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could I have my stuff from the first KS shipped with stuff from this one (knowing full well I'll be waiting for it a long time, but with KoW, SW, Reaper, Dreadball, DFG... you get it ) to save on shipping?

Sure that can be arranged. I still have to work out the details with Game Salute but what I think we're going to do is convert your pledge amount into store credit for their online store, so we can take care of shipping easier. Then you can just go and order what you want when you want.

What are the time scales on all of this? For us unfortunates that didn't/couldn't/wouldn't participate in the kickstarter, when do you anticipate all of this being available for general purchase?

 Necros wrote:
Sure that can be arranged. I still have to work out the details with Game Salute but what I think we're going to do is convert your pledge amount into store credit for their online store, so we can take care of shipping easier. Then you can just go and order what you want when you want.

Sounds good, but won't that be hell with the inclusion of stretch goal stuff etc? Anyway, good to hear ,thanks!

For regular retail I'm saying "some time in October" We'll get the orders for Kickstarters out of the way first. I'd like to have them available for retail right when we start the next campaign. Just gotta get the boxed ordered and then packed up at this point.


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Also .. since time is ticking away and we still haven't finished the box art files to send to the printers (another day or 2 ...) it's looking like the boxed-up starter sets will be done in October now as it will take a couple of weeks to print everything. So I think what we're going to do is offer everyone the option to get just the figures unboxed, and we can send them now. Well right now we have the Clancy Gang and Bloodwolf Tribe figures, the Vigilance Committee and Bandidos Mexicanos should be arriving next week.

Anyway, just thought that would be a better option for people that don't want to wait any longer. I want to try and keep everyone happy and not delay the process if you don't care about a cardboard box

If you go this route though, we won't have the character cards to send so you could download them as a PDF kind of like the blank cards I have on the site now, or if you want the nice glossy printed cards you'll have to wait. Just doing this for the folks that just want the minis and want them now.

I'll do a new update on the KS page later today with more info once I get a date from Iron Wind for the last batch of figures.

I finally finished the box art files .. now we just gotta send em off to the printers. Here’s the cover photos for all 4 gangs plus the Desperados

That box art looks awesome man.

Looks great!

Little update this morning, just got some WIP shots of the Gatling Gun for Wilde's Rangers. It's a 3D render, went 3D on this one so we could make it accurate-er looking. Not sure yet at this point but we might do it in resin instead of metal in the end.

This is a WIP so there's still more details to add and stuff

That's awesome!

thanks .. I wasn't expecting it, we were just chatting about maybe doing the gun as a 3D model and then I guess he dove right in. This was by Bob Naismith. Will probably come on a 60mm base maybe with some extra bitz like barrels of gunpowder and extra ammo and stuff, if there will be room for it.

Cooking up the special rules for it now. Thinking it will be treated like a terrain piece so it will provide cover, and shooting it will work like an explosive since it sprays bullets all over the place, so it will hit every model within d6" of it's target. will be weaker than dynamite, but have a much longer range. Or maybe have it where it can hit D6 models, then you roll to hit each one separately. But I want it to be able to hit good guys and bad guys, since it's supposed to be inaccurate.

Give it a CHANCE to hit everything in the area. 4" circle, say 50/50 chance of being hit.

They were highly inaccurate, but the hail of bullets would eventually hit something.

Could give it a number of shots per turn, to represent the skill of the man cranking it, the possibility of it jamming, or even "ammo" left in the gun before a reload.

the chain gun was horribly unreliable in American wars, so you might want to give it a chance of jamming on a roll of a 1.

yeah I would like it to jam too. How about like this..

Pick your target, roll 1D6 so the gun can hit everyone within D6" of the target. Then for each person you roll to hit like normal. If you roll all 1's, the gun jams and you can't shoot anyone else with it. So someone with a ranged combat of 1 only gets to roll 1 D6 to hit, so they have a bigger chance to make it jam. If their RC is higher you get to roll more dice, so there's less of a chance for it to jam. But, since the gang is going to be more hennchmen, most will have lower RC's.

When it jams I was thinking anyone can unjam it, they just have to walk up to it and try to fix it instead of attacking someone, and make an intellect roll of 4+. For every new jam, you need to get 1 more successful d6 on the int roll. So if it jammed 3 times, you'll need to roll 3 4+'s in your int roll. if it jams a lot, it could break beyond repair unless someone really smart tries to fix it.

Got an updated pic of the Gatling gun today, lots more detail here it is

now this is cool. Good job by the creator!

