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2013/01/10 03:27:00
Subject: Re:Dark Angels Advance Orders up on GW homepage
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Fixture of Dakka
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 d-usa wrote: shrike wrote:I quite like the infantry models if it weren't for a few minor details on them- the sword and wings everywhere, for instance- yes, those are your symbols, fine. But there's like 5 icons per model.
So you'd like the Dark Angels if they were just a little less Dark Angelish? 
well, one or two icons are fine, but they just scream "IMMA DARK ANGEL." at you- I had the same problem with death company, though it's just personal preference.
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JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles.
corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day.
greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid. |
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2013/01/10 03:40:04
Subject: Dark Angels Advance Orders up on GW homepage
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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There is such a thing as OTT detail, where every surface is covered in the stuff.
Any I get I plan on turning into Deathwatch Termies anyway... so that presents a bigger problem.
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2013/01/10 08:26:15
Subject: Re:Dark Angels Advance Orders up on GW homepage
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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Few interesting snippets...
Basic marine squads come with a built in/paid for Serg, but he is NOT a veteran, so is LD8. You can pay for him to be a veteran with the higher Ld.
Tactical marines that have 5-9 bodies in can buy either a special weapon OR a heavy weapon. At 10 you can buy both. IIRC a 10 man squad with Vet. serg, special and heavy works out about 10 points cheaper than a vanilla tactical squad.
Assault squads have no melta gun option, plasma pistol and flamers only ( serg. could take a combi weapon I think..). I guess this is so it matches the box set ?
Techmarines can now fortify any terrain piece in their deployment area, not just ruins.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2013/01/10 08:27:11
Subject: Re:Dark Angels Advance Orders up on GW homepage
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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 reds8n wrote:
Techmarines can now fortify any terrain piece in their deployment area, not just ruins.
That alone is a very nice fix.
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2013/01/10 08:38:42
Subject: Re:Dark Angels Advance Orders up on GW homepage
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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hell yeah !
They're "slot free" too, one per HQ,.. 50 points IIRC ?
I think a 5 man tactical squad, with missile launcher and flakk missiles comes to 95 points. So I can see almost a return to 4th edition time with lots of 5 man squads sat in cover firing heavy weapons at the enemy tanks whilst elite and/or fast attack units mop up the enemy. 
Does read very much as if this book is being presented as the default usethisfornow book for regular marines, but YMMV.
Azrael can choose which DA warlord trait he takes or, presumably ( going from what's written in the BRB) roll on the regular tables in the BRB.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2013/01/10 08:40:55
Subject: Re:Dark Angels Advance Orders up on GW homepage
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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reds8n wrote: hell yeah !
They're "slot free" too, one per HQ,.. 50 points IIRC ?
I think a 5 man tactical squad, with missile launcher and flakk missiles comes to 95 points. So I can see almost a return to 4th edition time with lots of 5 man squads sat in cover firing heavy weapons at the enemy tanks whilst elite and/or fast attack units mop up the enemy.
Scouts still there? I love me a Techmarine with Sniper/Camocloak scouts, nothing like a 2+ save to frustrate people.
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2013/01/10 08:44:14
Subject: Dark Angels Advance Orders up on GW homepage
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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This sounds like fun.
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2013/01/10 08:50:48
Subject: Re:Dark Angels Advance Orders up on GW homepage
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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Scouts are indeed there, 99% certain camo cloaks are an option.
.. there's also .. err..... some form of "night goggles" -- can't recall who can buy them, maybe scouts though ? -- which lets them ignore night fight but makes them more vulnerable to "Blind" attacks.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2013/01/10 08:55:14
Subject: Dark Angels Advance Orders up on GW homepage
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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They're not called Nightvox? Or Shroudvox? Or... dare I say it... Darkvision? Just "night goggles". Bit lame. Not the idea (which is a bit unnecessary but whatever), but the name.
Maybe Scouts will be worth a damn in a DA army then. That can't be a bad thing. Maybe this is their "Sorry for making them Elites! We don't know what Jervis was thinking!" apology. 
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2013/01/10 08:55:39
Subject: Re:Dark Angels Advance Orders up on GW homepage
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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reds8n wrote: Scouts are indeed there, 99% certain camo cloaks are an option.
