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So, I've been seeing a lot of posts about people quitting 40k and getting into other games. In our area we almost completely switched to Warmachine. But I was curious to know if that's really a worldwide trend, or just an usual internet hate thing.

EDIT: The question is about your recent preferences; of course, they can change later, new events can bring you back to 40k, etc.

Why isn't there an option that I play and enjoy both and not get so damn worried about who I hate most because of perceived misdeeds?

I've been through edition change after edition change, price rise after price rise since the beginning. It's the way of things with GW, and this is my less expensive hobby. Combat robotics is a hell of a lot pricier..

I quit WHFB, because i lost interest in it.

I'm still kicking in 40K, and plan to remain so.


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I'm ALSO into Warmachine

One can play both, you know

Why isn't there an option that I play and enjoy both and not get so damn worried about who I hate most because of perceived misdeeds?

That's the first option.

People who leave GW systems don't always stay away. I have left GW for years, only to return again down the road. There is a lot to not like about GW, just as there are many strong points.

I like 40k and can afford to continue to enjoy it.

People who leave GW systems don't always stay away.

Sure. I'm interested in current state of things. It may be completely different next year.

it's just like threatening to leave home when you're a kid we all know it's done for effect and they'll be back in no time

I guess I've stopped playing for a while due to time but I have no plans on quitting so long as I can still enjoy a game with firends every so often

I don't play 40K very often these days, but as I keep saying, you don't need 40K to play 40K.

While I used to be a 40k only gamer, the price hikes made me re-evaluate the industry. While I didn't find a replacement for 40k, I was exposed to a whole lot of games. I ended up starting infinity after seeing the models. My want for a Fantasy game led me right back to Warhammer Fantasy, far more expensive than 40k.

What I also realised was no games are really replacements for each other. The market is quite saturated right now, but the majority of the games all scratch different itches, even among close games like 40k/Fantasy and Warmahordes, and infinity/malifaux/mercs.

I'm quite happy playing multiple games. I see no reason to play favourites.

I switched games but it was several years ago. I started out hoping to keep 40k as an option but as time went on I drifted away from it. It I was about seven years ago I picked up a different game and about two years ago I finally sold off my 40k armies after not having played them for a full edition and having all my desire to slowly die out.

So is quitting a trend? Maybe but it is certainly nothing new. Perhaps happening to more people in a shorter time span these days.

I've ALWAYS had at least two games going at a time and I suppose it helps that GW wasn't my introduction to the hobby of tabletop miniatures.

At first it was Battletech and modern period (cold war 80s) in 20mm, then it was Battletech and WHFB, Battletech and 40k, then it was 40k and one miniatures game or another, and now it's Infinity and WHFB. 40k has finally fallen by the wayside and will be replaced by Tomorrow's War.

Limiting myself to one game or company is sooooo straightjacketing, I've found.

I think you will always get more people leave 40k than other systems as 1) it's most people's introduction to war gaming, and 2) it's bigger so if even the same percent leave 40k as infinity, the numbers are bigger.

I play a lot less 40k these days as I like more 'adult' games, like FoW and infinity

Left WHFB with 8th as it made the game fully luck-based and took most skill-driven elements out of the equation, but still rock with my Necrons since 3rd.

 chromedog wrote:
Limiting myself to one game or company is sooooo straightjacketing, I've found.

This is true.

For the longest time I was GW only. Everything I had was 100% GW and I hated 'counts as' and I really proxying (I'm one of those WYSIWYG nuts who simply won't field something if I don't own it). I have oodles of BattleTech stuff, but when it came to GW games (40K, Necromunda, etc.) it was all GW all the way.

Four things changed this:

1. The embargo. I was content to live with GW's insane prices because I could get a 50% discount by ordering from the UK. I can still get a 40% discount by ordering from the US, but the embargo killed it for me. I've never been so annoyed at a company, so I actually began to look elsewhere.
2. I saw these. Now, granted, at the time there weren't as many (maybe less than half what you see there), but as a massive Delaque fan this represented something very new to me - actual new Delaque models. I ordered all of them.
3. We started playing Dark Heresy. We started playing Dark Heresy as much as we used to play 40K, and I wanted to expand my miniature collection to cover the things in the various DH books (we do almost everything with miniatures, and thankfully having such an extensive Necromunda collection and an Inquisitorial army helped quite a bit here).
4. I wanted an Ad-Mech army. This ties into number 3 above. I wanted to be able to use Skitarii and whatnot Dark Heresy, and I wanted Praetorian Battle Servitors. And I came across these guys, and also these guys. Again, I bought heaps, spend ages converting the big ones to have heavy weapons, and based a whole new army around them (my near-complete 'Counts As' AdMech army). Flash forward three years and my experiences from using these 'Counts As' AdMech forces are now part of the actual official Dark Heresy rules.


