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On topic:

Neko wrote:The new cover is of a Crisis suit. The suit is posed with one leg on a boulder, whilst shooting a target to the suit's right with a fusion blaster.

And all Tau leak pics uploaded to Dakka have been deleted as well. Only those taken from other websites persist.

 Kroothawk wrote:
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Thanks

Thinking about the D fish and pathfinders,specifically the new drone that is supposed to sit in the cupola might stop me giving the fish to another unit as they may make it dedicated to the path squad. Not sure if i like that.

Bro Cap, don't argue this one, I saw the same thing kroothawk say. You re-posted rumors that were already there. Make the thread unnecessarily long.

My one an only hope is that when I buy riptide/more suits, and other models that come with more drones......is that they actually have bits for the new drones so I am not stuck with 19,000 sprues of gun drones i do not need.

i liek the look of the new stuff. i was considering starting a Tau army btu i will be holding out for the new codex (got burned by the Chaos Codex).



Plus IA12 is out soon with some long overdue FW Necron love.

 JOHIRA wrote:


This is what I never got about all the people saying XV-8s look just like Gundams. Gundams tend to be very long-legged, have tiny torsos, and giant arms, creating the appearance of a lithe, athletic robot samurai. A stock XV-8 wouldn't even be able to touch it's own chest, it's arms are so tiny. And it's legs are so tiny. They literally have the opposite proportions. So how are they like Gundams, apart from that they are both robots?

It's a question of relatives.

If you start with Space Marines and Dreadnoughts, Tau Crisis suits do look enormously long-limbed

Speaking of gundams, for those who don't like the riptide, you really can proxy in a gundam now. A master grade Gundam Heavyarms can be found online for less than half the price of a riptide, and it has essentially the same weapon loadout. Just replace it's head with a crisis suit head and paint it tausept ochre.

Anyone noticed the modified Devilfish in this picture
http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/601386_576604289017487_421049212_n.jpg
Seems they have modified where the top hatch used to be. Any ideas?

Also, heres to hoping the Nipple Speakers on the Riptide are actually Mega Smashers!

I think the idea is that the devilfish and the path finders use a special drone to communicate and confer bonuses. If you look close, that top "hatch" is the same as the top of their special drone.

Coyote81 wrote:
I think the idea is that the devilfish and the path finders use a special drone to communicate and confer bonuses. If you look close, that top "hatch" is the same as the top of their special drone.

I was hoping pathfinders wouldn't be constrained by still taking a devilfish, if what you say is correct that is probably not the case

 Messy0 wrote:

Coyote81 wrote:
I think the idea is that the devilfish and the path finders use a special drone to communicate and confer bonuses. If you look close, that top "hatch" is the same as the top of their special drone.

I was hoping pathfinders wouldn't be constrained by still taking a devilfish, if what you say is correct that is probably not the case

I has been said that they are not required to take a devilfish anymore, if that eases your pain. Use markerlights turn out to be bad, I'll keep using my tetras. Love the models.

The drone will probably encourage you to use them with a devil fish, but doesn't force you to.

Note that in all likelihood the Tau vehicles finally got the 5th edition points discount. The rumored cost of the Hammerhead with SC is the same as the current price for a Railhead with Burst Cannons.

Should make the Pathfinder Devilfish much easier to swallow.

 Rainyday wrote:
Speaking of gundams, for those who don't like the riptide, you really can proxy in a gundam now. A master grade Gundam Heavyarms can be found online for less than half the price of a riptide, and it has essentially the same weapon loadout. Just replace it's head with a crisis suit head and paint it tausept ochre.

Heck, you could go less than Master grade for far, far less.

 McNinja wrote:

 Rainyday wrote:
Speaking of gundams, for those who don't like the riptide, you really can proxy in a gundam now. A master grade Gundam Heavyarms can be found online for less than half the price of a riptide, and it has essentially the same weapon loadout. Just replace it's head with a crisis suit head and paint it tausept ochre.

