6th Edition Box Set Discussion - preorder info Aug 24

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**Scottywan82**

Love the chaos, with only two small exceptions: Why the second identical bolter guy? 5 unique models and then someone got lazy?

Also, with the Cultists - GORGEOUS - but so sad that we have 4 autogun models, 4 pistol/ccw and then a single "heavy" and "leader" for each sprue. I'd have loved it if they at least had ten bodies that could be either rifle or pistol. Then we could create some more combinations with the figures.

**ShumaGorath**

Scottywan82 wrote:
Love the chaos, with only two small exceptions: Why the second identical bolter guy? 5 unique models and then someone got lazy?

Also, with the Cultists - GORGEOUS - but so sad that we have 4 autogun models, 4 pistol/ccw and then a single "heavy" and "leader" for each sprue. I'd have loved it if they at least had ten bodies that could be either rifle or pistol. Then we could create some more combinations with the figures.

This is an AOBR esque starter set. Be glad they aren't holding the guns to their chests and that they have options at all.

**Hatemonger**

timd wrote:
Hatemonger wrote:
Speaking of that, is there any indication of what legion/warband/faction the chaos guys are supposed to belong to? I didn't notice any specific livery on their armor. In fact, I notice a distinct lack of it.

- H8

From earlier in this thread:

jifel wrote:This isn't worth making it's own thread, but based on the rumors we have, the BRB basically tells us who the Chaos Marines are...

Ok, so rumors say that the box is called Dark Vengeance, last I checked. Check out the top right of pg. 176 in the big Book.

"Dark Vengeance: The Dark Angels 5th Company battles elements of the Crimson Slaughter for control of the Hellfire Stone. The Nephilim sector trembles as the hated foes clash..."

Ok, so if the Dark Vengeance rumor is true, then it seems clear that the "Crimson Slaughter" will be the warband in the new box. After all, Chaos is pretty much guarenteed, but who is still up for guesses.

So, who are these guys? Well, check out p. 299 in the BRB... We get a picture of a basic Bolter Marine from the Crimson Slaughter. Red armor with Gold Trim, nothing extra ordinary amongst the various chaos armies, but hey, its something to off of right?

I didn't make this it's own thread, as I'm sure someone else has seen this. However, I hadnt heard it yet, so I figured I might as well put it up!

Thanks, Tim. What good is the internet if you can't rely on someone else doing work for you, eh?

You'll probably appreciate this too:

Slayer le boucher wrote:
mjl7atlas wrote:Do the Chaos Marine Helms seem to have a DE Incubi look to them?

No they have a CSM Rogue Trader era look

I'll see your Epic Space Marine, and raise you a Space Crusade!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qv1n3hcwv4fs5wx/2012-08-17%2022.21.31.jpg
I guess I'll have to finish painting these guys, since they might finally have a time where their rules AND style are in fashion again.

- H8

(apologies for no image tags; I couldn't get it to work with Dropbox)

**Veteran Sergeant**

I'm actually quite shocked that they released Chapter specific models. What made the last boxed set so successful was the fact that the Marines in it could be anybody, not just Ultramarines...

**Bolognesus**

Veteran Sergeant wrote:
I'm actually quite shocked that they released Chapter specific models. What made the last boxed set so successful was the fact that the Marines in it could be anybody, not just Ultramarines...

then again perhaps they don't actually want everyone and his sister buying cheap starter marines for their armies; the option being there gives those on a tight budget a chance but they'll want the much higher profits on for example the tac squad box to keep flowing in as much as they can...

**Kroothawk**

An official email (posted by Shamutanti over at Warseer) that explains a few things:

asimo77 wrote:Thanks, that's good to know. I got a little worried since on one of the scans two of the chosen look exactly the same.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Not exactly. Different helmets!

