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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/11 15:15:53
Subject: Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Lord of the 12th Legion WIP
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I've seen a lot of good stuff from you over the last years, but this one is going to beat them all. Congratulations. Can't wait to see him finished.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/11 17:29:28
Subject: Re:Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Lord of the 12th Legion WIP
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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Cheers for the kind words, everyone!
The grey weather outside makes taking decent photographs almost impossible today, but I still want to share my progress on the first couple of armour plates with you, so we'll have to make do with pretty shoddy pictures for now, for which I apologise!
I have added a couple of extra steps to my regular (three-step) bronze recipe, in order to add some more tonal variety to the finished armour, and so far it seems to be working rather well, wouldn't you agree?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/11 19:30:36
Subject: Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Daemon Primarch Angron PIP
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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Nice. Can't wait to see the finished product.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/11 20:32:17
Subject: Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Daemon Primarch Angron PIP
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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I see the plucky Ultramarine has made good his escape. I have faith that he will be back for vengeance soon. Althought he might need a dreadnought with the way he was looking last.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/11 20:55:28
Subject: Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Daemon Primarch Angron PIP
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/12 03:33:51
Subject: Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Daemon Primarch Angron PIP
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Nevelon wrote:I see the plucky Ultramarine has made good his escape. I have faith that he will be back for vengeance soon. Althought he might need a dreadnought with the way he was looking last.
Nah, he won't need a dreadnought. He'll just say,
"Come back here and take what's comin' to ya. I'll bite yer legs off!"
@ KS: Angron looks awesome so far!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/12 05:46:12
Subject: Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Daemon Primarch Angron PIP
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Pious Palatine
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Heh. Very amusing.
KrautScientist, I just wanted to tell you that your amazing work was one of the reasons I decided to do a Khorne Deamonkin army as my next project.
Keep the amazing work coming.
EDC
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/12 11:46:16
Subject: Re:Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Daemon Primarch Angron PIP
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Death-Dealing Ultramarine Devastator
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Your angron looks amazing both the conversion and the paintjob  Love the darkened effect on the armor plates to separate them from the trim, you really nailed that one! Can't wait to see him finished
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/12 12:45:54
Subject: Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Daemon Primarch Angron PIP
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/12 13:23:31
Subject: Re:Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Lord of the 12th Legion WIP
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Omnipotent Lord of Change
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KrautScientist wrote:I have added a couple of extra steps to my regular (three-step) bronze recipe, in order to add some more tonal variety to the finished armour, and so far it seems to be working rather well, wouldn't you agree?
And how! Delectable bronze, really quite lovely. Have you shared this three-step recipe before?
- Salvage
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/12 13:34:18
Subject: Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Daemon Primarch Angron PIP
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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant
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The armour looks really ornate and almost ancient, perfect for a Primarch in the current age. Lovely work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/12 14:10:46
Subject: Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Daemon Primarch Angron PIP
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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Cheers, guys!
@ Boss Salvage: Haha, yeah, half a dozen times or so
The standard recipe goes like this:
- basecoat with Vallejo Tinny Tin
- wash with Army Painter Strong Tone
- drybrush with GW Dwarf Bronze
Now for Angron's armour, the recipe was supplemented with a few additional steps and became:
- basecoat with Vallejo Tinny Tin
- wash with a mix of Army Painter Strong Tone and Vallejo Smokey Ink (to create even deeper shadows)
- drybrush with GW Dwarf Bronze
- drybrush with a 2:1 mix of GW Dwarf Bronze and GW Mithril Silver
- drybrush very lightly with GW Mithril Silver
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/14 01:00:49
Subject: Re:Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Daemon Primarch Angron PIP
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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So here's another round of updates: All of the armour plates and trophies on the belt are now in place. There's also something that I need your help with, but we'll be getting to that in a minute. First, pictures:
So here's the thing I would love to hear your feedback on: I am not perfectly sure about those kneepads. They always seemed like a no-brainer during the conversion process, adding some additional bulk to the model and further differentiating it from the stock Bloodthirster, but now it seems to me like they actually make the model look slightly too clunky:
So what do you think -- should I keep them or lose them (they are just tacked in place for now)?
As always, your input is much appreciated!
In the meantime, I have finally managed to paint that unfortunate Ultramarine:
Aw, man, look at him, all clean and pristine -- alas, it was not to last...
