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I'm with you, drbored...

Please have chaos spring up soon, GW

They better have a ton of the Limited Ed starters cause it's going to be a madhouse at many FLGS if it's out a week before the "normal" one.

 airmang wrote:
They better have a ton of the Limited Ed starters cause it's going to be a madhouse at many FLGS if it's out a week before the "normal" one.

I'm pretty confident GW will be keen to capitalise on early sales, by having plenty of boxes out there for you to buy.

Has anyone else noticed but GW must have had a reshuffle of the website and Black Templars and Dark Angles are now listed under Space Marines (on their own page next to heavy support etc.. I might add).

Possible given this that they maybe both rolled into the new Space Marine codex?

Sorry if this has been like it for a long time (or always) I have only just noticed.

Its been like that for a while.

drbored wrote:
The video is promising, but like others have said, they'll probably have another video featuring Dark Angels.

Yet.. they might not.

They already did. It came out last week or so.

 ceorron wrote:
Has anyone else noticed but GW must have had a reshuffle of the website and Black Templars and Dark Angles are now listed under Space Marines (on their own page next to heavy support etc.. I might add).

Possible given this that they maybe both rolled into the new Space Marine codex?

Sorry if this has been like it for a long time (or always) I have only just noticed.

That's been that way for a while.

However BT are most certainly going to be part of the next Vanilla Codex. They are the only chapter that has it's own codex currently that is not given it's own page(s) in the miniatures section of the brb. Instead it is rolled into a half page in the Space Marines showcase section. Hopefully the new SM codex will have more Chapter Specific sections and so the Templars won't lose all their flavour, or perhaps they are going to get extensive WD treatment but so far it's not looking good for the BT.

 OverwatchCNC wrote:

 ceorron wrote:
Has anyone else noticed but GW must have had a reshuffle of the website and Black Templars and Dark Angles are now listed under Space Marines (on their own page next to heavy support etc.. I might add).

Possible given this that they maybe both rolled into the new Space Marine codex?

Sorry if this has been like it for a long time (or always) I have only just noticed.

That's been that way for a while.

However BT are most certainly going to be part of the next Vanilla Codex. They are the only chapter that has it's own codex currently that is not given it's own page(s) in the miniatures section of the brb. Instead it is rolled into a half page in the Space Marines showcase section. Hopefully the new SM codex will have more Chapter Specific sections and so the Templars won't lose all their flavour, or perhaps they are going to get extensive WD treatment but so far it's not looking good for the BT.

It will be a sad day if the BT lose their independence and get re-rolled into the SM codex. My buddy plays them and I'm sure he'll be pretty upset by this.

 OverwatchCNC wrote:

 ceorron wrote:
Has anyone else noticed but GW must have had a reshuffle of the website and Black Templars and Dark Angles are now listed under Space Marines (on their own page next to heavy support etc.. I might add).

Possible given this that they maybe both rolled into the new Space Marine codex?

Sorry if this has been like it for a long time (or always) I have only just noticed.

That's been that way for a while.

However BT are most certainly going to be part of the next Vanilla Codex. They are the only chapter that has it's own codex currently that is not given it's own page(s) in the miniatures section of the brb. Instead it is rolled into a half page in the Space Marines showcase section. Hopefully the new SM codex will have more Chapter Specific sections and so the Templars won't lose all their flavour, or perhaps they are going to get extensive WD treatment but so far it's not looking good for the BT.

Do you have any evidence on this outside of unfounded speculation?

Dark Angels and Black Templars are part of the "main" Space Marine section, like Blood Angels and Space Wolves were before receiving their current books. When we see the new books come out and the lines fleshed out more, it's likely we will see them given their own sections.

Don't Dark Angels and Black Templars both have their own lines on the allies matrix? seems odd they would fold them back in after that but GW has done weirder things before...

 Kanluwen wrote:

 OverwatchCNC wrote:

 ceorron wrote:
Has anyone else noticed but GW must have had a reshuffle of the website and Black Templars and Dark Angles are now listed under Space Marines (on their own page next to heavy support etc.. I might add).

Possible given this that they maybe both rolled into the new Space Marine codex?

Sorry if this has been like it for a long time (or always) I have only just noticed.

That's been that way for a while.

However BT are most certainly going to be part of the next Vanilla Codex. They are the only chapter that has it's own codex currently that is not given it's own page(s) in the miniatures section of the brb. Instead it is rolled into a half page in the Space Marines showcase section. Hopefully the new SM codex will have more Chapter Specific sections and so the Templars won't lose all their flavour, or perhaps they are going to get extensive WD treatment but so far it's not looking good for the BT.

Do you have any evidence on this outside of unfounded speculation?

Dark Angels and Black Templars are part of the "main" Space Marine section, like Blood Angels and Space Wolves were before receiving their current books. When we see the new books come out and the lines fleshed out more, it's likely we will see them given their own sections.

The evidence is right there in the Miniatures showcase section of the 6th edition BRB p. 246. DA are not part of the "main" Space Marine section; they have their own p. 252.

p. 187 has all of the separate codex chapters listed except the BT, but has their progenitor chapter the Imperial Fists.

It certainly isn't hard evidence but it's there. I will be more than pleased to be proven wrong but that's not how I see it going.


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 wana10 wrote:
Don't Dark Angels and Black Templars both have their own lines on the allies matrix? seems odd they would fold them back in after that but GW has done weirder things before...

