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 Slaanesh-Devotee wrote:
I want those Noisemarine Terminators...

*Lick* Mine!
(Well i probably don't need to lick them as i tend to lick my tools. So my salvia is already all over them ... )

 Snrub wrote:
Excuse me while i mash the subscribe button repeatedly.

Thanks. But please don't break it. There might be other who still need the button.(at least i hope)


And look what i did today:



Well. It isn't much but at least i dusted up some of my paint pots and tested how bad my brush control degraded. I also tried some very light blending (some is visible on the reaper autocannon shoulder. And i am somewhat amazed that the grey skin on the orc didn't look too bad on picture. I thought it would be much worse.
It isn't much but at least a start.

What's your opinion on the grey skin?

Is it just primed grey? Please be primed grey and then painted grey.

Also, why grey skin on Orks? It's pretty interesting, but I don't understand it since I can't see Slaanesh Orks.

Loving the progress on the noise weapons and the termies

 Deunstephe wrote:
Is it just primed grey? Please be primed grey and then painted grey.

Also, why grey skin on Orks? It's pretty interesting, but I don't understand it since I can't see Slaanesh Orks.

He indeed is primed grey. And i use my orks only to test some skin painting schemes before i ruin my csm. As a result i have some very strange colored orks. Those are just the ones from the aobr box that i never used.

I painted a little bit again. I felt comfortable enough to work on my test model some more. I added some more details and used washes on him. I think he turned out good enough to use this scheme for the rest of my army.
What do you think?



And i'll plug in another model. It is only in a very early stage of basecoloring but i wanted to show this older piece i did. One of my earlier scratchbuilds(only head and shoulder were GW bitz). And yes, the backpack is scratchbuild too. Only the vents are cut from a normal backpack.
I really like how she levitates as she is only attached to the base with those energy blasts from her hands.


And finaly for today the current state of the cableing and weapon. The only thing that needs some work is his powerfist.

The paint jobs look beautiful! I'm really digging the purple/gold scheme, looks really nice

Hi,
I am really liking your sculpts, they are really good! I'e never really used muillput to sculpt with before only just for a diroma as it cheaper than GS! I may have to try that! Your army is really aweispring stuff dude! I was also wandering if you could share any words of wisdom on sculpting too?

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HAZZER.

 HAZZER wrote:
Hi,
I am really liking your sculpts, they are really good! I'e never really used muillput to sculpt with before only just for a diroma as it cheaper than GS! I may have to try that! Your army is really aweispring stuff dude! I was also wandering if you could share any words of wisdom on sculpting too?

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HAZZER.

Thanks.
To be honest with my current sculpting skills i wouldn't suggest pure milliput as sculpting putty. Yes i used it successfull but it has some flaws. One way to use it is as a cheap basic shape of a sculpt. Mush it around your armature to build it up and do the final details onto it.
But what works amazingly well for me is adding GS into milliput. Even in a ratio of GS : Milliput of 1:3 the change to the workeability is nice. And it is still cheaper than GS but has more flexibility as pure milliput and still retains the ability for sharp edges. The other way (ratio 3:1) works also very well. The GS looses some of it's "memory" and as such can be used to create sharper details. On top of that it gains sandability.
But without the "memory" to much pressure with your tools will leave marks quite quickly. So smoothing is the main problem and focus. And clay shaper tools might be a good investion.(But aren't needed, a basic metal tool still works fine if you use it with more care.)

And some very general tipps and stuff on sculpting besides milliput/gs mixing:

1) Wet your tools slightly to avoid sticking to the putty. But don't use to much or you'll flood your model and nothing will stick. I lick my tools(more controll and salvia isn't as flowing as water) but wet cloth works too.

