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So today I found out Wraitknights have a 3+ armour. Sure my Exorcists spent the majority of the game shooting missiles at it but the fact that Celestine took the last wound from it on the last turn was so good.

I had a similar revelation about the wraith knight a couple of weeks back, my opponent at the time then spent the rest of the game running away from celestine!

 scrunty wrote:
I had a similar revelation about the wraith knight a couple of weeks back, my opponent at the time then spent the rest of the game running away from celestine!

I've just got images of this giant running and scrabbling to get away from this chick charging full pelt after it waving a sword above her head....

Exactly what it felt like. It was great, it massively tied up the wraithknight as it used most of its fire power trying to kill her. Even when it eventually did it still wouldn't go next to the marker I left to show where she had karked it!

 Ovion wrote:

 scrunty wrote:
I had a similar revelation about the wraith knight a couple of weeks back, my opponent at the time then spent the rest of the game running away from celestine!

I've just got images of this giant running and scrabbling to get away from this chick charging full pelt after it waving a sword above her head....

Celestine is the baddest dude in 40k. There is no one I have ever allowed to get in harms way the way I throw Celestine into the fray. I used her my last game to shut down a death company squad completely. They kept killing her, and she kept resurrecting and charging them again, taking small chunks out of it every time.

So what makes us believe that the Punishers on the new terrain kits will be 'emplaced weapons' rather that gun emplacements?

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 evildrcheese wrote:
So what makes us believe that the Punishers on the new terrain kits will be 'emplaced weapons' rather that gun emplacements?

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They'll be gun emplacements but that doesn't really matter.

Fair enough I was getting the vibe that we'd be getting the rending on them with the vets but couldn't quite see the conection. Still the Punishers will be awesome, I'm certainly picking up these kits.

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 evildrcheese wrote:
Fair enough I was getting the vibe that we'd be getting the rending on them with the vets but couldn't quite see the conection. Still the Punishers will be awesome, I'm certainly picking up these kits.

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Both emplaced guns and gun emplacements can rend.

I just wanted to add about my recent battle. Celestine was a beast. Best character I've ever played. In one battle her squad took out an annhialation barge, a squad of immortals and the necron lord that was with them. Granted, I had luck on my side, but still....dang.
Also, I'll throw a shout out to my hospitilar. I know I get flack for using a command squad with 3 heavy bolters, but that feel no pain rule for my heavy weapons came in handy. Perhaps not the most efficient way to do it, but it's fun.

 pretre wrote:

 evildrcheese wrote:
Fair enough I was getting the vibe that we'd be getting the rending on them with the vets but couldn't quite see the conection. Still the Punishers will be awesome, I'm certainly picking up these kits.

D

Both emplaced guns and gun emplacements can rend.

Wow. Needless to say "Boom!".

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Yaknow, don't count on shenanigans with retributers, if the guns are automated like the tau's, that option will go out the window.

 BoomWolf wrote:
Yaknow, don't count on shenanigans with retributers, if the guns are automated like the tau's, that option will go out the window.

They're fortifications though, which means BS2 auto, or someone to fire them, like every other fortification.

I'm actually looking forward to this - one of the few guard things I liked was the Heavy 20 gatling cannon, and now I don't need the ugly old Leman Russ to get it.

 BoomWolf wrote:
Yaknow, don't count on shenanigans with retributers, if the guns are automated like the tau's, that option will go out the window.

Every other fort doesn't work like that though.

Yeah, these new models cannot come quickly enough. I just played necron air force this weekend at a tournament and got tabled. TABLED! (3 doom scythes and 4 night scythes).

I did not feel outplayed, just out cheesed. However, the dice gods were against me. I had Celestine and her squad 2 inches away from ruins that would have completely blocked LOS from all his fliers AND was his objective. I went to move through cover.... snake eyes. I went to run, one again. So, here I am with my sisters out in the open when his entire air force converged on them. Needless to say.... it was bloody.

I was about to start asking what allies to take in order to get more AA (besides the Avenger which is not always allowed). I was leaning towards Khan, a squad of 5 bikes, and a storm talon. Escort and outflank the whole unit of White Scars and call it a day.

Guard is the easy answer.

What a shock - looking at the GW site no SOB Appocalypse formations :(

 Mr Morden wrote:
What a shock - looking at the GW site no SOB Appocalypse formations :(

In some ways, I don't mind this, as really - are they suited to the massive engagements involved in apoc?
If they were to take part in it, they'd be supporting / have support from, Imperial Guard / Space Marines / Inquisition / etc.

But then, for Sisters (and Tau), the new Fortifications do seem pretty amazing, 'specially if it is 2x Heavy 20, Str5 guns!

Has anywhere leaked/confirmed the new fortification rules? I know there is some 40k approved version... but my brain is having a really hard time believing a heavy 20 gun is it...

 Mr Morden wrote:
What a shock - looking at the GW site no SOB Appocalypse formations :(

I can't say that surprises me, given the metal models and the small capacity for them to be bundled. I am hoping for formations/stratagems in the book and cards though.

Got about 4500 points of Sisters now to Apoc up. ;3

quiestdeus wrote:
Has anywhere leaked/confirmed the new fortification rules? I know there is some 40k approved version... but my brain is having a really hard time believing a heavy 20 gun is it...

not yet.

quiestdeus wrote:
Has anywhere leaked/confirmed the new fortification rules? I know there is some 40k approved version... but my brain is having a really hard time believing a heavy 20 gun is it...

The Punisher Gatling Cannon can be found in the Imperial Guard Codex, mounted on the Leman Russ Punisher, at 180pts.
The gun itself, is 24", Str5, AP-, Heavy 20.

It's one of the few Imperial Guard things I like, and now I don't have to use Guard to have it

Right but we want to know the points and rules for the forts themselves.

My friend who has never played sisters of battle got my list and my tactical notes from me while he visited. He's got a month off or something so he's touring his friends. Really good painter and modeler.

He's immediately buying sisters of Battle and very excited about the idea. Should be interesting to get reports back since he plays in the JAPAN meta.

Interesting thing about the Japan meta: they REALLY like mechanized lists apparently. a pair of Storm Ravens is common. 6 Razorbacks is still seeing use. Kinda interesting. The list goes on. thought that was an interesting bit of insight.

Honestly, I'm finding my tanks live longer these days than before. Then again, my meta is people who think TLLC/fist dreads sitting back sniping is good, and TFG types who bring triple helturkey/coteaz + stormraven lists against the first sort, so...

But against both, AV13 can survive the game if I don't let it get charged. I honestly think the internet standard of vehicles is only true about weak transports like chimerae and metal bawxes, which really do feel like they need to be spammed to work, and silly things like shooty dreads, or lone podding dreads, which would not have worked in 5th either.

Yeah, mass av13 is pretty damn decent.


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On a separate note, I am trying to dig up some affordable dozer blades (big ones) to convert my vehicles to repressors. Any ideas? I'm thinking I may have to raid a toy store for bulldozers, but would like to see if anyone has a better plan.

The ones in my gallery on my home made repressors are also homemade using styrene sheet. I did a quick tutorial on my p&m blog a while back about how to make them. Search for "venatores" on the p&m blog forum. They were pretty simple to do. I would link, but posting from my phone.

Hmm. I remember seeing your thread but hadn't remembered the dozer blade thing. I'll have to see if I can work something up.

 Mr Morden wrote:
What a shock - looking at the GW site no SOB Appocalypse formations :(

Maybe there are rules for SoB formations, but they just don't bundle them as they literally don't have the models for it?

We can but hope...........