Quest for Perfection, Crimson fists & Helbrute

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**Dr H**

They look awesome Weety.

How do you do your wood? I will have a lot of wood to paint soon and your's is really nice and crisp.

**weetyskemian44**

Its a secret. But the mix contained grey, yellow and umber.

**Dr H**

weetyskemian44 wrote:
Its a secret. But the mix contained grey, yellow and umber.

Thanks Weety, I can work with that.

**weetyskemian44**

You cant go wrong with mixing colours with grey if you want them to be subtle colours Dr H.

For me painting is about colour and light and shade. I use black, white and all the grey inbetween help to define the miniature and then apply the pigment as if I where watercolouring over a black and white drawing. There are other ways of shading and I must explore these - apparently you can use a colours contrasting colour to shade it - I wonder if anyone remebers these - they use that technique http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/177816-Questing%20Knights%20Bretonnia.html

**Dr H**

I see. Cool. Thanks Weety.

Yeah, I've experimented with adding the contrasting colour to darken a colour, but it didn't really work that well at the time. More experiments needed.

I'm not short of grey paints though, Humbrol has quite an extensive range.

That's some nice colours there.

**weetyskemian44**

Yeah those knights are pretty psychedelic.

A better shot of the skaven leader

**Casey's Law**

Wonderful Skaven! Very characterful yet subtle paint jobs.

JB

Yeah, I really like those paintjobs.

I also like the minis. They remind me of a friend's fantasy army back when we started WH Fantasy (during 3rd edition). He had Skaven and I used Ral Partha High Elves and Sea Elves.

**weetyskemian44**

I saw some of those on ebay the other day - sea elves that is. I may bid one or two of them.

Work in progress pics are in - I'm not 100% sure what colours I'm doing them yet! Great models these.

**Casey's Law**

Lovely minis, I'm sure you'll do them justice!

**Dr H**

Nice blending/shading. I see how you get your models looking so good. Look forward to colours.

JB

Those are great models! Have fun!

**weetyskemian44**

Dr H yes you have rumbled my secret - I've known other painters to do this successfully - I think major tom does it sometimes - although he uses an airbrush to do it (grumble, mutter), and I just do it with a really good drybrush. Now I will work coloured pigments and washes into it and it will all end up nicely shaded.

going to get an airbrush someday - does anyone know do you need extraction for that? I don't want to suffocate us (very small flat).

**Briancj**

On a small scale, you can work safely in your flat without a dedicated fan-based-spray-booth. Take a cardboard box, cut off one side, that's your spray booth. Layer the bottom with old newspaper. Wear a 'paint' quality filtration mask (the particulate level that is created by airbrushing can be toxic, even if the paint itself is not). In the United States, this costs around $30 at our DIY stores.

A lamp on a swing arm is great to be able to aim into the box/booth, so you can see what you are painting.

--B.

**dsteingass**

meh...I airbrush inside all the time. Granted, its a large garage with ample ventillation, and I run a small fan to turbo-dry things anyway. Air-compressor noise is more of a worry than breathing it. Ideally paint should atomize so that the particles dry soon after impact with the model. So, you shouldn't have a cloud of paint anyways. If you use acrylics, there is little risk. Enamels or oils, now that is a different story.

**weetyskemian44**

Thanks for the info - I have a big skylight over my bath so I will spray in there and just wash the excess away with water maybe?

Going to drop some hints to the parents for xmass.

**Briancj**

Honestly, you don't need the bathoom. Just a cardboard box to contain what little overspray happens. I put mine on my worktable in my bedroom.

Others will tell you that you do not need a filtration mask. I ask that you buy one for 100% safety.

**Dr H**

weetyskemian44 wrote:
Dr H yes you have rumbled my secret - I've known other painters to do this successfully - I think major tom does it sometimes - although he uses an airbrush to do it (grumble, mutter), and I just do it with a really good drybrush. Now I will work coloured pigments and washes into it and it will all end up nicely shaded.

Nice work to do that with drybrushing.

I did a similar thing with my Wave Serpent to get the shading on the blue, but can't usually get it to work with the enamels.
Can't help you with the airbrush as I don't have one either...one day, when I have the money...

**inmygravenimage**

They're looking great weets! Did you get your care package BTW?

**Olly**

oh man, you have really done these old models justice, excellent stuff!

**Gitsplitta**

Man, I just love your work on that first model weets... really enthusiastic about how it'll turn out!

**weetyskemian44**

Graven - Yes it has arrived! I'm very excited about the contents but keeping it under my hat until they are assembled! Some really unusual stuff, I especially like the druid. Thanks!

The models are actually finished now but there is furniture in front of my light tent. I will get photos later when we shift it.

**inmygravenimage**

Grand, good to know, glad you likey!

**weetyskemian44**

His name is hengis or hengist the druid and he is from the forgotten isle of Albion. I may give him a golden sickle and rename him Getafix.

First photos of the chaos champions. I would like to have got more pics but old batteries have scuppered that. Later I will take more and there are some goblins as well!

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**Dr H**

Getafix would be cool.

Loving the colours. Especially the purple and the bone.

I know how you do it, but it still looks like witchcraft how you paint these models so well.

**weetyskemian44**

I've just scored a gang of urban street warriors from copplestone and some very old dark elves.

Here is that druid I was talking about - graven sent him along with some other amazing old things things to be revealed shortly

**Dysartes**

Is that the Dogs of War druid guy that came with the Giants of Albion? Wasn't in the actual Dogs of War book, but was one of the units added later in White Dwarf?

**weetyskemian44**

That's right, that's him.

It would be cool one day to put him in a woodland glade cutting mistletoe with his sickle (he is perfectly posed for it) and brewing magic potion.

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I got some pictures done.

These three goblins are a kill team - first the little one shoots you in the back of the knee, then the crazy looking one with the big rusty ball comes rushing out of the darkness and wacks you. Finally grandpa goblin serves the coup de grace and shanks you with his sticka. I call him grandpa because he is wearing slippers - he also has magic mushrooms in his belt!

More better pics of the chaos champions

Group shots of the dungeon horde

**dsteingass**

Looks like one helluva party!

**inmygravenimage**

You know what that party needs? A troll >