2)There are two ways of sculpting similar to painting. Layering and blending.
- Layering: Layering is needed for all self hardening putty (milliput, GS and the like) As the putty has a limited sculpting time don't do to much in one go. Add details only after the surface(for example armor) is smoothed and relatively hardened. Don't doing this will lead to uneven armor and warped details while smoothing around them.
- Blending: Oven baking putty/clay can be worked with indefinitely until you bake them. So you can sculpt away and blend new details into the rest of the model. Errors or mismatching details can be corrected. This is especially nice if you want to sculpt larger organic stuff. I have only limited experience with this technic so i can't say much about it. But you can mix both. Sculpt the basic shape with baking clay and layer additional details onto it.

3) Use references. I learned much about sculpting as i tried to recreate already existing HQ units while only using very basic models.

And most important:
4) Don't get jealous over the work of others but better ask yourself. "How had he/she created this and how can i recreate it?". Learn from the success and knowledge of others.

I'll stop my ranting here. If you still want to know more I'll direct you to these.
http://fromthewarp.blogspot.de/p/archives-and-tutorials.html

http://natfka.blogspot.de/2012/05/how-to-sculpt-1-tools-of-trade-by-mr.html
http://natfka.blogspot.de/2012/05/how-to-sculpt-2-pushing-putty-by-mr.html
http://natfka.blogspot.de/2012/05/how-to-sculpt-3-sculpting-skills.html
http://natfka.blogspot.de/2012/06/how-to-sculpt-4-what-to-buy.html

 btldoomhammer wrote:

 Deunstephe wrote:
Is it just primed grey? Please be primed grey and then painted grey.

Also, why grey skin on Orks? It's pretty interesting, but I don't understand it since I can't see Slaanesh Orks.

He indeed is primed grey. And i use my orks only to test some skin painting schemes before i ruin my csm. As a result i have some very strange colored orks. Those are just the ones from the aobr box that i never used.

Oh thank goodness. I hate it when people paint directly onto plastic.

congratulations!
I love your imagination and madness!

Another painting update just to show you that i actually did bring myself to paint again. And to be honest i actually like how it's looks.

Posting those pics is also a good way of showing my older stuff that i didn't take a picture off before priming. Now with color you can actually recognize some details.




I also worked on the champion of my noise terminator and added her massive sword-axe thingy. She only needs some work on the sword handle and she is done.


And can you guess what this sculpt was supposed to be? It is an earlier one of mine and not warhammer related. But it still amazes me how well it looks - even more if you take into consideration that i wasn't that experienced then. This just shows how important a good reference can be.
So can you guess who see is?

Queen of Blades?

I'm right, aren't I?

Can we get some close ups on your earlier works please? They look outstanding!

 ghosty wrote:
Queen of Blades?

I'm right, aren't I?

Can we get some close ups on your earlier works please? They look outstanding!

You are right.
I stopped her then because i felt that i wasn't able to finish the rest. (Those bladewings are really fiddly to sculpt and even with my current skill hard to pull off.). And the fact that a zerg themed Tyranid army was way out of my skill (and money) range that time was the final stop of the project. I'll maybe start this project sometime in the future if i have a steady income and enough time. (with a capital maybe)

I might have some of my earlier stuff that i can take pictures off. But most is primed black and with my current (bad) camera setup you could never see the details. But with ongoing painting my old stuff will find their way into this blog. I'll have to look trough my "to-paint" box and see what i can pull out of it.

 btldoomhammer wrote:
a zerg themed Tyranid army.

How.. how does this work? They're the same thing, except that the zerg have a ladyboss.

I really like that Noise champion, and those marines are lookin' pretty nasty.

 Deunstephe wrote:
How.. how does this work? They're the same thing, except that the zerg have a ladyboss.