Good point, I had missed that.

 ceorron wrote:
Has anyone else noticed but GW must have had a reshuffle of the website and Black Templars and Dark Angles are now listed under Space Marines (on their own page next to heavy support etc.. I might add).

Possible given this that they maybe both rolled into the new Space Marine codex?

Sorry if this has been like it for a long time (or always) I have only just noticed.

I noticed that like two years ago IIRC
It has been like that a while yes.

Only Space Marines with 5th edition codex's get their own sections on GW. Though really all the MEQ should be one codex except Grey Knights, but that's a different topic...

I'm almost certain the Black Templars will be in codex marines.

Though I can imagine they'll end up keeping some semi unique units / rules.

 Compel wrote:
I'm almost certain the Black Templars will be in codex marines.

Though I can imagine they'll end up keeping some semi unique units / rules.

Only GW made it abundantly clear they're not going to squat any army that currently has a standalone codex. Merging BTs into the main SM book goes directly against that.

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 Compel wrote:
I'm almost certain the Black Templars will be in codex marines.

Though I can imagine they'll end up keeping some semi unique units / rules.

Only GW made it abundantly clear they're not going to squat any army that currently has a standalone codex. Merging BTs into the main SM book goes directly against that.

This argument has been going round in circles for a lifetime now. Can't we at least keep it in it's own topic?

Man, I'm really surprised the set is only $100...I was expecting it to be in the $125-$150 range. For once I can honestly say: good on you, GW!

Of course, they will just start the price hikes after it has been out for a couple of months...

_Tim?

 Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:
Man, I'm really surprised the set is only $100...I was expecting it to be in the $125-$150 range.

Spare a thought for people in our part of the world, who probably will be paying $150-$175 for the same thing.

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 Compel wrote:
I'm almost certain the Black Templars will be in codex marines.

Though I can imagine they'll end up keeping some semi unique units / rules.

Only GW made it abundantly clear they're not going to squat any army that currently has a standalone codex. Merging BTs into the main SM book goes directly against that.

Doing so doesn't "squat" anything. The entire line of Black Templar minis save for maybe a few of the chaplains entourage is usable under the current vanilla marine codex and largely follow the same rules with the same equipment and almost identical stats using almost entirely the same model range; if they did fold them BACK into vanilla marines (which is where they STARTED), you'd likely get some of the items/rules/characters you'd currently use back leaving you lacking almost nothing. Squats are not playable unless you use a different race with different weapons/stats/upgrades/rules/figs. Please don't blindly equate the two as they would be completely different situations.

They're not removing DA or BTs from the game, or rolling them up into the Space Marine codex. They're under the Space Marine section on GW's website, which Space Wolves and Blood Angels used to be before their 5th ed codices. The DA and BT have been there since the site's beginning.

I heard they're removing Tau from the game.

No... wait... I want them to remove Tau from the game. I got mixed up again. Sorry!

dark angels and black templar feature heavily in alot of GW book inculding the new rule book so no they will not be taken away as armys besides dark angels are awesome and still pretty popular

also the new painting kits have dark angel marines in it =p

i just cant wait for a revamped terminator sprue or conversion part =]

$108 for the special edition? I can work with that. Gimme!

Just realised on the blog with the chosen artwork, they say there will be several more videos. Apart from the DA one, what else are they doing a video for?

I may have missed this earlier so apologies in that case, but I can't be bothered to trawl back through all 38 pages of this thread... I know we're expecting a CSM codex this year, potentially and by the majority of rumours by the end of September. Are we expecting a DA codex any time soon?? The current one is what, 3rd or 4th ed still? Forgive me if I'm wrong... just asking as I definitely prefer the DA side of the new starter box and fancy a new smallish (1200-1500pt) DA army, but don't currently own the codex and would wait until it was updated if we're expecting it in the next 6 months or so.

Thanks!!

 Nuclear Mekanik wrote:
I may have missed this earlier so apologies in that case, but I can't be bothered to trawl back through all 38 pages of this thread... I know we're expecting a CSM codex this year, potentially and by the majority of rumours by the end of September. Are we expecting a DA codex any time soon?? The current one is what, 3rd or 4th ed still? Forgive me if I'm wrong... just asking as I definitely prefer the DA side of the new starter box and fancy a new smallish (1200-1500pt) DA army, but don't currently own the codex and would wait until it was updated if we're expecting it in the next 6 months or so.

Thanks!!

Rumor says there's a DA 'dex inbound October time frame.

 unmercifulconker wrote:
Just realised on the blog with the chosen artwork, they say there will be several more videos. Apart from the DA one, what else are they doing a video for?

Well, they might actually show a few miniatures from the starter set...

Tim

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I heard they're removing Tau from the game.

Holy crap!

When did they start wanting to remove armies? Are the Tau underperforming so much in sales that they'll remove them to focus on their core armies?

Sorry if this is a dumb question but is the Chaos Lord in power armour or termie armour? I can't really tell from the pics.

 WarOne wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I heard they're removing Tau from the game.

Holy crap!

When did they start wanting to remove armies? Are the Tau underperforming so much in sales that they'll remove them to focus on their core armies?

It was a joke...


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 asimo77 wrote:
Sorry if this is a dumb question but is the Chaos Lord in power armour or termie armour? I can't really tell from the pics.

The backpack and the lack of hood says power armour.