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2012/08/20 23:59:02
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
I love this Titan because it was one of the originals before everyone got on the Titan bandwagon, however it's proportions are so far off it's almost comical. That being said, it is still an awesome titan. It has a lot of details on the inside too. Electronics and LED's.
I have had a chance to study this titan in detail and it is an amazing piece of work modeled it appears after the 28 mm scale Armourcast Warlord. I find no fault with it except for the size which stretches credulity. Grant me that the scale 28 mm represents a six foot tall figure sans armour and base. this titan is two meters tall 2000 mm which translates into 428 scale feet. Unfortunately too tall to be believable let alone playable. (IMHO)
There are fabulous details hidden under the carapace including maintenance access catwalks reminiscent of that which I had in mind.
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"It is easier to deceive people than it is to convince them that they have been deceived."
2012/08/21 12:19:14
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
In fairness I think the old skool Warlord titan above isn't that far off size wise for Tru-scale, the only thing that makes it look offsize is the warhound titan in its hand...
HA! got ya smartass! It not too often the Blackadder has to admit mistakes but theres a bigg'un in this post. I applied the 'vambraces' to the guns and lo' they are not long front to back as they should be. I could take the easy way out and say they were foreshortened in the image or the wide angle lens distorted the image but the flat out truth is I miscalculated and the photos revealed the discrepancy. Now I hope I have a viable solution with out having to rebuild this labor intense component "Spaced armour" might save me from a marathon overnight rebuild...............
Note, Had I not lengthened the barrels they would have been okay..................Just sayin'.
I was asked what the connectors were that I used on the arms:
I used variable angled electrical conduit elbows I had left over from rewiring an Italian bread line. The control panel electronics for this automated Roll maker called a 'Doge line' were more complex than the electronics and wiring on a DC 9 commercial jet but I digress; these elbows can be obtained in various diameter from 3/8 ths to one inch (or more, I never checked it out) from Grainger Industrial Supply.
I used the 1/2 version and they cost about $7.50 each. They are plastic/nylon, extremely durable and wonderfully high-tech looking. The ones I have were surplus from the job and going to be tossed so I grabbed a half dozen. I've been looking for something to use them on.
I found another source for these connectors BTW they are called, "Hubbell Swivellok multiposition elbows"
I was asked what the connectors were that I used on the arms:
I used variable angled electrical conduit elbows I had left over from rewiring an Italian bread line. The control panel electronics for this automated Roll maker called a 'Doge line' were more complex than the electronics and wiring on a DC 9 commercial jet but I digress; these elbows can be obtained in various diameter from 3/8 ths to one inch (or more, I never checked it out) from Grainger Industrial Supply.
I used the 1/2 version and they cost about $7.50 each. They are plastic/nylon, extremely durable and wonderfully high-tech looking. The ones I have were surplus from the job and going to be tossed so I grabbed a half dozen. I've been looking for something to use them on.
I found another source for these connectors BTW they are called, "Hubbell Swivellok multiposition elbows"
Hey, Black! I was hoping to pick your brain a bit: multiple times in this thread you've talked about the scaling of certain parts or assemblies of your titan (specifically from reference pics). How are you doing that exactly?
I have a project I'm tossing around: converting a valdor tank hunter from a russ sprue that I've got lying around, but all I have to go from are the FW photos. Any words of wisdom?
Thanks!
Rawson
The 104th Vostroyan Mechanized Rawson's Reboot Viktor von Domm: nope... can´t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
dsteingass: That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"
nerdfest09: Rawson speaks the truth!
2012/08/22 21:58:30
Subject: Re:Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
I have a photo editing program called Photo Impact Pro version 10. With it you can adjust the size of the image (in this case an image from the 'net).
I enter the scaling feature and adjust the scale by what I estimate the correct size will be by some known object in the image; i.e. say a bitz component usually in profile so I can hold the bitz to the screen to verify the complete image is to the same size (hopefully sometimes it takes a couple of tries to get the size correct) as the bitz appears.
Sometimes as with the guns I have to make allowances for the perspective (I used the eagle shaped gargoyle for the scale control. See circled item in attachment).
In this case I made the barrels a bit longer than the original because I felt I could always shorten them if needs be.
Then I measure the image off the screen to get the size. It's crude but it usually works.
Most editing programs have this feature I actually have ACDSee 14 which also can do this but I'm use to Photo Impact.
"It is easier to deceive people than it is to convince them that they have been deceived."
2012/08/23 20:23:48
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
There's an incredible amount of superfluous detail on the main guns/cannon/weapons to apply calling for a moratorium on the overall build but I have to see how much space will be required before I can continue so................... here is where it stands as of today.
I think they look different because there is a slight angle difference between them. They are, of course, fantastic, Black.....
You are waaaaay beyond crazy my friend -DSteingass
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he knows no pain...nor fear, he is a riveteer - Viktor Von Domm
We don't do generic, mainstream, normal, or anything of the sort! ^^ - Shrike
You build fething Titans Henry Ford style Max!! - DSteingass
2012/08/24 03:16:15
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
Looks Awesome BA, but your engineering mind makes me LOL sometimes. The rule of Cool is always the most important one
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2012/08/24 12:46:34
Subject: Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
You realize this is going to end up far better than the bols one right?! No bottle caps used on this baby! Guns are looking great now that they are all bulked out.
The_Blackadder wrote: I have a photo editing program called Photo Impact Pro version 10.
