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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 14:41:19
Subject: Eldar rumours (More pics plus complete release list added to first post)
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 14:41:49
Subject: Re:Eldar rumours (More pics plus complete release list added to first post)
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Confessor Of Sins
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The spiritseer, why oh why the hand gesture. Holding a spiritstone requires sticking out 2 fingers it seems.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 14:42:14
Subject: Eldar rumours (More pics plus complete release list added to first post)
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Dakka Veteran
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The Wraithblades with swords look really awesome. I just worry that they won't be that great in game. Slow assault units in this edition aren't so hot. I doubt any of Eldar's tanks will change to assault vehicles, although that would rule.
Spiritseer looks okay. I'll probably just use a normal Warlock though. I don't like to feed the "limited quantity" scheme.
The flyer looks about what I was expecting. Pretty good, nothing amazing.
I really want to know the range on Guardians, Dire Avengers, and Wraithguard now.
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Playing: Droids (Legion), Starks (ASOIAF), BB2
Working on: Starks (ASOIAF), Twilight Kin (KoW). Droids (Legion)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 14:43:46
Subject: Eldar rumours (More pics plus complete release list added to first post)
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Confessor Of Sins
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Well the wraithknights might still be S5/T6 with a 3+ so quite durable. Hopefully the sword/axe means they get some sort of power sword/axe option.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 14:45:11
Subject: Eldar rumours (More pics plus complete release list added to first post)
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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The flyers strike me as very retro 50's Sci-Fi. I think they're pretty cool actually. The Wraithblades are great. The one with the sword to either side is nicely done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 14:45:31
Subject: Eldar rumours (More pics plus complete release list added to first post)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I am guessing the Wraithblades might be from the Iyanden supplement given how it shows them fighting against Kraken?
The Lychguard feel gets stronger though. Like Lychguard, it seems the Wraithblades can either go for offensive power (blades) or increased defense (with axe and forcefield).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 14:46:19
Subject: Re:Eldar rumours (More pics plus complete release list added to first post)
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Dakka Veteran
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Latias is that you?
New colour scheme found, I'll take one in white and red and another in blue and white.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 14:47:46
Subject: Re:Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Ruthless Interrogator
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WarlordRob117 wrote: Starfarer wrote: WarlordRob117 wrote: Starfarer wrote: Sidstyler wrote:I knew the wraithknight would have a 3-digit price tag. I fething knew it.
Well, yeah, based on their pricing structure I don't think there was much doubt that it would be $100+. The other large warmachines, i.e. Stompas, Baneblades are the same price, so it stands to reason the 9" mini titan would be around that price. I just don't get why people are continually shocked by GW's pricing. In fact, what is shocking to me is Wraithguard are only 5 for $50.
Getting confirmation the Iyanden book is not necessary for gameplay is good news. I'm all for extra optional books for those that want them, but if it had required 2 books at $100 just to play a specific army build, I think people would have been rightfully furious.
Its not apocalypse model... thats whats wrong with the price... also, 5 dire avengers for the same price as the old 10? if its the same one with no visual upgrade then there is no excuse but greediness
What does it have to do with Apocalypse? So if it was only usable in bigger games played less often, than in every game, if desired, somehow justifies it? The reality is, GW is putting Apocaylpse scale stuff into standard 40k games now, and that's what the Wraithknight is.
And what does Dire Avengers have to do with anything I said? I'm not defending their prices, I'm just saying a massive kit with a high price shouldn't be shocking to anyone. Got a problem with the DA price increase? Buy them now at the current price, or don't buy anything at all if you prefer. GW keeps raising prices because people keep paying it.
Are you kidding? you're the one comparing the wraithknight to apocalypse models and you're asking me what it has to do with Apocalypse?
this not the reality... MCs have been around longer than apocalypse has... I think you have your logic backwards...
Also, the remark that 5 wraithguard are "only" 50 bucks, its actually 60, not 50... they did the same thing with grey knights... 50 bucks for termy sized models, 35 for another troop choice with only 5 models in it... thats garbage and everyone deserves to be shocked... you dont pour money faithfully into a company for years and then have the company turn around and screw you, literally in this case by jacking up prices so high that people are shelling out gobs of cash to keep up with the times... Are you aware of what happens during hyper-inflation? products and companies tank, then everyone, whether they have money or not can say goodbye to the "Greatest minis in the world" (as they call themselves) company.