.. there's also .. err..... some form of "night goggles" -- can't recall who can buy them, maybe scouts though ? -- which lets them ignore night fight but makes them more vulnerable to "Blind" attacks.
Sounds interesting. I'll have to give it a look whenever I can. I've been playing my Raven Guard using the Vanilla 'dex, but all I am really using out of it are scouts, scout bikes, and HQ. I know everybody is excited about "wing this and wing that", but if the core is solid I might give it a try. Automatically Appended Next Post:  H.B.M.C. wrote:
Maybe Scouts will be worth a damn in a DA army then. That can't be a bad thing. Maybe this is their "Sorry for making them Elites! We don't know what Jervis was thinking!" apology.
Scouts can be decent in Vanilla dex, you just have to max them
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2013/01/10 09:01:07
Subject: Re:Dark Angels Advance Orders up on GW homepage
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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"Infravisor" or something like that ? It sounded alright, no "dark goggles of black noireness. wing" or anything.
.. term sounded familiar anyway...maybe from the RPG books ? Could just be the way they've constructed the name of course.
10 man termie squads cannot combat squad, which is a relief and after a brief rules check I was quite relieved to find that the split fire rule only lets one fire a single weapon at a different target.
Libbys are dirt cheap, around 65 points IIRC.
Chaplains, in true GW fashion , manage to acquire the fearless rule in at least 2, possibly even 3 ways.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2013/01/10 09:04:32
Subject: Dark Angels Advance Orders up on GW homepage
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Tough-as-Nails Ork Boy
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Can a 10-man Deathwing Terminator Squad *combat squad* into two 5-man units?
EDIT: D'oh! Ninja'd. Well, there goes the chance for some real utility for DW Squads. Very inane to not have included it.
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2013/01/10 09:06:07
Subject: Dark Angels Advance Orders up on GW homepage
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Photovisors? Preysense Goggles?
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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2013/01/10 09:11:21
Subject: Re:Dark Angels Advance Orders up on GW homepage
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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Pretty certain it was infravisors.
Can't recall who can take them but we were thinking they'd be good on a techmarine with either devs. or scouts in the now obligatory fortified ruin/terrain piece.
... You thought it was a bit odd that every army went to battle with 12 odd foot of wall, wait until you see dark Angels deploying with their armoured bushes !
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2013/01/10 09:13:08
Subject: Dark Angels Advance Orders up on GW homepage
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Mysterious Terrain. Iron Bark (or whatever it's called). Fortified.
What would that do?
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2013/01/10 09:13:12
Subject: Re:Dark Angels Advance Orders up on GW homepage
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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reds8n wrote:You thought it was a bit odd that every army went to battle with 12 odd foot of wall, wait until you see dark Angels deploying with their armoured bushes !
So they can ally with Sisters?
/rimshot
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2013/01/10 09:27:06
Subject: Re:Dark Angels Advance Orders up on GW homepage
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Terrifying Treeman
The Fallen Realm of Umbar
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d-usa wrote: reds8n wrote:You thought it was a bit odd that every army went to battle with 12 odd foot of wall, wait until you see dark Angels deploying with their armoured bushes !
So they can ally with Sisters?
/rimshot
Bad-um tsh
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Horst wrote:This is how trolling happens. A few cheeky posts are made. Then they get more insulting. Eventually, we revert to our primal animal state, hurling feces at each other while shreeking with glee.
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2013/01/10 09:33:53
Subject: Re:Dark Angels Advance Orders up on GW homepage
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Nasty Nob
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reds8n wrote: "Infravisor" or something like that ? It sounded alright, no "dark goggles of black noireness. wing" or anything.
.. term sounded familiar anyway...maybe from the RPG books ? Could just be the way they've constructed the name of course.
Weren't they called infra-visors in the original Rogue Trader? I seem to recall you could get contact lenses which worked the same way too...
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2013/01/10 10:56:43
Subject: Dark Angels Advance Orders up on GW homepage
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Mysterious Terrain. Iron Bark (or whatever it's called). Fortified.
What would that do?
Well, it's a 1/6 chance.
