS thing. "I hear you do strange things to your ships"

PS the biker, agree with WM, white wall tires a bit much lol

I think in general all your infantry and vehicles would benefit a lot from edge highlights... the white areas are so strong they are really drowning out the details everywhere else. I would suggest more restraint on the white, focus on markings with it, as opposed to entire sections or whatnot. Then edge the purple, and also edge or highlight the blacks to bring the details back out.

I'm with WM as well looks cool on the back but not sure about the tires.

Whitewalls are cool. End of.

White wall tires! Though I agree with Tom. Don't go full white...never go full white

Two points.

1. Sorry guys, I love the whitewalls. My only regret is that I don't have more vehicles with actual tires to put white-walls on.

2. The white. Sorry Tom, I kind of trolled you with the white. I knew you were going to say something & actually was surprised when you didn't lecture me on it when I first did it.

Serious question for you though... given the purple... which shade would you take the off-white?



Had an absolutely wonderful 30k game with my friend Lee tonight. Like Yorkright and I do in 40k, I shared my list with Lee ahead of time so he could choose an army that would be a good match for it (given I'm fielding every figure I have painted and he's got a lot to choose from). It was incredibly bloody, we tied the primary. He beat me by STW and one extra unit surviving the game... and it really came right down to the end. The Leviathan was a stud.

As usual, the bikes and and warlord got shot once, failed morale and ran off the table on turn 2. At some point in the future, I will be smashing them to bits with a hammer... but right now I still need them for points.

Whitewalls look pretty EC to me. Then again, my colour choices are always a bit suspect, so I'm not sure for how much my opinion counts

That whitewall! Suits the champions down to the ground.

Personally, I'd go with more of a bluish-white or a neutral gray for the off-white.

ECs are looking boss, though

(whitewalls are an... interesting... choice... right.... <.< )

I can't go wrong in agreeing with Ramos. Either bluish or greyish.

Expert view on white wall tyres
I would go blue-ish grey - space wolf-y - through to very pale. The blue notes should work well with the purple.

@gits, you doocher lol

I am not entirely sure, because you go from indigo to magenta, theoretically both a steel-blue base, or a bone/ochre base could work for the white and play off the purples. That being said, it is also possible, that because of the warm/cool presence already, the best course could be a neutral grey too.

I recommend next time you do your purple, take a nice big piece of plasticard and replicate the gradient range of the purple on it. That you can use that piece as a testbed to see how your scheme will react to different colors, and where for instance a certain tone of gold will work nicer with the violet and another shade with the indigo, and be aware of it when painting too. It's a good exercise for an army painter -

Little bit of EC action for you. Had a fantastic game with my friend Lee yesterday. He's got a beautiful Sons of Horus army. A real pleasure to play.





Things got going early... managed to take out a couple of vehicles and put at least a hull point on every one. In return the SoH were about to take out both my venator and my deredeo.


Combi-meltas on the terminators made a mess out of the deredeo.


There were burning vehicles everywhere...






The Leviathan accounted for itself well, playing a pivotal role in keeping a couple of nasty assault units busy center-table.


Abaddon who?


Let it never be said that solitary grunts aren't important. We tied on the the primary (table thirds) because each of us had managed to hide away a single scoring unit (i.e. sole surviving marine) where they couldn't be gotten to.


The Son's of Horus did end up winning but just barely... it was really close, right down to the wire. Great game!