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Good to hear there are others enjoying it. I'd like to give it another try (and will for sure pick up some fliers), I was just a bit disappointed with my first try

I have to say that I did not expect something special for the game

it is an Age of Sail style ship game, I did not expect to have devestating salvos or very fast gameplay, (this is not X-Wing) but more of a Master & Commander or Hornblower themed experience

Hey if push comes to shove we can make Man o War profiles for Armada ships

Man, the new Ratkin sure are calling me. I'm sorely tempted to go all in on them. Anyone have experience with them mechanically? Fun army to play?

Halflings with handguns from last nights Blackjack Legacy stream.

those heads look weird for some reason, too large? or are they digitally maniputlated onto the bodies (I know the whole thing is a render, but they look a bit sharper focused than the rest of the image, layering in the software?)

Halflings looks great. I like that hat.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Man, the new Ratkin sure are calling me. I'm sorely tempted to go all in on them. Anyone have experience with them mechanically? Fun army to play?

Ratkin are a great army, and I too have been tempted to replace my old WHFB Skaven with all this new Mantic. I'm happy to help shop lists and whatnot if you'd like to make a post down in the Mantic part of this forum / message me, but in the meantime here's where Dash28 reviews the individual units, which will help get a sense for what's avoidable / good / great in 3E: https://dash28.org/2020/08/14/kings-of-war-3rd-edition-ratkin-tier-review/

 Boss Salvage wrote:

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
Man, the new Ratkin sure are calling me. I'm sorely tempted to go all in on them. Anyone have experience with them mechanically? Fun army to play?

Ratkin are a great army, and I too have been tempted to replace my old WHFB Skaven with all this new Mantic. I'm happy to help shop lists and whatnot if you'd like to make a post down in the Mantic part of this forum / message me, but in the meantime here's where Dash28 reviews the individual units, which will help get a sense for what's avoidable / good / great in 3E: https://dash28.org/2020/08/14/kings-of-war-3rd-edition-ratkin-tier-review/

I have an older WHFB Skaven army too, but I just want to really support Mantic when they make models I like. I gladly bought a mountain of Northern Alliance because they clicked for me, and the new Ratkin are doing it for me as well.

Thanks for the link, and i'll reach out soon.

They have childrens' faces and old men haircuts.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
They have childrens' faces and old men haircuts.

Good point. Regardless of what they look like to humans, they are adults of their species. And at least in Tolkien's works live on average twenty years longer than humans.

Perhaps when they are released I'll be able to get some from a sprue seller like I did for the WGA Halflings. Using them for RPG-like skirmishes, so I don't need many, and really, the five from the WGA is enough. I just like variety.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
They have childrens' faces and old men haircuts.

Hey, flip that around and you have... me!

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I like these Mantic Lizardmen more and more, despite the (or maybe because of?) the lack of GW Mayintec shtick.

Too bad I already have way too many WIPs going on.

Thanks for reposting these! I'm pumped for the scorchwings, it's been real hard finding flying fire birds that aren't pterodactyls or gigantic centerpiece phoenixes

Those look excellent, and normally I would be itching to preorder, but the wife and I have hobby/painting sorted for Mantic 2021. We pulled the trigger on a LOT of the gorgeous new Ratkin, and still need to paint 160 Clansmen for my Northern Alliance.

Glad to see the air elements but no idea how to paint air? Maybe they will do translucent versions.

 Tamereth wrote:
Glad to see the air elements but no idea how to paint air? Maybe they will do translucent versions.

Contrast Paint Apothecary White should do nicely. It isn't fancy, and might read more "Cloud Elemental", but it would work.

Or paint them in dust colors, like a desert whirlwind.

really like what they have done with die Scourchwing
already feared we just see a mini-phoenix or flying lizard with flames but this one looks great

How would you prime them when you use Apothecary White? Grey? White? Cream? Curious...

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
How would you prime them when you use Apothecary White? Grey? White? Cream? Curious...

I Don't prime (Shoot me I know), but I brush undercoat models I want to use apothecary white on with Corax white. It lets the apothecary white do it's job with the light grey shadowing.

I always use a Krylon Max that is a dead-ringer for the Contrast off-white primer. The Apothecary White always looks excellent over it, and just a touch warmer.

I’ve always liked Mantic stuff in general, have got quite a lot of it through the years.
But I must say these Lizards really are top notch.

Dunno...they're good looking at first sight, but there's something bothering me.

I think it's the general design. It's stuck between their history of being clearly "not GW lizardmen" with the original GW primitive setting and the will of Mantic Games to do something more distinctive, like the fire-based salamanders.

When you look at the scorchwing then the more "dinosaur like" mounts, that is exactly the embodiment of that IMHO.

Also, they really look bulky on the renders. I know, you will answer "multibases" instantly, but still...feels like a bigger scale creep that's not adapted to base-to-base units. The more I see new releases, the more I wonder if they're intended at all to be faithful to the "normal numbers" of miniatures a unit should have depending of its category.

Sometimes, I actually wonder what Mantic Games is trying to do with KoW miniature design on long term.

Sarouan wrote:
Sometimes, I actually wonder what Mantic Games is trying to do with KoW miniature design on long term.

Honestly; I think that Mantic's aim is to get ranges filled out with limited means. I doubt that there is a clear long term aesthetic consideration.

more previews

The phoenixes look very useful.

I question the tactical wisdom of not being able to open your own mouth during combat.

 Esmer wrote:
I question the tactical wisdom of not being able to open your own mouth during combat.

It's simply to prevent you from accidentally biting your own tongue off mid-combat.

 Esmer wrote:
I question the tactical wisdom of not being able to open your own mouth during combat.

Sometimes I wish that was the default digital standard on social media. Maybe the big guy is a chatterbox or gossiper.