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2013/01/10 11:00:55
Subject: Re:Dark Angels Advance Orders up on GW homepage
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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reds8n wrote: Techmarines can now fortify any terrain piece in their deployment area, not just ruins.
Fortified Aegis Defence Lines?
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Interceptor Drones can disembark at any point during the Sun Shark's move (even though models cannot normally disembark from Zooming Flyers).
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2013/01/10 11:02:45
Subject: Re:Dark Angels Advance Orders up on GW homepage
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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..is that not a fortification as opposed to a terrain piece ?
... oh well least we've got 1 argument already then eh ?
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2013/01/10 11:06:33
Subject: Dark Angels Advance Orders up on GW homepage
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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It's considered "Battlefield Debris (Defence Lines)" so I'm fairly certain it's no different to any other terrain.
I mean, you would probably want to ally in something else to really get use out of the 3+ cover save (or maybe ally a DA Techmarine into your main army), but it seems pretty nasty, and it never hurts to have your space marines shrug off plasma and lascannons like they are nothing.
edit: Even better, fly a Darkshroud around behind it too for Stealth and you are looking at 2+ cover.
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Interceptor Drones can disembark at any point during the Sun Shark's move (even though models cannot normally disembark from Zooming Flyers).
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2013/01/10 12:32:47
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Terrifying Treeman
The Fallen Realm of Umbar
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 Drunkspleen wrote:It's considered "Battlefield Debris (Defence Lines)" so I'm fairly certain it's no different to any other terrain.
I mean, you would probably want to ally in something else to really get use out of the 3+ cover save (or maybe ally a DA Techmarine into your main army), but it seems pretty nasty, and it never hurts to have your space marines shrug off plasma and lascannons like they are nothing.
edit: Even better, fly a Darkshroud around behind it too for Stealth and you are looking at 2+ cover.
It
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Horst wrote:This is how trolling happens. A few cheeky posts are made. Then they get more insulting. Eventually, we revert to our primal animal state, hurling feces at each other while shreeking with glee.
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2013/01/10 14:17:54
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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So much for "greenwing isn't getting anything."
This book is shaping up very nicely.
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2013/01/10 15:46:53
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
Lost in the warp while searching for a new codex
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gorgon wrote:So much for "greenwing isn't getting anything."
This book is shaping up very nicely.
Yes, 14 pts for a marine is ok even with stubborn.
Not sure what they were thinking with the lsv tho. Not Only is the model bad, 140ps för anything on a ls chassi is not worth it.
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I cannot believe in a God who wants to be praised all the time.
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2013/01/10 16:12:42
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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Can Sammael take a bike? Or does he have to ride the jetbike?
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 BlaxicanX wrote:A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
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2013/01/10 16:19:54
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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The people posting the 'leaks' are on different sites. I haven't seen anyone here posting direct leaks.
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2013/01/10 16:27:34
Subject: Dark Angels Advance Orders up on GW homepage
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It's just 2 days when the Codex comes out officially. Patience folks...
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Mr Vetock, give back my Multi-tracker! |
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2013/01/10 17:17:51
Subject: Re:Dark Angels Advance Orders up on GW homepage
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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d-usa wrote: reds8n wrote: hell yeah !
They're "slot free" too, one per HQ,.. 50 points IIRC ?
I think a 5 man tactical squad, with missile launcher and flakk missiles comes to 95 points. So I can see almost a return to 4th edition time with lots of 5 man squads sat in cover firing heavy weapons at the enemy tanks whilst elite and/or fast attack units mop up the enemy.
Scouts still there? I love me a Techmarine with Sniper/Camocloak scouts, nothing like a 2+ save to frustrate people.
Yeah, that sounds really fantastic! Automatically Appended Next Post: d-usa wrote: reds8n wrote:You thought it was a bit odd that every army went to battle with 12 odd foot of wall, wait until you see dark Angels deploying with their armoured bushes !
So they can ally with Sisters?
/rimshot
I see what you did there!
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2013/01/10 17:55:17
Subject: Dark Angels Advance Orders up on GW homepage
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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I'm excited about the Salvo Banner. I'm seeing way, way to many awesome uses for this thing....
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