And now I have more minis from many other places. I have pieces from more companies I can think of, have 4 incoming Relic Knight factions from the Kickstarter, and got Zombicide and Sedition Wars and the Bones thing and all sorts of stuff I never thought I'd get involved in.

Unshackling myself from GW's miniatures (whilst ironically shackling myself to their universe via FFG), has made for better games. I still won't do 'Counts As' Marines or anything like that, and I still won't field the things I don't own (don't own a Deathwatch Marine with a Meltagun... then I won't take one!), but I get all these minis from all the other companies to play around with!

I quit wargaming completely years ago & now only collect & occasionally paint stuff.

In fairness though, my main reason for quitting was lack of space, lack of local opponents (no transport), and lack of support for specialist games.

I used to be a GW only guy, but as prices kept rising, I bought less & less stuff, mostly only limited edition, but since the switch to finecast, I've even stopped buying those now, so my main purchases from GW are paint, BL books & occasional Epic.

Since I started on forums, my eyes have been opened, and I now own a fair amount of FoW figures, a few PSC sets, and some Dystopian Wars models, all of which I find to be of excellent quality.

I still love 40K background, but I'm becoming increasingly frustrated with the business practises of GW.

When I started GW wasn't the big fish it is now.
We player all manner of games, mainly small games long lost to the mists of time, and others such as Mechwarrior.

I mainly play 40k, but I play pretty much anything else that interests me.
My friends and I have drifted in and out of many systems.
Sometimes 40k is in the ascendant, sometimes WFB. FoW was top dog for quite some time, as have been Warmahordes, Urban War, Epic, Blood Bowl, Necromunda, and many others.

When I started wargaming in the mid-90s, GW was the pinnacle of coolness. If you could play Warhammer, tou were awesome. Now, it seems as though GW players are a bunch of whining little nellies, always complaining that their lists were handicapped by stupid rules and Mat Ward. I put a lot of the blame of Magic and the tournament circuits. Before tourneys were a big deal, PEOPLE played games for (gasp!) FUN?!?!??

GW is one of the oldest companies in the business. They have been making some boneheaded decisions as of late, but what corporatikns aren't lately?

I have put the offer out there to the complainers that solitaire is a good, cheap game, but I have yet to see any takers...

Of course have kept all my 40k/WFB stuff, but play a whole slew of different games these days.

Don't understand why there seems to be an 'either/or' attitude towards gaming systems to be honest. We should count ourselves lucky that there are so many options, something to suit all tastes, and we are like people stood underneath a fruit tree and able to pick and choose what we want to munch on

I have to wargame on a limited budget. So, when they rose the prices on nearly all minis, AND came out with a new ruleset that was even more expensive than any single rule book i've seen before, my wife basically told me to quit (though I told her I already decided that)

I haven't quite wargaming, I have just found alternatives. Now, I am able to play WM/H, Hell Dorado, and Malifaux, and all for a much better piece of my gaming budget than I ever got from 40k.


@SoloFalcon Yep, solitaire is amazing, and I play on occasion (even the 'analog' version too) and when it came to it, the frustration of dealing with my wife after a night of gaming, OR if I even mentioned to her that I was eyeing another model led to finding a cheaper source of gaming.

I was GW only for a long time with all the classic grumbles that brings, but the last two years have seen me move away from GW into lots of other games.

Gave up fantasy with 8th as I played it for a while, but just wasn't keen on the "kill it with magic" style of game.

Still play 40K sometimes and enjoy it, but I spend the time building scenarios and basically only playing it the way I want to (basically the chaos & fun of second edition style missions).

Big thing forme was the cost of new codices & army books. I had 8 armies for WFB and 4 for 40K at one point and there was no way in hell that I was going to be spending out £22.50 (at that point) for new army books knowing full well that the prices were only going to go up and up as I waited for the new books (£30 now, I see).

As a result, I flogged loads of stuff on the bay and only kept the stuff I really wanted - mainly the armies I'd had since I started back in 91ish. Everything else was out of the door.

Is it a trend? Dunno, but my local club has seen a serious downturn in the amount of spending going GW's way and far more games and companies being played now, which is for the better.

I've quit 40k. Got in just as 5th edition came in, and it was solid fun. Or course, GW's been getting worse and worse over the years, but what finally killed it for me was just how bad 6th edition was for me. Despite the price gouging and terrible customer relations, what finally finished it for me was that I just didn't even have fun with the game at that point.

I still enjoy miniature converting/painting/gaming, but now I'm into other things. Right now, I have my eye on Infinity and DnD (and the upcoming Kingdom Death Monster has me filled with antici... ...pation) . I may come back to 40k if 7th edition isn't as much of a chore to play as 6th is, but that's a long time off.

I barely play WHFB but I prefer sci fi games. Still die hard 40k and Epic, have picked up Malifaux and Infinity. My woodelves are a back of the closest army.