Thanks, it was done by Bob Naismith. He sculpted the Bloodwolf Tribe figures. I'll have him do the Rangers too when the time comes

Just finished the first set of PDF character cards for the Clancy Gang. The starter sets will come with nice glossy printed cards, but if you lose them or just want to check out the gang's stats and stuff, you can use the cards in the PDF

http://blackwatergulch.com/blog/2012/09/clancy-gang-character-cards/

Excellent!

Your next Kickstarter cannot get here soon enough...

Got a preview of a couple of new characters from the artist today, Heath Foley. Here are Mr. Foo, leader of the Secret Fist and Chang, his right hand man and an infamous gunslinger. The Secret Fist is one of the new gangs that will be featured in our next Kickstarter campaign that we’ll be launching later this month. They are an Asian themed gang based on Chinese railroad workers, but with our own spin to make them look like a gang that could take on any of the other gangs in Blackwater Gulch.



More to come!

Looks good. Want to see Dr. Hoo!

Thanks .. but as usual I posted it too early... just got the rest of the gang! So from left to right we have Chang the Gunslinger, Dr. Hoo, Mr. Foo the gang leader and also a wrassler, followed by henchmen Jen Choi and Fu Tang. If it looks too small you should be able to click it for a high res version

Just got the colorized artwork for the Secret Fist. Looking even better now! You can click the image for a large version.



I’ve seen some tidbits from the other artists working on the other new gangs. I’ll share those other gang pics once I have something good to show off

And here they are again, you can click to enlarge Along with the gang bio. I'll be getting the artwork for the other 3 new gangs over the next week or so and I'll post them as soon as I get them



The Blackwater Lines Railroad employed many Chinese and Asian workers and laborers, but once the railroad was finished, many were simply laid off with no place to go. Some left town, others stayed but found it hard to get by on their own in a town full of people who didn’t understand their language or culture. Soon after, many Asians banded together to form the Secret Fist and now run the Oriental Quarter to protect other citizens of their kind.

The Secret Fist is lead by Mr. Foo, a massive man who operates a small pig farm just on the edge of town. His livestock are often used to hide evidence, they’ll eat anything or anyone for the right price. Chang is his right hand man, an adept gunsligner who’s sixguns never miss their mark. His old friend, Dr. Hoo, runs a small herbalist shop in town, and secretly supplies opiates to the more well-to-do in town. The exotic beauty Jen Choi and her cousin Fu Tang round out the Secret Fist as henchmen, running odd jobs around town and always ready to back up their friends in a fight.

The Secret Fist is a new gang for Blackwater Gulch. They will be featured in our upcoming Kickstarter campaign in couple of weeks.

We run a Western miniature campaign at our local gaming store. A great way to introduce more people into the hobby!

Will definitely get the Chinese gang - even though I personally think several of the characters looks way out of place (more like three Japanese Manga/Anime-ish characters - and only two that is even vaguely Chinese).

No Kung Fu references, no Mandarin collars, No Dragons, no Chinese blades...

A shame really.

This is just the first 5, plenty more to unlock as the campaign goes There is a dragon though, on the girl's dress.

One of the other characters we unlock later will be more samauri looking, he'll have a katana and wakizashi instead of a cavalry saber and bowie knife, that sort of thing. This gang will be more of a mix of several different asian themes, not just Chinese.

Still (even more) odd.

Why on earth would someone want to add Samurai vibes to a Chinese railroad worker gang?
There were extremely few Japanese in the states at that time (and certainly no "Samurai") - and any Japanese would rather be found dead than around Chinese (and vise versa).
The only thing missing would then be true fantasy creatures like "Ninja"...
Moronic.

As stupid as if you had 15th century South American: Azteks, Inca and Maya "indians" among the BloodWolf tribe...
Or Tuaregs, Zulu warriors in a Afro-American gang - led by a Pharao ("Hey, they are from the same continent - let us mix and match nationalities and time periods to spice them up!").
Borderline racist, and not Wild West at all.

Why not just make them Chinese instead of "Asian":

The feth you on about, the middle guy is totally mister Wu, now stop it or you'll get fed to his pigs!

I have no problems with Wu/Foo (and hopefully will not have to meet his pigs).
Also, I like Dr. Hoo (trying to grow a beard like him myself) and I can live with the Ronin hat (with is kinda cool - I've got one myself) on Chang.

It's the "samauri" (sic!) vibes - and the uncalled-for "ninja shuriken" on chinese gangers - that is bothering me.
Why the urge to ruin a perfecly good themed Wild West gang by adding, I quote: "a katana and wakizashi" and similar stuff?

Remember in the old west, attitudes being what they were

anybody in the least Asian would have been labled a heathen chinese (well worse probably) and discriminated against accordingy

ending up in the same ghetto part of town (or more likely tented camp). If that Japanese or Korean or whoever had skills usefull to the gang they would be used (if they didn't end up dead)