The idea of both race are very similar. A massive swarm race with a hivemind that runs around and comsumes life to feed and create new creatures and warriors for their ranks. The difference comes with the creatures themself.
My goal would be (if i'd do it) to recreate the look and feel of zerg units and play them as a counts as tyranid force. This would require to convert and/or scratchbuild parts or entire units to look similar to the zerg ones. And on top of that i'd need to invent more zerg creatures to fill all possible unit choises and wargear options.
So the difference is purely aestetic wise. And due to the swarm type of army i'd need to build a ton of stuff and would probably need to cast my conversion bitz like new heads/arms/carapace pieces or even entire scratchbuild models. As i don't have the money to do this this project isn't possible at the current time.


And here are some more updated pics of my paiting process. Not much has changed other than some metal paint. Much is still missing but at least it moves forward.


And here are some of my older models that will get worked on once the weather is better for priming.


Those twin demon princess were made from the same plastic box.


And even more of my older unpainted stuff. Most of them are now primed and have at least some paint on them. But as those pics were on my dakka gallery for some time you might have seen those already.

looking good! Also the most sculpting that I atemted to date wa this; Your tut should help!

 btldoomhammer wrote:

 Deunstephe wrote:
How.. how does this work? They're the same thing, except that the zerg have a ladyboss.

The idea of both race are very similar. A massive swarm race with a hivemind that runs around and comsumes life to feed and create new creatures and warriors for their ranks. The difference comes with the creatures themself.
My goal would be (if i'd do it) to recreate the look and feel of zerg units and play them as a counts as tyranid force. This would require to convert and/or scratchbuild parts or entire units to look similar to the zerg ones. And on top of that i'd need to invent more zerg creatures to fill all possible unit choises and wargear options.
So the difference is purely aestetic wise. And due to the swarm type of army i'd need to build a ton of stuff and would probably need to cast my conversion bitz like new heads/arms/carapace pieces or even entire scratchbuild models. As i don't have the money to do this this project isn't possible at the current time.

Would stripping and sending over my old 'nids help?

Those CSM are looking great, makes me want to drop my Norse Orks (or are they Crimmzun Fistz freebootas?) and make a Chaos force.. but then again, I want to make an IG Rogue Trader force... ARGH! Too many ideas, so little cash. Maybe drawing them as comics will help.

 Deunstephe wrote:

Would stripping and sending over my old 'nids help?

Those CSM are looking great, makes me want to drop my Norse Orks (or are they Crimmzun Fistz freebootas?) and make a Chaos force.. but then again, I want to make an IG Rogue Trader force... ARGH! Too many ideas, so little cash. Maybe drawing them as comics will help.

I would never say no to new stuff. But my csm army eats a lot of time now that i have started painting. And new stuff to work on would just slow my painting down again.

And i know how you feel. So many ideas and too little time and money. I had looked at Tau before starting chaos, i thought about an only grot orks army or a grot guard. Then the zerg one. And i had also thought about starting a heresy-area(shortly after or during their fall for chaos) thousand sons army.


And i just have to show you this piece i just did. I think my army looks better and better. She obviously needs some washes to tone down the shinyness and some highlighting.
And i can't decide what to do with the cloth around her hips.
Red? Dark leather? Human skin? Or something else?
What's your opinion?

Yay for paint!!

Looking good with the paint on

I'd go with either a red leather or human skin for the loin cloth...both should work well against the purple/gold...

Human skin. Pleasure comes in all forms, so why not take joy in ripping off the flesh of your former species and wear it as a loincloth? You could make it look fresh, and have blood running down the legs.

Ok, human skin it is. But i don't know if i like the fresh blood. To let it look fresh and shiny i'd need to mix red with a gloss varnish right? So that would mean that i need to add the varnish to my shopping list.


I don't have a paint update but i took some more shots from stuff i'm currently sculpting on.

But first a little shot directly from my "to-paint" box. This is the state of my noise marines. (One still misses an arm carrying a slaanesh standard)


And those are the ones i'm still working on. Turns out that some of my scratchbuild noise weapons are a bit smaller than the normal GW ones but once the cables are on this will probably not matter. I still need one body for the bassblaster and the two on the left might get a repose as i don't like the leg poses.