You said what was wrong with the price, is that it is not an Apocalypse model. How you phrased it seemed to indicate if this was an Apocalypse model, the price would be more understandable. I was comparing Apocalypse models because those are similar size and the same price point. So my question was, what does the PRICE have to do with it not being an Apocalypse model? It's the size that sets the price point, also it will probably have insane rules so people will buy lots of them.
It isn't really comparable to a 2.5" Dreadnought, or even a 4" wraithlord in scale and it just a few inches shy of Warhound titan height.So to say MC have been around longer than Apocalypse is quite irrelevant to anything I'm discussing. This is a small scale Titan being introduced to standard 40k games. To expect that at bargain basement prices is naive at best.
Where did it say they were $60? The release breakdown from yesterday listed them at $50, the same one showing the Dire Avengers at $37 for 5. If if part of that was incorrect, it also reasonble to assume it could all be incorrect/made up until we actually see the prices in White Dwarf, or on the GW website.
If you think the company is doing you a great injustice, you are free to stop supporting them instead of complaining to a stranger online. It will have a marginally greater effect.
edited for clarity
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 14:48:08
Subject: Re:Eldar rumours (More pics plus complete release list added to first post)
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
Oregon
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ok, the axes on the wraithblades did NOT work for me.
That second picture, with the sword wielding wraithblades with the gubbins - WANT. WANT WANT WANT.
And if they can get 2 CCWs, AND if you can bury them in shooty units.... they could be quite viable.
Much remains up in the air.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 14:49:52
Subject: Re:Eldar rumours (More pics plus complete release list added to first post)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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@pretre. Thanks for copying the first post of this thread
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 14:51:09
Subject: Re:Eldar rumours (More pics plus complete release list added to first post)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Gwyidion wrote:ok, the axes on the wraithblades did NOT work for me.
That second picture, with the sword wielding wraithblades with the gubbins - WANT. WANT WANT WANT.
And if they can get 2 CCWs, AND if you can bury them in shooty units.... they could be quite viable.
Much remains up in the air.
Look carefully at the Iyanden picture. Those Wraithblades are dual wielding.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 14:51:15
Subject: Eldar rumours (Wraithknight pic plus complete release list added to first post)
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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LlamaAgility wrote: Kroothawk wrote:I added more pics to the first post, inclding bomber, Spiritseer and Wraithguard guns.
Enigma wrote:Comparing that Flyer to the aircrafts FW has designed so far for eldar and I'm not impressed at all. It should have Been longer, thinner and more elegant :(
I agree. Nowhere near the elegance of FW models. Too close to exosting fighters. Reminds me of one. Looks close to the F-22:

On topic, I actually really like the eldar flyer model. Then again, I really like nigh every flyer model I've seen. Maybe it's a silent grudge merely for being mainly a SW player who can't have any?
Off topic, how was that pic of the F-22 taken? I like the mental image of a guy hanging by his foot on a wire from a plane with a camera.
Most photos like this are taken through the cameras on the fueling probes of KC-135s.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 14:51:42
Subject: Eldar rumours (More pics plus complete release list added to first post)
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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the ones with axes have some shield attached to their arms. So they have invul saves?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 14:52:18
Subject: Re:Eldar rumours (More pics plus complete release list added to first post)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I believe he copied my reddit imgur links as the imageshack ones weren't working.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 14:53:09
Subject: Re:Eldar rumours (More pics plus complete release list added to first post)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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pizzaguardian wrote:the ones with axes have some shield attached to their arms. So they have invul saves?
It's the shimmershield.
@Jacob29: Maybe, but after they were posted in the first post: The thread title in his post is proof.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 14:55:21
Subject: Re:Eldar rumours (More pics plus complete release list added to first post)
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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The Wraithknight is amazing... Lets hope the rule are up to par. Lucarikx
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 14:55:22
Subject: Re:Eldar rumours (More pics plus complete release list added to first post)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I like the wraiths, sweet mother of God those are sexy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 14:55:41
Subject: Eldar rumours (More pics plus complete release list added to first post)
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Bush? No, Eldar Ranger
Lost in time and space...
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Those aren't wraith guards... that's wraithlords... in front of the new wraith knight -.-
...wait a minute...