Thanks for the advice, Black! Us amatures appreciate the help I was afraid you would say something like that, though. There's certainly no hobby budget for a new program I'll have to figure out another way.
Keep up the great work!
Rawson
The 104th Vostroyan Mechanized Rawson's Reboot Viktor von Domm: nope... can´t do that for the sake of all lving creatures that dwell on earth....
dsteingass: That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"
nerdfest09: Rawson speaks the truth!
2012/08/28 01:08:24
Subject: Re:Blackadder's attempt to build the BOLS Warlord Titan
Everything is fan-freaking-tastic Black, but what really blows my mind is the speed with which you're able to work at while not sacrificing any detail, not to mention the extremely well though out construction. Phenomenal sir.
So there are a few (read very few) new images of the DS titan on the 'net. Considering that it costs virtually nothing to take hundreds of pictures anymore why only three of this monumental artistic effort but I appreciate all that I can find.
Geez can't someone take a decent picture of the back of this thing and try not to get a reflection in the image in the glass! Cripes how hard is that? Do I have to purchase a ticket to LA and take 'em myself??????????????
Anyway these are revealing pictures and expose new aspects of the work heretofore unseen and I am grateful for them in spite of my childish tantrum..................
Due to yet another stint in the hospital I needed to take a sabbatical in building this my attempted recreation but back again with new ideas and a firmer grasp on what is required I managed to reproduce that which is not actually documented in the spurious images posted of this beautiful titan. My main concern in not posting is I was afraid that the back panel of the engineering department looked too much like a "Police Call Box" from a 'Dr. Who' episode. Therefor I opted not to post until I had most of the complete back panel components in place. Bear in mind that these exterior components will be removable so that the interior components can be revealed and lock into place by friction and interlocking panels.
Yes well the nurses took a dim view of cleaning up the styrene sawdust and shavings and kicked me out after a week. So much for TLC but I did have quite some time to reflect on what shall be my future course of action.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Its amazing what the camera reveals as opposed to visual perception. The following image is not up to my usual standards and shall have to be reworked before the final painting. Not having seen this until I took the picture today I was not aware of the lopsided work I believe once I get back into my groove again I can offer better work..............
The_Blackadder wrote: Yes well the nurses took a dim view of cleaning up the styrene sawdust and shavings and kicked me out after a week. So much for TLC but I did have quite some time to reflect on what shall be my future course of action.
LMFAO
Its amazing what the camera reveals as opposed to visual perception. The following image is not up to my usual standards and shall have to be reworked before the final painting. Not having seen this until I took the picture today I was not aware of the lopsided work I believe once I get back into my groove again I can offer better work..............
In honesty I didnt think the unevenness was a bad thing, as warping and general wear and tear of a warmachine of this size, I'd expect panels no longer being as they were and the like.
The_Blackadder wrote: Yes well the nurses took a dim view of cleaning up the styrene sawdust and shavings and kicked me out after a week. So much for TLC but I did have quite some time to reflect on what shall be my future course of action.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Its amazing what the camera reveals as opposed to visual perception. The following image is not up to my usual standards and shall have to be reworked before the final painting. Not having seen this until I took the picture today I was not aware of the lopsided work I believe once I get back into my groove again I can offer better work..............
That panel on ebay will actually be used (2 of them in fact) on the backpack once I install the final detail.
I tried a different stance for these images to see how the joints would bear the weight. The upper torso weighs in at 880 grams/31 ounces/1.94 pounds without the guns now and the legs are bearing the weight with no problem. I may not need the friction devices I had planned for holding the position. OF course the upper torso may be closer to eight pounds before I am finished.
Applied secondary armour plating to the back removable panel today. I made some subtle changes in the back pack area to make it more aesthetically appealing bumping out the side panel layers about 2.5 mm.
The whole back panel including the 'Dr Who police call box panel' interlock together and are as yet held in place by only friction but when completed will have rare earth magnets to keep them tight to the frame.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Warning adult content!
Under NO circumstances should you try this at home
Saturday afternoon Blackadder has settled back for his triple Martini.......... it's too late to make a hobby store run and they won't have what I want anyway..............
What better time to try to cut a CotD wall piece in half
As you know the titan I am attempting to build liberally used CotD bitz for the fine detail..............
Well if I plan to complete this d-mned thing in my lifetime I'd better follow the example of those that have gone before.
The trick is to not allow the triple Martini to affect your judgement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now cutting a wall piece in half is no easy thing and I would have never attempted it without a bag on but here goes.
Of course my razor saws are as dull as butter knives but I managed to make an initial foray. The bit seems to be about 3mm thick and the blade is about 0.5 mm thick; not at all good odds hence the Martini.
The following is my initial progress:
Note the fuzzynees of the image, I'm in no condition to be taking pictures..........
I applaud the obvious (drunken?) skill required to do this, however, I would havebought extras of them and belt sanded them all......
You are waaaaay beyond crazy my friend -DSteingass
Yes, everything that changes the entire fething world is overrated..... - DSteingass
...yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose..Viktor Von Domm
...they put Space Marines in tin cans and drop them from orbit, I don't think fuel consumption or aerodynamics is a concern - DSteingass
I think once again my motormouth has brought me into deep... - Viktor Von Domm
he knows no pain...nor fear, he is a riveteer - Viktor Von Domm
We don't do generic, mainstream, normal, or anything of the sort! ^^ - Shrike
You build fething Titans Henry Ford style Max!! - DSteingass
loving this stuff and hoping to start scratch building some of my own stuff!
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