Kroothawk wrote:Starter set has the following doubles:
Deathwing Terminatir with bolter and power fist (2x)
Ravenwing Biker (same body, two sets of arms)
Chosen with Boltgun (2x)
At least 3 Space Marines with boltgun (2x each)
Heavy Weapon Cultist (one body, 2 different sets of arms)
4 Cultists with autoguns (2 each, 2 of them just mirrored with minor differences)
4 Cultists with autopistols (2 each, 2 of them just mirrored with minor differences)

**Souleater**

Indeed...they want people to start collecting one (or both) of the Marine armies that they are unlikely to own.

**Ultrafool**

The irony? A secret "lets keep this a secret" email leaked for everyone to see. I love it.

**OverwatchCNC**

Ultrafool wrote:
The irony? A secret "lets keep this a secret" email leaked for everyone to see. I love it.

It was bound to happen! I always like when this happens to GW. Don't get me wrong I love 40k but their stance on rumor squashing and zero build up to things through actual marketing drives me nuts.

**Shadox**

Only 2 weeks to paint the whole box? This will be kinda hard for those 1-person-stores, GW likes so much lately...

**Melcavuk**

Makes me wish I worked in a GW store really, an early chance to access the new models for painting and an assured Limited edition set for doing so.

**NAVARRO**

Shadox wrote:
Only 2 weeks to paint the whole box? This will be kinda hard for those 1-person-stores, GW likes so much lately...

Nah its homework

" we will pursue anyone..."

Brilliant

In the middle of all that BS they do great models when they want... freaking company with so many contrasts hey?

**plastictrees**

I still don't entirely believe that the "no leaks guys! Oh no, look at all these leaks!" approach isn't intentional, but anyway.

They don't mean legally pursue either, they're going to chase those fethers through the streets.

**OverwatchCNC**

Shadox wrote:
Only 2 weeks to paint the whole box? This will be kinda hard for those 1-person-stores, GW likes so much lately...

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/469098.page

Shouldn't take more than 5 days

**CT GAMER**

Kroothawk wrote:
An official email (posted by Shamutanti over at Warseer) that explains a few things:

This message will self-destruct in 5, 4,3...

**Compel**

I have the feeling the Streisand Effect is happening here.

I think Leia had it right...

**NAVARRO**

plastictrees wrote:
I still don't entirely believe that the "no leaks guys! Oh no, look at all these leaks!" approach isn't intentional, but anyway.

They don't mean legally pursue either, they're going to chase those fethers through the streets.

And spank them hard with the new starter plastic rulers! That will teach them a lesson!

**OverwatchCNC**

NAVARRO wrote:
plastictrees wrote:
I still don't entirely believe that the "no leaks guys! Oh no, look at all these leaks!" approach isn't intentional, but anyway.

They don't mean legally pursue either, they're going to chase those fethers through the streets.

And spank them hard with the new starter plastic rulers! That will teach them a lesson!

I continue to wonder just how many of those stupid things they have left fro the 3rd ed starter that they are still including them in the starter boxes 3 editions later...

**Compel**

They've been around way longer than 3rd...

I got blue ones in my copy of Epic 40k, red ones in my copy of 2nd edition of 40k and 5th edition of fantasy.

**OverwatchCNC**

Compel wrote:
They've been around way longer than 3rd...

I got blue ones in my copy of Epic 40k, red ones in my copy of 2nd edition of 40k and 5th edition of fantasy.

I thought they came out with 3rd. Well, I guess it is just a case of tradition at this point...

**Sunoccard**

OverwatchCNC wrote:
Compel wrote:
They've been around way longer than 3rd...

I got blue ones in my copy of Epic 40k, red ones in my copy of 2nd edition of 40k and 5th edition of fantasy.

I thought they came out with 3rd. Well, I guess it is just a case of tradition at this point...

Do people use them for anything? I can't recall them being used in any game I've played in the past 6 months.

**OverwatchCNC**

Sunoccard wrote:
OverwatchCNC wrote:
Compel wrote:
They've been around way longer than 3rd...