And here's a closer look at the finished Astartes:
I also tried my best to take pictures of the gory parts:
As always, let me know what you think!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/14 01:13:56
Subject: Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Daemon Primarch Angron PIP
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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Incredible work. Can't wait to see the base with the Marines bottom half on it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/14 01:18:24
Subject: Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Daemon Primarch Angron PIP
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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I think part of what is making them 'clunky' is that there's nothing on the model indicating how they're attached. That's an issue that gets run into a lot with these models- there's no connectivity bits, and so things look, well, tacked on or slapped in place. If you were to have some scarred flesh between them and the legs, or straps going around behind the knees, or bolts showing them attached otherwise, they'd not look as clunky. But, of course, that would mean doing a little sanding and modelling , which would screw up the paint job on the knees.
I doubt you'll do that, which is a bit of a pity, since I think, like you said, that the knee armour does add a lot of extra distinction, and does a lot to make him more grand and have more presence here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/14 09:01:36
Subject: Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Daemon Primarch Angron PIP
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Looking awesome man. I actually feel like the knee plates would work better as part of the shoulder guards, covering the 'armpit' space between the pauldron and the breastplate. Not sure if his face would get in the way though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/14 14:23:12
Subject: Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Daemon Primarch Angron PIP
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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If you feel okay with adding straps or something to indicate them being held in place, I think they'd look great. But now that you mention them as is, I can't stop noticing how dorky they seem to be just having to appearance of being just there. Pity too because the knee pads themselves are quite nice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/14 14:39:09
Subject: Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Daemon Primarch Angron PIP
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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I think they look cool, but have to agree about the lack of straps. While “because demon” is a valid excuse for why they are stuck there, the fact that the thigh plates look to have straps undermine that.
I do like their inclusion though. He’s not just a demon made from warp stuff. He is an ascended from a primearch, to whom armor was a part of his identity.
You could go either way and make it work.
I was going to comment on the lack of a highlight color, but the Ultramarine does a very good job there. Helps offset the otherwise two tone model. The axe might also do that once it gets done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/14 15:48:00
Subject: Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Daemon Primarch Angron PIP
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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I disagree with many here. The Armor itself could be fused to the body. Something that has been done many times in the Warhammer universe. Though I get their points about it not looking attached.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/14 15:59:36
Subject: Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Daemon Primarch Angron PIP
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Personally I feel they look wrong on the knee when they'd look far better further down on the shin just below the knee.
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"But me no buts! Our comrades get hurt. Our friends die. Falkenburg is a knight who swore an oath to serve the church and to defend the weak. He'd be the first to tell you to stop puling and start planning. Because what we are doing-at risk to ourselves-is what we have sworn to do. The West relies on us. It is a risk we take with pride. It is an oath we honour. Even when some soft southern burgher mutters about us, we know the reason he sleeps soft and comfortable, why his wife is able to complain about the price of cabbages as her most serious problem and why his children dare to throw dung and yell "Knot" when we pass. It's because we are what we are. For all our faults we stand for law and light.
Von Gherens This Rough Magic Lackey, Flint & Freer
Mekagorkalicious -Monkeytroll
2017 Model Count-71
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/14 17:06:48
Subject: Re:Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Daemon Primarch Angron PIP
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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Thanks for the well-considered feedback, everyone! I agree that some straps would have made the kneepads seem more plausible, but seeing how they always seemed like an optional part of the model for me, to be added or left regarding whichever looked better, creating straps and then maybe not having anything to add to them would have been a bit of a gamble -- and then I'm just a lazy bum like that. I am not really sure the presence of straps would change anything about the clunkiness, however, because it wouldn't really change anything about the shape. And just because something's plausible doesn't mean it cannot kill the flow of a model But to be honest, I am slowly growing used to the kneepads as is -- haven't entirely made my mind up yet, though, so I guess they'll stay tacked in place like that. I will say that I like the way there's a bit of Angron's bare skin showing between his pauldrons and breastplate, though: I think that's something that's really important for the contrast and colour balance on the model, so that area will definitely stay that way. So anyway, with the Ultramarine out of the way, there was really no excuse to put off painting the axe any longer, so that's what I did today. Which means that, apart from some highlights and minor cleanup work, the model itself is just about finished now: As for the axe itself, the strangely organic shape of the blade would have made painting it in simple metals seem like a bit of a cheap cop-out, so I went for something partially organic and disturbing, trying to duplicate the look of ElDiablo's/Midian's excellent Bloodthirster axe: As you can see, I also added some blood to the axe, mostly because it made sense, what with Angron clearly just having cut apart an Astartes... I believe that'll be it for blood effects on the model, though. There might be some more blood on the base... So yeah, I do have to say that I am actually really, really happy with this guy -- in case you hadn't noticed So while you guys are probably tired of seeing the model, I would of course love to hear your feedback! As always, let me know what you think!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/14 19:51:17
Subject: Re:Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Daemon Primarch Angron painted!
