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They arent reopening it for DS, no idea about KoW though.

I am getting quite excited for the release. Spent today looking at all the stuff I pledged for, it comes to something like 99 miniatures, 3 sets of tiles, 3D furniture and doors, full game with three expansions, all for $210!

 Da Boss wrote:
I am getting quite excited for the release. Spent today looking at all the stuff I pledged for, it comes to something like 99 miniatures, 3 sets of tiles, 3D furniture and doors, full game with three expansions, all for $210!

Me too!

Also for KoW. Wife and I went through everything we had ordered and totalled the points values...

...17, 480 points.

Open day seminar 1 from Chilling Wargamers

Good video, even if it was a bit long.

TLDR

We heard you and we're implementing changes.
Quality over quantity.
Plastic for troops and vehicles.
Restic only for oversized stuff. Yes, we used too much restic for small stuff in Dreadball, and won't be doing that again.
Metal or Resin for characters, limited ed, or small run figs.
Keeping Kickstarters down to two a year.
Warpath, only when it's ready. Not going to rush it.
To better support brick and motar and online dealers, retailer exclusive items planned in the future,

Mantic admits dropping the ball with Dreadball Extreme's release. Sites growing pains and new staff not being fully indoctrinated into what they were expected to do.

Rest of 2015 dedicated to Dungeon Saga and Kings of War 2.

Dungeon Saga Campaigns will tie directly into KoW fluff.
Deadzone fluff will tie directly into Warpath.

Deadzone KS1 backers will recieve FREE PDF version of the Updated Deadzone Infestation rulebook

Also 4 or 5 projects on the horizon, including a "KoW Deadzone" and possibly a "Warpath-universe dungeon crawler".

I am not sure if 2 KS per year is still too much...

The Kings of War Army book, with rules for alll of the Warhammer Fantasy Armies, will likely be a single print run, retailer exclusive.

Also 2 new official KoW factions planned, both Human centered. One is a neutral faction that uses Undead as a labour force (possibly Tomb King-ish, pyramids mentioned) while the other is good aligned Nords who are nature-themed.

Tonight's hang out didn't reveal anything new all I got from it was that the initial order for DS is for 18,000 copies which they forecast to sell out in 8 weeks and that Dust Studios are responsible for making Mantic's boardgame plastics. Warren asked about getting the DS plastic bases separately and Ronnie said he'll put it on the list of things to do.

Dust Studios, eh? Hope Stew-Stew, et al., are better at sending invoices than email responses. Better send those invoices twice, even.

Alliance has the following listed for preorder

MGE MGKW01 Preorder only MANTIC ENTERTAINMENT Kings of War: Rulebook 2nd Edition $39.99

and

MGE MGKW02 Preorder only MANTIC ENTERTAINMENT Kings of War: Deluxe Rulebook 2nd Edition $64.99


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Anyone know what the "deluxe rulebook" is?

Probably Softcover and Hardcover versions.

Backers got both for $50, among other things.

 Alex C wrote:
Probably Softcover and Hardcover versions.

Backers got both for $50, among other things.

I thought the softcover was a mini rulebook like the first KoW freebie-rulebook. (no background or army lists, etc)

 judgedoug wrote:

 Alex C wrote:
Probably Softcover and Hardcover versions.

Backers got both for $50, among other things.

I thought the softcover was a mini rulebook like the first KoW freebie-rulebook. (no background or army lists, etc)

Who knows at this point?

Maybe the deluxe book comes with art/map?

$39.99 certainly sounds excessive for the mini, so I'd guess it's the hardcover, and the other one is something even fancier.

I thought the soft cover had rules and army lists, but no fluff or art

August releases

MGKW01 Kings of War 2nd Edition Hardback Rules (144 pg. book) $39.99

MGKW02 Kings of War 2nd Edition Deluxe Rules (144 pg. book, 96 pg. Gamers Book, Counter Set and Wound Trackers) $64.99

MGKW03 Kings of War Counter Set $17.99

MGKW04 Kings of War Damage Trackers $17.99

It looks like the Deluxe pack is pretty much the same stuff we got as Kickstarter Backers then

Minus the map, the the army and clock apps, and Blaine, yes

"Kings of War week" has started with a competition...

http://manticblog.com/2015/06/01/kings-of-war-the-game-of-fantasy-battles/

Supposed to be a blog by Ronnie tomorrow and a video wednesday.

Probably worth copying this over:

http://manticblog.com/2015/06/02/its-time-for-war/

Mantic on where KoW is going for the rest of the year. The short version is that they're doing two armies a month with new starter and mega boxes and any new releases. Global campaign starts in October with the Abyssal release, and will be Abyssal+Undead vs Everything Else; the map will be redrawn after the campaign ends to reflect the result. New Starter is Dwarves vs Undead again, and comes with the new books in August. Two new army list books (Not-Hammer and Historical Crossover) to follow but not for a while.

Is the pledge manager going to open again?

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Is the pledge manager going to open again?

They mentioned that it would NOT in the comments somewhere.

This is the Delux version.



http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/new/kings-of-war/product/kings-of-war-2nd-edition-hardcore-edition.html?utm_source=Mantic+Games+Newsletter&utm_campaign=009a84174f-Mantic+Games+Newsletter+334&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_20fe4cf5a8-009a84174f-201389453

 Theophony wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Is the pledge manager going to open again?

They mentioned that it would NOT in the comments somewhere.

That's annoying since they said originally they would re-open it once we could see the actual figures we'd be buying....

I don't even recall when they had it open. It must have been before we saw those Naiads and Salamanders, though, because I've been struggling to get them to take my money since then. The customer service people I've talked to either don't know or can't say if the KS will open again, and at least one of them promised I would be able to wait until I saw the final sculpts before completing the pledge manager. If they back out on that, I'm not going to be happy.

Mantic needs to have someone with authority handling the pledge managers. Ican't even keep track of who is saying what about which Pledge Manager any more, and apparently neither can the reps.


Does anyone here know when the DZ2 PM will be open and for how long?

They haven't said; hopefully they'll take some advice and not open it until they have a test shot of every new thing in the project for people to examine before buying, meaning they'll only need to open it once, and for a fortnight at most

I've completely forgotten what I've pledged on for every recent Mantic KS. Are we waiting on 4 of them? KoW2, DKQ, DZ2 and DBX?

I suppose when they turn up it'll be like being sent gifts from Ronnie personally.

KoW2, DS, DBX wave 3, and nobody has pledged for DZ2 yet