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 BryllCream wrote:
The models look fine. No idea what the whining is about.

Wow. Just wow.

In two sentences you dismiss everything said against these models, reduce it to 'whining', and state your own opinion as fact.

The Blue Knight strikes again...

I think the price for the Nurgle Herald might be wrong - all the other plastic charaters are way cheaper & I can't see why plastic & finecast should be the same price (ie as for the other 2 heralds).
hard to judge as I pay in £s!


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Also hope the plague drone saddles are take-off-able as I would like to use them as blight drones.
Also might put the herald on my scratch-built blight drone (with magnets)

 bubber wrote:
I think the price for the Nurgle Herald might be wrong - all the other plastic charaters are way cheaper & I can't see why plastic & finecast should be the same price (ie as for the other 2 heralds).
hard to judge as I pay in £s!


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Also hope the plague drone saddles are take-off-able as I would like to use them as blight drones.
Also might put the herald on my scratch-built blight drone (with magnets)

Plastic Chaos Lord released last month is the same price. I'd expect the rest of the plastic characters to go up in the summer too.

I don't like the drones, they look way too silly but then again, Nurgle is the Chaos God with more "humour". Those nurglings were always doing humorous things.

I think I also agree with most people when I say the Khorne throne / cannon are awful. Khorne should be more brutal, with gore, skulls, bones, stuff that implies living things died with violence. Those things are ... weird. Just, weird. Reminds me more of random chaos mutations instead of a specific Khorne unit.

The others look ok except for one, the herald of Slaanesh. Anything slaanesh related today is HORRIBLE. Those are the demons supposed to turn me on while being impaled by them!? I can't believe how horrible they look. I understand the 2nd edition demonettes aren't that "family friendly" nowadays (Oh no, they look like topless elves with a scythe arm, oh no, the boobies! Corrupting our young one's minds!) but still, just, UGLY.

I hope one day to have a "fluffy" CSM Slaanesh based army and I'm certainly going to use ragingheroes models. Their "Preying Mantis" models are what I think look like Deamonettes.

I think that we are being too quick to judge. I'm personally going to wait til I get to see the minis in the flesh as well as look at the sprues before I make up my mind on them.

If I had to make opinions based only on the pictures, I'd say that the Nurgle flies, the heralds and the tzeench chariot are not too shabby. Not sure about the khorne chariot/cannon thing, but the pictures are too small and of a low quality to really see any details.

The Khorne chariots have potential I think, Ill pass on the other stuff.

All I want from this is the rules really.

Well, none of the deamons to date have been anything great to look at, which is why I've always converted mine out of beastmen or lizardmen or anything else. (screamers are okay I guess) I can't see myself purchasing any of these models. I hope the books annd rules are playable.

sigh, well I guess the codex I bought to ally in daemons after sixth is invalidated now... and to use my force I'd need to get another book.

At first glance, I think most of these new releases are much the same as the new chaos releases, there are specific bits that might be cool or useable once they get broken down by bits sellers, but the model kit itself could be so much better than what they made. Compared to the soul grinder kit... my standard of an awesome chaos daemons kit.... these kits kind of suck.

See pics of new models, my face when:

I like the Tzeentch stuff.

Not a fan of those Nurgle Flies.

Don't like ANY of the Khorne stuff.

It also seems like they are going further down the road of, cartoony kits that look more at home in fantasy or warmachine than 40k. Did they not get the memo that their fantasy game is not as popular as their sci-fi game? No good.

 kronk wrote:
I like the Tzeentch stuff.

Not a fan of those Nurgle Flies.

Don't like ANY of the Khorne stuff.

The Blight Drones from FW look much better!

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 Leth wrote:
Still if you hate it that is fine. but if you could keep the insults of people who may enjoy it to a minimum that would be much appreciated. Things like "Only a blind idiot would like this" or "What kind of dumbass would spend money on this stuff"

Know I am going to get flamed for this but figured I would try anyway.

Someone probably will take you up on that, but not me. I agree. It's not a race for 'most over the top statement of dislike'.

However, whether you're talking about Dakka or the overall interwebz, hate is quite comfortable here. It strolls in casually, grabs a brew from the refrigerator, plops down in the La-Z-Boy recliner, and starts flipping through channels while scratching its nuts.

*shrug* Hate circlejerks are kind of what the interwebz does.

Personally, I think these models look in line with the current Daemon aesthetic. Which may or may not be everyone's cup of tea. The Khorne chariot(s) looks over the top, but then IT'S A GW MODEL, and hardly the most OTT thing we've seen the past couple years. I think the sculpting quality will appear better with better pics. Remember how people hated on the plastic Plaguebearers at first, and those proved to be far better sculpts than the previous version.

@Meade -- you realize that these ARE primarily fantasy kits, right?

 Meade wrote:
It also seems like they are going further down the road of, cartoony kits that look more at home in fantasy or warmachine than 40k. Did they not get the memo that their fantasy game is not as popular as their sci-fi game? No good.

In what way would these fit in Warmahordes?

Or have I just risen to another I'll informed snipe at PP...

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@Meade -- you realize that these ARE primarily fantasy kits, right?

It's a dual release for fantasy and 40k, and these are kits right? correct me if I'm wrong.

 Meade wrote:

gorgon wrote:


@Meade -- you realize that these ARE primarily fantasy kits, right?

It's a dual release for fantasy and 40k, and these are kits right? correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure all of these models will end up having a use in 40k and Fantasy, just like how Daemons kits currently work.

I like the Khorne Herald a lot, it's a cool pose and he looks nice and menacing.

Um.

Yeah. That's about all I want to say about this. Some...odd...choices there. I like my daemons scary rather than comedic.

