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If they had a sci fi version with guns and shield generators, I'd be pretty excited. Dungeon terrain? I'd have to dig my credit card out from under all these Renedra barrels and Bones crates in order to pledge...

It would have to be some super handy stuff.. I backed the Zealot KS and have tons of Bones etc.. plus all the other stuff that came in the Conan box (holy crap that game was a bargain).

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
If they had a sci fi version with guns and shield generators, I'd be pretty excited.

Did you see the Star Saga furniture? I pledged for a case of the stuff.

Starts at 58 minutes.

In short sounds like 3 sets:
Dungeon set - Barrels, armour pile, treasure piles, owl, sword in stone, books, cystrals etc. - mentions a wizards lair.
Town set - fountain, sign posts
Battlefield set including walls, fences and hedges, carts

Smaller stuff in coloured plastic (probably bard game plastic like TWD) larger stuff in resin.

Seems to be limited to fantasy.

I assume this is more of a 'risk free' way of Mantic testing the terrain market out, rather than hoping for some million dollar breaking uber KS.

GW interview on BoW??

Doesn't feel like all that long ago they were sending C&D orders to them. Strange times.

Isn't Mantic revamping the bastilean line soon?

Looks like a week to go: "Over the next week, we'll be giving you more details about this exciting new project from Mantic Games."

Teaser.

Woop! Mantic announcing what I've been doing for them lately. :-)

Good God, another kickstarter? Come on Mantic, you're a grown up company now, try acting like it.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Good God, another kickstarter? Come on Mantic, you're a grown up company now, try acting like it.

Seriously?

All these years later and people still keep saying the same incorrect things every time a company goes to KS, no matter how many times they've been corrected.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Good God, another kickstarter? Come on Mantic, you're a grown up company now, try acting like it.

I don't think you quite grasp just how much capital is required to put out a line (of anything...) in this hobby. "Grown up" companies doesn't mean they're rolling in cash. KS is not synonymous with garage startup - it does allow a faster approach to a product deployment by not having to have the full capital required to complete the project up front, as it's funded by the target audience. Else, you'd either see large gaps while money is allocated internally, or an infusing from a traditional lending institution (which is full of other issues).

Looks great, Dungeon Saga terrain is good quality, cheap and pre-assembled so it'll be interesting to see what they do in terms of expanding that.

Does seem to be a branch outwards from their wargaming focus and more into RPG/ skirmish game accessories, can see frostgrave players finding a lot more use for the pieces than KoW players.

It could be a good setup Kickstarter for KoW skirmish, whatever is happening with that.

Another Kickstarter

Lyin' Ronnie

Hopefully we see something soon about the new Basileans. Not sure about this claim, but it seems like Northstar has managed to release 5 high quality fantasy plastic kits over the same period of time as Mantic has released 0 fantasy plastic kits. What I perceive as the underwhelming support for KoW from Mantic seems like a big missed opportunity, but I'm not plugged into the company or KoW scene, just kind of an outside observer.

Fantasy crates are nice I guess... but an actual kit release would be even nicer.

 Gallahad wrote:
Hopefully we see something soon about the new Basileans. Not sure about this claim, but it seems like Northstar has managed to release 5 high quality fantasy plastic kits over the same period of time as Mantic has released 0 fantasy plastic kits. What I perceive as the underwhelming support for KoW from Mantic seems like a big missed opportunity, but I'm not plugged into the company or KoW scene, just kind of an outside observer.

Fantasy crates are nice I guess... but an actual kit release would be even nicer.

I'm not sure about the timelines of the releases but Mantic has released four plastic kits fairly recently (Lower abyssals, Succubi, Salamanders, Naiads). I think at least some of those are contained in the time period of Northstar releasing 5 plastic kits. And this is in addition to a bunch of metal and restic stuff like desert-undead and neritican sea-stuff.

So kit-wise I think support for KoW has been pretty good recently, it's perhaps more an issue of getting the word out (as you seem to have missed the releases).

I also hope to see some basileans soon. Those old kits are really a (well-deserved) black mark on Mantics reputation to this day.

 Zywus wrote:

 Gallahad wrote:
Hopefully we see something soon about the new Basileans. Not sure about this claim, but it seems like Northstar has managed to release 5 high quality fantasy plastic kits over the same period of time as Mantic has released 0 fantasy plastic kits. What I perceive as the underwhelming support for KoW from Mantic seems like a big missed opportunity, but I'm not plugged into the company or KoW scene, just kind of an outside observer.

Fantasy crates are nice I guess... but an actual kit release would be even nicer.

I'm not sure about the timelines of the releases but Mantic has released four plastic kits fairly recently (Lower abyssals, Succubi, Salamanders, Naiads). I think at least some of those are contained in the time period of Northstar releasing 5 plastic kits. And this is in addition to a bunch of metal and restic stuff like desert-undead and neritican sea-stuff.

So kit-wise I think support for KoW has been pretty good recently, it's perhaps more an issue of getting the word out (as you seem to have missed the releases).

I also hope to see some basileans soon. Those old kits are really a (well-deserved) black mark on Mantics reputation to this day.

Fair point about the KS releases (if they came out in the same time frame). I am much more of a low/traditional fantasy type so none of those releases were even close to registering on my radar unlike the Northstar releases which were huge for me personally since they fit my tastes so well.

I don't think I've bought a single Mantic product since receiving the old Men at Arms in exchange for my KS cash.

I got rid of all my Basilieans. Too much effort to fix them, I sold em for cheap. Went to an old coworker who became friends with "my guy" who helps unload my stuff when I don't want it anymore and don't feel like getting robbed on what I've spent.

Thebiggesthat wrote:
Another Kickstarter

Lyin' Ronnie

Could you elaborate on this? Did Mantic say they were going to cut back on KS? Thanks.

ced1106 wrote:

Thebiggesthat wrote:
Another Kickstarter

Lyin' Ronnie

Could you elaborate on this? Did Mantic say they were going to cut back on KS? Thanks.

He's said this numerous times. On video. And in newsletters.

Last campaign they did was Star Saga, and that wrapped up last October.

So i's been a good six months at least since the last kickstarter.

Not that we've heard much about Star Saga or Dreadball for a while....

So whadda y'all think about Mantic and KS fulfillment?

Dungeon Saga was a disaster (they even lost Jake Thorton, one of their lead designers), but Walking Dead: All Out War was supposed to have fulfilled satisfactorily. I wasn't part of either KS, but the WD miniatures were acceptable as boardgame plastic at the FLGS. scarletsquig said the Dungeon Saga terrain was "good quality, cheap and pre-assembled", and Mantic says it's one of their best-sellers from the Dungeon Saga line. I'm just looking for more stuff I can throw into my terrain tile dungeon, for games and dioramas.

ced1106 wrote:
S (they even lost Jake Thorton, one of their lead designers),

Jake was a freelancer. Hard to lose someone you never had.

Was never a massive fan of Jake anyways. His rules were ok but internal army balance was horrendous and was not interested in feedback from them.

Mantic's scatter terrain has always been good.

The Dungeon Saga stuff was great. My biggest regret in parting with my Dungeon Saga pledge was having to let go of the scenery.

I really should get some more...

Also Jake wasn't really theirs to lose so to speak, he was always a contractor, same as Alessio

ced1106 wrote:
So whadda y'all think about Mantic and KS fulfillment?

Last two - KoW2 and DZ2 - were flawless for me. MA also. DZ1 and DBX had some issues that were fixed promptly. Will back a Mantic KS with full confidence.

After the cluster of the KOW2, I won't back any more Mantic KS.

I keep looking at the Walking Dead scenery and almost buying it.....then I walk away.