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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/28 20:23:38
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Black Troll?? WIP page 24)
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[MOD]
Madrak Ironhide
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Wehrkind wrote:Doesn't Molik only Side Step on initial hits? I mean, yea he has reach, but he still just gets two Side Steps, and they have to be back to back. Or am I missing something?
The two initial side steps get you into position to buy lots of attacks on something else.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/28 21:01:52
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Black Troll?? WIP page 24)
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Wehrkind wrote:Oh holy crap! I didn't realize you could pass that around! Wow... I am SOOOOO jealous! What I wouldn't give to be able to put that on a Stalker...
Yeah, I wonder where Salvage is  . The bronzeback animus of moving 1" after killing something makes that feat a real winner!
@"LRPD", Mole Troll would be funny
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/28 21:12:08
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Black Troll?? WIP page 24)
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Fixture of Dakka
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17 Year Cicada Troll? Is it time for them yet?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/28 21:17:20
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Black Troll?? WIP page 24)
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Lord of the Fleet
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Platuan4th wrote:Matt Wilson said it's not a character, not a Swamp Troll and not a troll that's ever seen the light of day before.
Calling it now: it's a subterranean Mole Troll.
A troll that comes from underground?
Sounds very familiar
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/28 21:40:05
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Black Troll?? WIP page 24)
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Platuan4th wrote:Matt Wilson said it's not a character, not a Swamp Troll and not a troll that's ever seen the light of day before.
Calling it now: it's a subterranean Mole Troll.
So its a black troll... its not a character or a swamp troll yet it has blindwater stylings.... and its never seen the light of day... well, black trolls are nocturnal vampire troll things, bet they havent seen the light of day..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/28 22:46:55
Subject: Re:Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Black Troll?? WIP page 24)
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Fluff blurb on the new Skorne Lesser Warbeasts.
Reptile Hounds
Since the skorne arrived in western Immoren, countless warriors and slaves have met their ends in the slavering jaws of a pack of reptile hounds, vicious pack hunters that the skorne enjoy setting upon lone warbeasts and enemy champions. Many foes have been demoralized after seeing their mightiest heroes or greatest beasts torn to pieces by a pack of these scaled predators. Even the most resilient creatures often find their natural powers of regeneration no match for the crushing strength of a reptile hound’s jaws; a pack of them working in concert can swiftly reduce even a hulking satyr to a pile of bloody bones.
Also, Bell of Lost Souls should have another one of the new Feats spoiled tomorrow. They're apparently taking votes on which one you want to see, so they apparently have them all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/02/28 23:20:02
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Black Troll?? WIP page 24)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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chaos0xomega wrote: Platuan4th wrote:Matt Wilson said it's not a character, not a Swamp Troll and not a troll that's ever seen the light of day before. Calling it now: it's a subterranean Mole Troll. So its a black troll... its not a character or a swamp troll yet it has blindwater stylings.... and its never seen the light of day... well, black trolls are nocturnal vampire troll things, bet they havent seen the light of day.. Black Trolls aren't nocturnal. The only vampire like thing they do is require blood and Trolls that they drain the blood of turn into Black trolls, daylight doesn't affect them. Also, I don't see any Blindwater stylings to it. The necklace looks like it has stones, not teeth. I also wouldn't call this thing in any way "undead abominations that are a twisted mockery of trolls"(direct quote from the MN entry). There's nothing undead, twisted, or mocking about it, just some blind eyes, long claws(which ALL Trolls had in the MN art, btw), and longer spines. Edit: the way it's worded("not a Troll species that's ever seen the light of day") could also mean it's a Troll species we've never seen before. Matt could be playing with the wording to toy with us.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/01 05:57:22
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Black Troll?? WIP page 24)
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Big Fat Gospel of Menoth
The other side of the internet
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I swear if the robo-kitty is right I'm sending him a robo-mouse.
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Be sure to use logic! Avoid fallacies whenever possible.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/01 06:05:27
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Black Troll?? WIP page 24)
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Master Tormentor
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Platuan4th wrote:chaos0xomega wrote: Platuan4th wrote:Matt Wilson said it's not a character, not a Swamp Troll and not a troll that's ever seen the light of day before.
Calling it now: it's a subterranean Mole Troll.
So its a black troll... its not a character or a swamp troll yet it has blindwater stylings.... and its never seen the light of day... well, black trolls are nocturnal vampire troll things, bet they havent seen the light of day..
Black Trolls aren't nocturnal. The only vampire like thing they do is require blood and Trolls that they drain the blood of turn into Black trolls, daylight doesn't affect them.