And finally a shot of this finshed possessed. I added the shoulder and the collar of the armor as i thought that the neck looked to open without it. (It's not the perfect shot but all necessary details are visible.)




But i can't decide what head to put on my reptile one. Do you have some ideas for a nice head?



And finally a shot of my havok launcher for my rhino. The figure is magnetized and i'm working on a similar plate for th other side of the rhino to make them into decorative platings once the havok launcher is removed.



But i don't know if i should use it as a statue, or an actual living beeing like a servitor, a slave or even a daemonette fused with the weapon. What would you prefer?

Daemonette gets my vote. Inspiring is the only word to describe your blog.

Looking good matey!

Furious Retreat wrote:
Daemonette gets my vote. Inspiring is the only word to describe your blog.

Then i need either a daemonette head or sculpt one myself. Another thing for my shopping list.

And i've played around with my paints some more.The human skin idea was really the best one so thanks for the help. While red looks good next to purple and gold the lighter human skin fits better next to the cold grey skin. She is nearly finished with that. The skin needs more work(clean edges and another layer of flesh tone after the wash to get a cleaner finish). And then only edge highlighting and she is done. Not counting the backpack as i have to do the backpacks of my whole army still - with conversions, priming and everything.


This one isn't as finished but closely after. I need to redo the tentacles as i don't like the grey ones. I'll need to do some experimentation on my mistreated aobr ork for a nice demonic skintone. Maybe something with a purple, pink or blue wash. I'll have to see.


I have a similar problem with her. Not only is the skin to grey but on top of that i need demonic skintone for the tentacles in her armor and the maw coming from the warprift in her shoulder guard. Maybe adding grey to skintone can help me here to get a very pale jet human skin. I see another mistreated ork in the future.


And at last her. I'm quite amazed how the cloak thing turned out. I though that the sculpt wasn't that good but painted it looks very good. Maybe i should trust my cloak skills more and add more of them to my army. And again i need a demonic skin tone on her. I should probably browse through the tutorials and see if there is anything i can use. (or mistreat even more orks. Those poor orks ... )

Those poor orks.. I think all you're missing with your grey skin tone is a nice wash to blend the colours together a bit. Or you could try bone colours. They look amazing anyway, keep it up!

It isn't washed like my other one because i had the feeling that the grey might not be what i want. So i didn't go further.
I might still do it if my ork testing doesn't come up with something nice.
I could try bone color but it probably would go first on another ork.

Oh my, this stuff is coming along nicely -- it looks like your worries about not being able to paint that well were unfounded!

Regarding the skintones, here are two simple recipes that I've found helpful:

Pale, slightly unhealthy looking skin:





1.) Paint with GW Rakarth Flesh (or Dheneb Stone, if you're still using the old colours).
2.) Wash liberally with GW Ogryn Flesh (not sure about the new version, but maybe Reikland Flesh shade, or something like that?)
3.) Accents with slightly thinned down Rakarth Flesh
4.) Carefully apply a mix of Ogryn Flesh and Leviathan purple into and around some of the deepest recesses (eyesockets, below the cheekbones,...) to emulate bruising and sickly pallor.


Even paler, dead-looking skin:





1.) Paint with GW Rakarth Flesh
2.) Wash liberally with GW Nuln Oil
3.) Accentuate with Rakarth Flesh.


By adding more wash, you may even be able to create a transition between the regular bodies and tentacles, daemonic limbs, etc.

Hope this helps!

I'd say go for your grey skin tones then add pink/purple washes or maybe even glazes to it afterwards. If you go for glazes you could add a few more colours in for a suitably warp-forged look maybe.....

Thanks guys.

Till now i haven't worked with washes that much other that to create shadow areas and strengthen the recesses.

I never tried to tint lighter colors with them. I'll try it on my orks.

And i never worked with the glazes. I have a blue one but never used it. I'll give it a try.