Wow! Those dualwielding guards look awesome! really! Now that's dynamic and awake, not like the statue like ones we've had untill now =)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 14:55:45
Subject: Re:Eldar rumours (More pics plus complete release list added to first post)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Kroothawk wrote: pizzaguardian wrote:the ones with axes have some shield attached to their arms. So they have invul saves?
It's the shimmershield.
@Jacob29: Maybe, but after they were posted in the first post: The thread title in his post is proof.
oh no ofc I'm not saying otherwise haha. Just saying it wasn't a literal copy and paste
Edit: Oh no he didnt even take the imgur ones. MY BAD! I assumed the imageshack got taken down perhaps, hence they didnt work on front page. Dont I feel silly!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 14:55:52
Subject: Re:Eldar rumours (More pics plus complete release list added to first post)
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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I never check the first post and hadn't seen them in the thread.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 14:56:56
Subject: Eldar rumours (More pics plus complete release list added to first post)
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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I do like the blurb about the Wraithblades: "When called to war, their spiritstone burns with the heat of their malice and only shedding the blood of the craftworld's foes can cool their hate!" I believe that line is taken directly from the new Linkin Park album.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 14:57:06
Subject: Eldar rumours (More pics plus complete release list added to first post)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Those dual wielding wraithguard look pretty great imo. I still think they'll sit on a shelf like lychguard but I'll get 10 even so.
No painted up models for the other craftworlds? Hm.. the whole release is very anti-aspect warrior. My poor Biel Tan.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 14:58:00
Subject: Eldar rumours (More pics plus complete release list added to first post)
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Sinister Chaos Marine
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somebody fetch me a man sized box of kleenex please...  :O
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 14:58:44
Subject: Eldar rumours (More pics plus complete release list added to first post)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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H.B.M.C. wrote:I do like the blurb about the Wraithblades:
"When called to war, their spiritstone burns with the heat of their malice and only shedding the blood of the craftworld's foes can cool their hate!"
I believe that line is taken directly from the new Linkin Park album.
you're killin me dude. people at work are looking at me and I can't explain why I'm laughing so hard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 14:59:09
Subject: Re:Eldar rumours (More pics plus complete release list added to first post)
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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New releases are looking good. Wraithguard/blades are looking pretty spiffy too.
The underside shot of the bomber makes it look a bit like a duck, but i'm ok with that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 14:59:28
Subject: Re:Eldar rumours (More pics plus complete release list added to first post)
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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Bet you it is "can take a wraithsword or wraithaxe, can also take a wraithshield or a second wraithweapon"
Thats more than enough for a wraith unit to hold their own against anything that isn't a dedicated CC unit.
As long as you are good enough to keep Assault termies and similar classes of CC units away from wraith units, dayummmmm
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 15:00:49
Subject: Eldar rumours (More pics plus complete release list added to first post)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Ok, I see me being skint, like flat out broke come payday/pre-orders......
The WraithKnight doesn't look to so awkward now huh, and thank the gods the wraithguard have swords option other then those axes, but I'm guessing they have different stats.
Any pics of them with the guns, I know will be much like the ones already but still wanna.
I think other then the prices a rather honest thanks to GW. Now lets hope the codex is totally broken and I can't possibly lose..
Looking at the pic of the WK front on, I've just come up with my given name to the WraithKnight I'm gonna get...Wraithtimus Prime
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 15:02:14
Subject: Re:Eldar rumours (More pics plus complete release list added to first post)
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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Damn, the size of that knight and that is one badass pic of the guards and lords about to take on some tyranid filth!
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I solely want an army of guards lords and a knight.
edit: my view on the price has calmed, it looks on par with the stompa scale and impact.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 15:05:55
Subject: Eldar rumours (More pics plus complete release list added to first post)
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I was looking forward to seeing the Eldar flyer, given that I love the Nightwing, Phoenix and Vampire.
Kinda disappointed, doesn't really look sleek like the other Eldar flyers from Forge World. It looks fat and stubby and disproportionate.
I liked the Forge World Eldar flyers because they looked like some of the few 40k aircraft that would actually be capable of flight, this one doesn't look like that so much.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/21 15:06:45
Subject: Re:Eldar rumours (More pics plus complete release list added to first post)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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What are the 2 arm guns on the Wraithknight? Is it the S6 small blast gun or is it the anti-tank weapon? The look of the gun seems to have the triple pod of the star cannon at the rear but the long barrel of a lance. Looks like a blend like the Dark Eldar heat lance.
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