Also, I don't see any Blindwater stylings to it. The necklace looks like it has stones, not teeth. I also wouldn't call this thing in any way "undead abominations that are a twisted mockery of trolls"(direct quote from the MN entry). There's nothing undead, twisted, or mocking about it, just some blind eyes, long claws(which ALL Trolls had in the MN art, btw), and longer spines.
Edit: the way it's worded("not a Troll species that's ever seen the light of day") could also mean it's a Troll species we've never seen before. Matt could be playing with the wording to toy with us.
Or it's just a cave troll, the option I'm personally backing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/01 06:12:24
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Black Troll?? WIP page 24)
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Pyre Troll
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my vote is for a troll thats been feeding on buried cryx reservers, or the mind controll underground guys who's name escapes me at the moment
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/01 21:05:41
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Black Troll?? WIP page 24)
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Epic Morvahna feat spoilered:
Feat: Blood Sacrifice - Morvahna immediately suffers 1 or more damage points. This damage cannot be transferred. For each damage point she suffers, return one destroyed non-character living friendly Faction warrior model to play completely within Morvahnaʼs control area. Units cannot exceed the number of models that they had at the start of the game as a result of Blood Sacrifice. Place returned trooper models in formation with their original units. Returned models forfeit their actions the turn they return to play.
Yikes  . No actions that turn, but still... she can bring her whole army back!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/01 21:17:52
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Black Troll?? WIP page 24)
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Soul Token
West Yorkshire, England
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RiTides wrote:Yikes  . No actions that turn, but still... she can bring her whole army back!
Won't work on units that have been wiped out (because returned models can't be put in formation), but it can bring back big solos like White Manes or lynchpin models like Stone Keepers or Wilders. The fun part, depending on her spell list, could be putting Gallows Groves back into good Tough-denying or arc node positions.
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"The 75mm gun is firing. The 37mm gun is firing, but is traversed round the wrong way. The Browning is jammed. I am saying "Driver, advance." and the driver, who can't hear me, is reversing. And as I look over the top of the turret and see twelve enemy tanks fifty yards away, someone hands me a cheese sandwich." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/01 21:28:48
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Black Troll?? WIP page 24)
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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I imagine people will hold back a few models from units for just that reason!
Apparently there are a few locks/casters with similar feats, but this has the drawback of having her take damage, and the benefit of being able to bring back non-character solos and UAs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/01 22:54:38
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Black Troll?? WIP page 24)
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Omnipotent Lord of Change
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RiTides wrote: Wehrkind wrote:Oh holy crap! I didn't realize you could pass that around! Wow... I am SOOOOO jealous! What I wouldn't give to be able to put that on a Stalker...
Yeah, I wonder where Salvage is 
Busy doing a preemptive No Pants Victory Dance?!
3Makeda sounds groovier and groovier, though I'm just happy for all the skorne love in general. Pondering what warlock could push a reptile swarm list the best - off the top of my head, maybe good ol' eMakeda with Road to War + feat ...
- Salvage
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/01 22:59:32
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Black Troll?? WIP page 24)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Are unit leaders always in formation? That might be a loophole an enterprising Infernal will take advantage of...
I also note it doesn't mention the HP they come back with. Tharn Ravagers and Skinwalkers popping back up with 8 boxes could be scary good.
Also, Shifting Stones will be able to heal, shift or teleport on the turn the come in, as they don't have actions at all, just choose a shifting power. It might be worth killing one or two off earlier just to place them exactly where you want them to be able to pull off a big teleport or heal.
Wow, the more I think of this, the more fun it seems like
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/01 23:03:47
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Black Troll?? WIP page 24)
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Boss Salvage wrote:Busy doing a preemptive No Pants Victory Dance?!
3Makeda sounds groovier and groovier, though I'm just happy for all the skorne love in general. Pondering what warlock could push a reptile swarm list the best - off the top of my head, maybe good ol' eMakeda with Road to War + feat ...
- Salvage
Between this and the Mammoth, yeah, they are getting some (well deserved!) lovin'.
Wehr- I think eMorvahna's feat is all finesse whereas 3Makeda is straight-up smashatron... but I'm guessing that's what their prior versions are like, too (at least Morvahna, who I've seen you use).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/02 00:20:38
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Black Troll?? WIP page 24)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yea, I am pretty excited! The book is coming out early-mid March still, right? I smell some proxying in my future  (As well as learning the cavalry rules.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/02 06:28:21
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Makeda3 and eMorvahna feat spoilers pages 25-26)
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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I like eGoreshade's version of bringing guys back more. You have to remove other guys rather than taking health, but that's easy with three for 1pt Scrap Thralls. I generally put 5pts into a list to fuel eGoreshade's Feat and give me a dozen+ sacrificial models, but that's preferable I'd think to putting a dozen points or so of damage onto your caster. And yeah, people say just wipe out the unit and he can't bring back to it, but good luck with that when the last member or two of the unit is WAY in the back.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/02 13:40:54
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Black Troll?? WIP page 24)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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RiTides wrote: Boss Salvage wrote:Busy doing a preemptive No Pants Victory Dance?!