Is quitting GW a trend? Not in my area. Sure everyone "finds the next best" thing to replace the evil GW game of 40k and eagerly preaches it to everyone they see buying 40k at the check out. The list of flops is endless: Dysotopian Wars, Confrontation, Dust, Drop Zone Commander....in the end all the GW haters blow loads of money on these games only to come back to the 40k every time.

I love GW. They gave me a great hobby and let me meet loads of people I'd have never met. Some of the business decision the company makes seem dumb to me, but overall they deliver high quality models and stability. What do I mean by stability? Simply put, I can go into virtually any FLGS anywhere in my state and pick up a 40k or WHFB game every time. I'm lucky to do half as well finding WM games. The awesome 40k artwork and fluff keep in in love of GW's universe.

I am not against playing non-GW games, I've just been mostly disappointed by them or the people who play them. I never see a 40k player demean a WM player for collecting Cygnar, but as soon as I buy a Falcon for my Eldar I am "Supporting the evil empire". It's funny to see "G'dub Haters get worked up. I just do not see what the big deal it. We are gamers, we play to have fun. To some that means tourney's and others it means casual fluff battles but the end desire is the same. There is a enough crap in the world to worry about, so why make a big deal about what company's toy soldiers you play with? I have both PP and GW armies because I like the models, but I will pick game of Fantasy or 40k over WM anytime due to better fluff.

I do not see quitting GW as a trend in my area. There will be always be "G'dub haters" but who cares?

Cheers,
TSL

I played WH40k for a long while when I was younger back in the 4th edition days. We got 5th and stopped playing all together sometime after that. Spent most of my free time on console gaming and more recently, cars. I also played battletech with a group of guys for a bit but that died off. But 6th edition came out and despite some issues that both my mate and I have had army-wise we both have had fun playing the few games we did. And now I've got one of my employees back into it. Hopefully after christmas time we can get back to playing regularly. There also seems to be quite a crew playing locally.

I've also found X-wing to be a great use of my time. Mainly because it is really easy to play, quick and mostly balanced.(except for one empire setup, the rest of the style lists play well against each other.)

My mate wants to pick up Heavy Gear. Giving how cheap it seems to be I am game for it. It also gives me a solid mech game back.

Interesting choice of language there, a lot of use of the word 'hate', but then what else to expect from a Sith Lord?

I will say again: why the artificial divide between games systems? Why do people feel the need to treat it like they are supporting a football team and rail against their 'enemies' ?

Interesting choice of language there, a lot of use of the word 'hate', but then what else to expect from a Sith Lord?

I take that as a compliment. After all, how can one properly nerd-rage if one does not deal in absolutes?

I will say again: why the artificial divide between games systems? Why do people feel the need to treat it like they are supporting a football team and rail against their 'enemies' ?

I still do not get the animosity between groups. It reminds me of the flame wars between tourney players about "Comp vs. No Comp". I play to have fun. When I was younger I took gaming too seriously and wanted to win no matter what. Now, I just enjoy the battle with its moments of ridiculous luck and awesome heroics. I play WM solely because I like the models for Searforge, that's it. The rules are nice, but there is no room my creativity unlike 40k where I can DIY all day long. In the end I guess I do not care about the animosity as I just won;t play against people with a negative attitude regardless of what system we use.

I started playing 40k in 2nd edition and quit about a 9 months ago. Just felt that 40k had run its course with me and went into better games with better rule sets

why the artificial divide between games systems

Well, for one thing, you need to invest considerable time and money to get into one of major games (40k or WMH for sure).

Then there's a situation like when there's like 5 guys in our area who are interested in wargames, and they mostly like one single thing. Oh, and they can be super competitive and do not like fun, that's one of the reasons I pestered and annoyed them for like half a year to make them even try Warmachine, next thing you know - Warmachine is their new only thing, 40k is suddenly boring and being sold because noone plays it. I kinda want to try Infinity now, but I don't even want to think how much time it will take

So there are valid situations for a single game choice.

I've quit 40k solely on cost basis, I've played Orks since 2nd, but it's getting to the point now where I would like to expand into other forces, but the buy-in cost for me is now way too high to make it worth my time (considering my hobby budget it typically <£15 per month).

I still love 40k, but if GW wants my attention anymore they are seriously going to have to lower their prices.

I want to move into other games, but I just haven't found one that seems to have:

the right pricing levels

an abundance of enthusiastic, local players

Tried Bushido, seemed to be a lot of love when it came out and largely ignored now. Tried Dystopian wars, love the models, hate the pace of the game (one of the slowest-to-play rulesets IMHO). Would like to get into something like Relics/etc, but it seems difficult to drum up interest for anything outside 40K/FoW...

8th ed. Fantasy is just plain bad. 6th ed. 40k is very similar and an obvious money grab so I stopped playing both. I still have the models because I like them, but playing just isn't fun.