Heck, you could go less than Master grade for far, far less.

I'm thinking 1/100 scale Launcher Strike Gundam.

 TheMind wrote:

 Rented Tritium wrote:

 TheMind wrote:

Flyer: I like it for a bomber, not so much for a fighter. Mine will probably end up being a mildly converted Barracuda. The primary thing that kills it for me is not the rails but the profile, FIGHTER WINGS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY. The sheer forces put on a modern air superiority fighter, let alone one from the 41st millenium, would snap those wings like so many pretzels. But for a bomber the stability they give is perfect.

You're awfully confident about the aerodynamics and structural strength of a fictional airplane designed to fly on other planets with unknown atmospheres using technology that doesn't exist currently made out of entirely fictional materials.


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 TheMind wrote:

Broadside Resculpt: After having gotten a better look at it with some of the more recent pictures, I like it. My only complaint with the forge world XV-8x suits has been that they use the crisis suit torso, which looks like crap

Forgeworld broadsides do not use the standard torso, only the forgeworld crisis suits do that.

First point: The point of the delta wing/variable wing/forward-swept wing designs is that they introduce inherent instability to the airframe of the fighter, which is good, because it makes the plane easier to throw into different maneuvers. Straight wing planes like the majority of the WWII aircraft are inherently stable airframes, excellent for things that require stability such as bombing and CAS but bad for actual maneuvering with any degree of haste or tightness. Thus, straight wings are great for something like the Sunshark bomber, but terrible for the Razorfish, which is why I will be converting a Barracuda instead.

Err no, not really. A straight wing can be just as unstable as a delta/swept/variable wing. The point of a swept/delta wing is that they are safer/more stable in a supersonic flight envelope, whereas using a straight wing at those speeds could very well result in the loss of the aircraft and/or its crew. Variable wing geometries exist to maximize performance at any point along the aircrafts flight envelope (theoretically, the F-111, F-14, and MiG-23 have all proven that even though performance is maximized it isn't really superior relative to fixed wing aircraft), because at lower speeds a straight wing provides greater maneuverability to the aircraft.

Also, canards can actually increase stability.

Sources: Me, I studied Aeronautical Engineering (even though I graduated with a degree in Industrial Engineering instead)

Anyway,

I'm kinda annoyed about the new Pathfinder devilfish drone thing... It looks awesome, now I'm gonna have to mod my existing devlifishes >.<

 McNinja wrote:

 Rainyday wrote:
Speaking of gundams, for those who don't like the riptide, you really can proxy in a gundam now. A master grade Gundam Heavyarms can be found online for less than half the price of a riptide, and it has essentially the same weapon loadout. Just replace it's head with a crisis suit head and paint it tausept ochre.

Heck, you could go less than Master grade for far, far less.

Yeah, but the MG kit might be pretty close in scale judging from the pictures formerly posted here, plus the lower-grade gundam wing kits are terrible.

As said, I will start with this Z'Gok model:

 Rainyday wrote:

 McNinja wrote:

 Rainyday wrote:
Speaking of gundams, for those who don't like the riptide, you really can proxy in a gundam now. A master grade Gundam Heavyarms can be found online for less than half the price of a riptide, and it has essentially the same weapon loadout. Just replace it's head with a crisis suit head and paint it tausept ochre.

Heck, you could go less than Master grade for far, far less.

Yeah, but the MG kit might be pretty close in scale judging from the pictures formerly posted here, plus the lower-grade gundam wing kits are terrible.

Wouldn't 1:100 be too big still, even for the riptide? I thought 1:144 was not only the smallest but at least on pics be the closest in scale.

 Kroothawk wrote:
As said, I will start with this Z'Gok model:

Spoiler:

And that's the idea I've been toying wiht on how I may try to update the head on the Riptide. It feels more suited to a large mecha than the current setup.