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Mysterious Techpriest
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Sorry to be a bit of a dick, but doesnt daemon prince angron weild a bigass sword? Regardless, hes looks magnificent, especially the head and the wires. Basically identical to that one artwork (you know the one)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/14 19:55:13
Subject: Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Daemon Primarch Angron painted!
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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"But me no buts! Our comrades get hurt. Our friends die. Falkenburg is a knight who swore an oath to serve the church and to defend the weak. He'd be the first to tell you to stop puling and start planning. Because what we are doing-at risk to ourselves-is what we have sworn to do. The West relies on us. It is a risk we take with pride. It is an oath we honour. Even when some soft southern burgher mutters about us, we know the reason he sleeps soft and comfortable, why his wife is able to complain about the price of cabbages as her most serious problem and why his children dare to throw dung and yell "Knot" when we pass. It's because we are what we are. For all our faults we stand for law and light.
Von Gherens This Rough Magic Lackey, Flint & Freer
Mekagorkalicious -Monkeytroll
2017 Model Count-71
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/14 22:34:45
Subject: Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Daemon Primarch Angron painted!
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Stalwart Space Marine
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Exceptional work mate, you've really captured the essence of Angron
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/14 22:54:46
Subject: Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Daemon Primarch Angron painted!
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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Thanks a lot, guys! I really appreciate it!
@ LeCacty: No problem, mate! Here's my reasoning behind the axe:
It's true that, canonically, Daemon Angron wields the Black Sword, a weapon forged for him during the Heresy by Vel Kheredar. It's the weapon that appears on his ancient Epic model, and it also appear in the recent fluff.
BUT the one illustration of Daemon Primarch Angron (by Alex Boyd) shows him with what looks like a daemonic version of the axe Angron has in most of the old Heresy artwork by Wayne England (and also in the first illustration of Angron by John Blanche), with the characteristic eagle wing behind the blade. And because I love the old JB/ Wayne England art and also wanted to base my conversion on the aforementioned Alex Boyd piece, an axe it was. Well, that and that fact that I just couldn't think of a decent way to come up with a suitably awesome and unique sword -- Biohazard is currently doing really well on that account, though.
Oh, and the Black Blade actually gets shattered in "The Emperor's Gift", so all bets are off anyway
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/15 00:16:17
Subject: Re:Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Daemon Primarch Angron painted!
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Mysterious Techpriest
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I think that may have actually been the artwork I mentioned. I never noticed the axe in the back though! And yes, Biohazard is doing fabulousy, that's what actually sparked my curiosity with your's and his axe!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/15 04:39:00
Subject: Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Daemon Primarch Angron painted!
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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You know what would be awesome for a Khornate sword, sometime? A completely plain blade. The most basic of basic cruciform swords. But a solid, otherworldly red. (so paint it in a completely different style to the rest of the model)
Because Khorne is the god of battle and war as well as slaughter and blood and skulls, and if you're showing the purest essence of war and combat wouldn't be something covered in fangs and eyeballs, but rather an incredibly archetypical sword that conveys, well, the 'essence' of 'sword'.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/15 06:02:53
Subject: Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Daemon Primarch Angron painted!
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Pious Palatine
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Angron is looking amazing. I think the point had been decided but I like the knee/shin pads, the armour makes him stand out from other Blood Thirsters.
EDC
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/15 07:18:04
Subject: Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Daemon Primarch Angron painted!
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Beautiful work, lots of great detail, and that skin tone is cool.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/15 13:31:11
Subject: Khorne's Eternal Hunt - The World Eaters' 4th assault company: Daemon Primarch Angron PIP
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Omnipotent Lord of Change
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KrautScientist wrote:@ Boss Salvage: Haha, yeah, half a dozen times or so
The standard recipe goes like this:
- basecoat with Vallejo Tinny Tin
- wash with Army Painter Strong Tone
- drybrush with GW Dwarf Bronze
I figured  Thanks for sharing this again though, great simple recipe
Loving the Angron progress, and the axe in particular. Annnnnd +1 to axe > black sword
- Salvage
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