Well, this is a pretty poor release, IMO. The Tzeentch chariot (the one without the gakky flames all over it) is the only model I'm even remotely interested in buying.

Oh, but to say I like the model is not to say I like him to the tune of 20 euros, which is parody pricing.

Warhammer: Daemons of Chaos $49.50
Codex: Chaos Daemons $49.50

Don't play these so no expendature from me. In fact, the only thing I'm likely to buy are the spell/psychic cards. Ah, well. More money to Malifaux.

Chaos Daemons: Plague Drones of Nurgle

I agree with Kroothawk, these look like Lucas' anti-semetic hummingbird.

Chaos Daemons: Burning Chariot of Tzeentch/Herald of Tzeentch on Burning Chariot of Tzeentch

Now I'm agreeing with Savageconvoy. It just doesn't look like what it's being called. Then again, I've never liked the look of Tzeench demons. Besides, don't the Tau have the corner on the fish thing? Regardless, the Herald model looks better but not enough for me to buy one.

Chaos Daemons: Blood Throne of Khorne/Skull Cannon of Khorne

I don't mind the Blood Throne but the Skull Cannon is just silly.

Herald of Nurgle

Less offensive than other Nurgle "giggling imps" sculpts but still reminds me of 2nd Edition goofyness.

Herald of Khorne

A model that I actually like. Don't know if I'll get one or not. Putting this in the "maybe" column for now.

Herald of Slaanesh

Really wish they'd move away from the he-she motif.

I suppose we should be glad they didn't have a $85.00 in this release, too.

Yeah, so these are released meant for both 40k and fantasy. My point is about the styling. The Khorne Chariots and Nurgle flies look like something out of a Dr. Suess cartoon. Huge sweeping curves everywhere, oversized, cartoonish details. I don't like it, so I'm writing about how I don't like it on the internet.

The new models are a mixed bag. I like the Tzeench chariot. The characters are alright, but not different enough from regular daemons to justify spending more money on them. I would just convert a regular daemon. I do not like the Nurgle flies. The Khorne Chariot is just aweful. It is worse than the dog Khorn juggernaut. Although I have fond memories of that model.

Those flies are awful.

And hilarious at the same time.

Well now, just when I decide to play the New Chaos Marines in 40k with Demon allies they get new rules.

But I also see that Fantasy Demons are going to get cannons now, I may even have to go back to play the game again just for that.

The only question is whether or not to model my Khorne Cannons coming out of the crotch of a Bloodthirster on a chariot base...

I really am waiting to see with the flies. I think a lot of the new releases are suffering from bad paint jobs (Forsaken for instance). One there is a clear view of the models all around and some sprue pictures, I am hoping the flies look better. I really want them to look better....

Otherwise, the sculpting of "magicness" or the "warp energies" is rarely successful. I dig the individual models, but the chariots leave a little to be desired. Though, I may change my tune once these get into the hands of people who are able to make small conversions and better paint jobs. (i.e. Helldrake looked way crazy until I saw what people were able to do with it - now I want 15 of them)

Hate to create a precedent here, but I somewhat agree with H.B.M.C. and Kroothawk. Although I have never really been a fan of Daemons, I was not impressed with these. I don't think they are quite as bad as people like to say, but I definitely have no desire to get them.

 WarOne wrote:
The Blight Drones from FW look much better!

QFT! I honestly thought they were converting over the FW ones into a plastic kit as they've done in the past ...

Have to agree on all the WTF?! model posts ... but it's not so totally bad to me. The Khorne stuff is decent because it's unified around the revamped bloodletter body design, which I happen to like, so all Khorne will look solid and cohesive on the field - and also even more doable with a cannonchariot to replace the magicks And the Nurgle infantry continues to make me happy, adding the new plastic herald to the already solid plastic plague bearers (again, I'm a fan), and even cute lil' revamped swarmy nurgling swarms. But the flies are indeed totally stupid.

- Salvage

At least this release is a great inspiration ... for sarcastic comments
Hey look! They even released a Nurgle Drone keychain for fans!

 TBD wrote:
My small cousin just asked why those tall flying green guys have such huge ballsacks and penis hanging under them

Okay, I give up, nothing can beat this comment

Concerning Khorne: When did Khorne daemons stop being brutal and frighening fighting machines? The bloodletters are just stupidly grinning skinnies with a too large sword, probably with a high pitched squeaky voice. And both Khorne chariots look funny, not menacing. The cannon is something, children would love to mount on a roundabout. IMHO they missed the Khorne character with this and several previous releases.

 Kroothawk wrote:

Concerning Khorne: When did Khorne daemons stop being brutal and frighening fighting machines? The bloodletters are just stupidly grinning skinnies with a too large sword, probably with a high pitched squeaky voice.

The Bloodletter look is a return to the original bloodletters from Realm of Chaos, I actually really like them with their long heads and gangly limbs. That's how they originally were.

The Bloodletter herald forgeworld do (with the daemon prince) is one of my favorite models.

 Boss Salvage wrote:

 WarOne wrote:
The Blight Drones from FW look much better!

QFT! I honestly thought they were converting over the FW ones into a plastic kit as they've done in the past ...

Have to agree on all the WTF?! model posts ... but it's not so totally bad to me. The Khorne stuff is decent because it's unified around the revamped bloodletter body design, which I happen to like, so all Khorne will look solid and cohesive on the field - and also even more doable with a cannonchariot to replace the magicks And the Nurgle infantry continues to make me happy, adding the new plastic herald to the already solid plastic plague bearers (again, I'm a fan), and even cute lil' revamped swarmy nurgling swarms. But the flies are indeed totally stupid.

- Salvage

I wonder what the size/rules of these new models will be and if I can just use the FW models as them.