That model looks great! I'd be tempted to play that as a Chaos Contemptor personally....mgiht be too big though.

chaos0xomega wrote:

 TheMind wrote:

 Rented Tritium wrote:

 TheMind wrote:

Flyer: I like it for a bomber, not so much for a fighter. Mine will probably end up being a mildly converted Barracuda. The primary thing that kills it for me is not the rails but the profile, FIGHTER WINGS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY. The sheer forces put on a modern air superiority fighter, let alone one from the 41st millenium, would snap those wings like so many pretzels. But for a bomber the stability they give is perfect.

You're awfully confident about the aerodynamics and structural strength of a fictional airplane designed to fly on other planets with unknown atmospheres using technology that doesn't exist currently made out of entirely fictional materials.


Automatically Appended Next Post:

 TheMind wrote:

Broadside Resculpt: After having gotten a better look at it with some of the more recent pictures, I like it. My only complaint with the forge world XV-8x suits has been that they use the crisis suit torso, which looks like crap

Forgeworld broadsides do not use the standard torso, only the forgeworld crisis suits do that.

First point: The point of the delta wing/variable wing/forward-swept wing designs is that they introduce inherent instability to the airframe of the fighter, which is good, because it makes the plane easier to throw into different maneuvers. Straight wing planes like the majority of the WWII aircraft are inherently stable airframes, excellent for things that require stability such as bombing and CAS but bad for actual maneuvering with any degree of haste or tightness. Thus, straight wings are great for something like the Sunshark bomber, but terrible for the Razorfish, which is why I will be converting a Barracuda instead.

Err no, not really. A straight wing can be just as unstable as a delta/swept/variable wing. The point of a swept/delta wing is that they are safer/more stable in a supersonic flight envelope, whereas using a straight wing at those speeds could very well result in the loss of the aircraft and/or its crew. Variable wing geometries exist to maximize performance at any point along the aircrafts flight envelope (theoretically, the F-111, F-14, and MiG-23 have all proven that even though performance is maximized it isn't really superior relative to fixed wing aircraft), because at lower speeds a straight wing provides greater maneuverability to the aircraft.

Also, canards can actually increase stability.

Sources: Me, I studied Aeronautical Engineering (even though I graduated with a degree in Industrial Engineering instead)

Anyway,

I'm kinda annoyed about the new Pathfinder devilfish drone thing... It looks awesome, now I'm gonna have to mod my existing devlifishes >.<

Huh, shows what I know. This is why I'm in school XD

"Farsight Remains on of the taus Greatest champions"
Looks like he is no longer a sepratist.

Rumor about Tau Codex cover art:

via neko over on Warseer
The new cover is of a Crisis suit. The suit is posed with one leg on a boulder, whilst shooting a target to the suit's right with a fusion blaster.

Sounds like most codexs as of late, with a big focus on one character on the front.
To bad im going to have to get a cover for it.

Kroothawk wrote:Page 30 (18/Mar/2013 14:06:34 ) and page 32 (18/Mar/2013 17:14:44 )
Differences in quotes because we quoted the original source, you the summary by Natfka.

On topic:

Neko wrote:The new cover is of a Crisis suit. The suit is posed with one leg on a boulder, whilst shooting a target to the suit's right with a fusion blaster.

And all Tau leak pics uploaded to Dakka have been deleted as well. Only those taken from other websites persist.

Brother Captain Alexander wrote:Rumor about Tau Codex cover art:

via neko over on Warseer
The new cover is of a Crisis suit. The suit is posed with one leg on a boulder, whilst shooting a target to the suit's right with a fusion blaster.

Seriously, at least read the current page!

I've noticed that the Kroot are nowhere to be found in these pics. I hope GW aren't de-emphasizing them....

The theory is that there will be an ally codex that incorporates them.

Or there are just no new Kroot models. I don't recall any panic when no Tactical box was shown in the Dark Angels release.