I got blue ones in my copy of Epic 40k, red ones in my copy of 2nd edition of 40k and 5th edition of fantasy.

I thought they came out with 3rd. Well, I guess it is just a case of tradition at this point...
Do people use them for anything? I can't recall them being used in any game I've played in the past 6 months.

I used them in a game once

. When I was 12

. After which I used a proper measuring device, tape measure, and haven't looked back since.

**Rayvon**

I really like the look of these, though its a pity there is so much DA iconography, i would have liked to use them as mantis warriors, then again, i guess i can start some DA allies instead.

**JasoX**

OverwatchCNC wrote:
Sunoccard wrote:
OverwatchCNC wrote:
Compel wrote:
They've been around way longer than 3rd...

I got blue ones in my copy of Epic 40k, red ones in my copy of 2nd edition of 40k and 5th edition of fantasy.

I thought they came out with 3rd. Well, I guess it is just a case of tradition at this point...
Do people use them for anything? I can't recall them being used in any game I've played in the past 6 months.

I used them in a game once . When I was 12 . After which I used a proper measuring device, tape measure, and haven't looked back since.

They are great support stick for plants and flowers

**lazarian**

Sunoccard wrote:
OverwatchCNC wrote:
Compel wrote:
They've been around way longer than 3rd...

I got blue ones in my copy of Epic 40k, red ones in my copy of 2nd edition of 40k and 5th edition of fantasy.

I thought they came out with 3rd. Well, I guess it is just a case of tradition at this point...
Do people use them for anything? I can't recall them being used in any game I've played in the past 6 months.

When demoing the game I use them from time to time, plus at the FLGS the 20 or so tape measures we have in a pile lying around sometime get misplaced so the whippy sticks get busted out here to there. However the biggest feature of them is to pretend your Wolverine' and claw at things.

**Starfarer**

Sunoccard wrote:
OverwatchCNC wrote:
Compel wrote:
They've been around way longer than 3rd...

I got blue ones in my copy of Epic 40k, red ones in my copy of 2nd edition of 40k and 5th edition of fantasy.

I thought they came out with 3rd. Well, I guess it is just a case of tradition at this point...
Do people use them for anything? I can't recall them being used in any game I've played in the past 6 months.

They are preferable to tape measures when playing games like Necromunda. Much easier to measure through the multi-level buildings and such.

**notprop**

CT GAMER wrote:
Kroothawk wrote:
An official email (posted by Shamutanti over at Warseer) that explains a few things:

This message will self-destruct in 5, 4,3...

They should have sent a non disclosure form for the email telling everyone about the forthcoming non disclosure pack. I also notice that there is no cyanide pill in the secret pack; schoolboy error that. They could be captured but Mantic agents and force to disclose secret hush hush stuff. The next thing you know they will be copying new GW games not just long OOP one.

**Melcavuk**

That email made me smile at the thought that they might send it to just the one store they suspect of leaking information as a last ditch attempt to see if it was the source of the leak.

Evil masterminds that they are ofcourse that would only come with much moustache twirling.

Back on to serious topics I'm now twitching waiting to throw money at GW just for a starter set.

**Monkey Tom**

Sunoccard wrote:
OverwatchCNC wrote:
Compel wrote:
They've been around way longer than 3rd...

I got blue ones in my copy of Epic 40k, red ones in my copy of 2nd edition of 40k and 5th edition of fantasy.

I thought they came out with 3rd. Well, I guess it is just a case of tradition at this point...
Do people use them for anything? I can't recall them being used in any game I've played in the past 6 months.

They first appeared in the original Necromunda boxed game which came out when 40k was in it's second edition. 40k Second ed came out in 1993, Necromunda came out in 1995 and 40k third ed came out 1998.

**N'Ferno**

I love the marine and termie models and I would had jumped on this box like there's no tomorrow (and resell the Chaos stuff) but with the heavy DA icons all around there's just no way...Shame.