3Makeda sounds groovier and groovier, though I'm just happy for all the skorne love in general. Pondering what warlock could push a reptile swarm list the best - off the top of my head, maybe good ol' eMakeda with Road to War + feat ...
- Salvage
Between this and the Mammoth, yeah, they are getting some (well deserved!) lovin'.
Dont forget the willbreaker which we have seen, and the new lesser warbeast that comes in a pack of two that we havent seen. Again, I think so far skorne is winning the book release like they did in dominiation.
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Hope more old fools come to their senses and start giving you their money instead of those Union Jack Blood suckers... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/02 14:16:52
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Black Troll?? WIP page 24)
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Soul Token
West Yorkshire, England
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Wehrkind wrote:Are unit leaders always in formation? That might be a loophole an enterprising Infernal will take advantage of...
I also note it doesn't mention the HP they come back with. Tharn Ravagers and Skinwalkers popping back up with 8 boxes could be scary good.
Also, Shifting Stones will be able to heal, shift or teleport on the turn the come in, as they don't have actions at all, just choose a shifting power. It might be worth killing one or two off earlier just to place them exactly where you want them to be able to pull off a big teleport or heal.
Wow, the more I think of this, the more fun it seems like 
Well, it specifies living, so no Shifting Stones, and all other "bring guys back" powers explicitly forbid returning models to a destroyed unit. Again going by other powers like Revive, they specify if someone returns with less than max damage, so it looks like the returnees will be at full health. Skinwalkers are going to be brilliant with this, especially since they can cause Terror as soon as they return.
Another trick someone on the PP board mentioned is to bring back a bunch of War Wolves in a good charge position, then have a Reeve Hunter tag the target to get them all a free charge.
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"The 75mm gun is firing. The 37mm gun is firing, but is traversed round the wrong way. The Browning is jammed. I am saying "Driver, advance." and the driver, who can't hear me, is reversing. And as I look over the top of the turret and see twelve enemy tanks fifty yards away, someone hands me a cheese sandwich." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/02 20:01:47
Subject: Re:Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Makeda3 and eMorvahna feat spoilers pages 25-26)
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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Here is the model
From BOLS
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2013/03/hordes-morvahna-dawnshadow-spoiler.html
I just hope with those horns she doesnt stop suddenly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/03 01:12:15
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Makeda3 and eMorvahna feat spoilers pages 25-26)
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/03 05:56:25
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Makeda3 and eMorvahna feat spoilers pages 25-26)
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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Quick question, what type of animal is she riding? An elk? a deer? What?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/03 06:09:47
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Makeda3 and eMorvahna feat spoilers pages 25-26)
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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...a Ram?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/03 06:13:31
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Makeda3 and eMorvahna feat spoilers pages 25-26)
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Wraith
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Model description reads: skirovik mountain goat Kinda looks like an Ibex which is, well, a kind of mountain goat. EDIT: Woah, image is a bit large, let me find a smaller one. Maybe this one?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/03 11:59:17
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Makeda3 and eMorvahna feat spoilers pages 25-26)
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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I originally posted this guy in the Warmachine thread, but Matt Wilson posted on facebook that it is actually going to be in the Hordes book!
So, I've spoiler tagged it over there and am copying it here instead
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/03 16:52:37
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Gobber WIP- apparently a Hordes model after all! page 26)
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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Fun fact- "Bodger" was originally a term used for chair-makers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/03 17:00:48
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Gobber WIP- apparently a Hordes model after all! page 26)
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Swamp gobber? Please?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/04 01:46:24
Subject: Re:Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Gobber WIP- apparently a Hordes model after all! page 26)
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Madrak Ironhide
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Grim Hunters Feat spoiled:
Feat: On My Mark
While in Grimʼs control area, friendly Faction models gain Mark Target and friendly Faction modelsʼ ranged weapons gain Snipe. On My Mark lasts for one turn. (Other friendly Faction models gain +2 to ranged attack rolls against enemy models within 5 ̋ of a model with Mark Target that are in its LOS.) (Ranged weapons with Snipe gain +4 RNG).
I'm going to make an army of BLITZERS!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/03/04 02:34:23
Subject: Privateer Press: Gargantuans (Gobber WIP- apparently a Hordes model after all! page 26)
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[DCM]
Dankhold Troggoth
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Oh my gosh...
Think I found my second caster
Seems like that's a Turn 1 or Turn 2 feat, rather than the usual slightly later feat... pretty darn cool.
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