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Interesting. Carapace Armour?

Perhaps they'll function similarly to the Heralds from the Daemon codex. As long as Tau are the primary you can take multiples of them.

Or Sanguinary Priests, perhaps?

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Interesting. Carapace Armour?

4+ save (but that's the imperial version)

4+ save its the save all Firewarriors actually have, its just standard XV1 armour... And so goes my hope that Shas`ui`s can take the XV15 armor (without jetpack or stealth) to battle T_T i really wanted to use my XV15 models more often.

I use my XV15 as veteran steathsuit teams..or so I call them ( seems to motivate them to roll better )

I guess we finally dont have to take a crisis suit commander anymore huh?

I use my XV-15s quite frequently as forward deployed shocktroops. Their smaller size makes them perfect for jumping through terrain and harrassing out of place infantry.

So, anyone want to trade some dusty old Tau for some DV Chaos?

 Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:
I use my XV15 as veteran steathsuit teams..or so I call them ( seems to motivate them to roll better )

I use mine as the opposite. I have 6 xv-15s as my standard stealthsuits and the newer ones as fusion blaster wielding versions. Looks like they're wearing a huge power pack and blastshield anyways.

Riptide is bad imo, so is the new flyer. The former looks good at first sight but then you realise where the head is and the latter is incoherent and not sleek enough for Tau. To add insult to the injury the 3+ suit (that's kids age not save) stays and so do grey aliens in pants.

Worst thing about the release though is that Tau are not being discontinued. Don't get me wrong, I dig Evangelion and all but Tau don't fit 40k at all. It's not straight hate (that is reserved for Kroot) as I am even considering making an allied detachment with this as a riptide http://www.flickr.com/photos/fernando/360401980/in/photostream/ (got it for birthday few years back), few FW suits around it (those are great) and grimdarked firewarriors but the universe would be better without them. At least they should do something about the pants and finaly reveal that Tau are worse than Stalin and Mao combined.

How long has the Hammerhead not been available?

Edited by Manchu

hi guys,
have you seen these:
http://orctown.tistory.com/
http://www.outsydergaming.com/2013/03/tau-xv104-riptide-battlesuit.html

from orctown:
2) Tau Empire Codex: 6 만원

3) XV184 Riptide Battlesuit: 10 만원

4) Sunshark Bomber / Razorshark Fighter: 8 만원

5) Pathfinders: 4 만원

6) XV88 Broadside Battlesuit: 6 만원

7) XV8 Crisis Battlesuit: 9 만원

looks like the xv184 will be rather expensive. normally things in korea are about 30% more expensive than in the states meaning the 100 000 korean won on the xv184 would result in something like 70$
also interessting that the xv8 box costs 90 000 KRW which would suggest that its either horribly over priced or 3 in a box

kuzao wrote:
hi guys,
have you seen these:
http://orctown.tistory.com/
http://www.outsydergaming.com/2013/03/tau-xv104-riptide-battlesuit.html

from orctown:
2) Tau Empire Codex: 6 만원

3) XV184 Riptide Battlesuit: 10 만원

4) Sunshark Bomber / Razorshark Fighter: 8 만원

5) Pathfinders: 4 만원

6) XV88 Broadside Battlesuit: 6 만원

7) XV8 Crisis Battlesuit: 9 만원

looks like the xv184 will be rather expensive. normally things in korea are about 30% more expensive than in the states meaning the 100 000 korean won on the xv184 would result in something like 70$
also interessting that the xv8 box costs 90 000 KRW which would suggest that its either horribly over priced or 3 in a box

it is 3 in a box. also its all in korean hard to read =P (im ashamed i should know how to read it)

I feel that the flyers with some converting could possibly look nice (toying with some ideas in my head), and I feel a few tweaks on the riptide will have it looking swell (I think it looks pretty neat as is). The broadside I think came out to be decent (Though I gotta admit I was partial to the shoulder mounted rail guns). However, I would have liked to have seen a tweaked Crisis suit, but oh well...

Plumbumbarum wrote:
...but Tau don't fit 40k at all.

Yeah, because the galaxy is too small a setting to have that kind of variety.

Y'know what doesnt fit in 40k? Orks, They are just to silly to be a serious threat.

 KaiserEddie wrote:

The hakama is the big clown pants of traditional japanese clothes, AFAIK, and see, it looks more like the lower piece of a... Gabardina, sorry i dont know the name in english, the Neo`s Coat, i cant explain myself since i dont know how its called, but im possitive its not a hakama what were looking at. But anyway, that Shas`ui looks outstanding. The Pathfinders are the win-win model release of these wave imo.

Clown pants? Have you ever seen a hakama? They are like completely the opposite of one another, hakama tight at the waist and loose at the feet while the clown pants are super loose at the waste and tight at the feet.

Clown pants:
http://www.halloweenplayground.com/images/rubies/snazzy-clown-costume.jpg

Hakama
http://aikithoughts.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/davehakama.jpg

So, did I read that Riptides are Elites correctly? Because that very much looks like a HS slot choice. If it is, and if you can throw a railgun on the riptides, railgun spam will be something to be scared of.

Looks like elites might get crowded.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Y'know what doesnt fit in 40k? Orks, They are just to silly to be a serious threat.

Agreed 100% Goofy, dopey, and of minor intelligence. Orks belong in a fantasy setting, not sci-fi. They would never even begin to keep up with the technology curve. Guns would frighten them away... But even on that note I'll concede that they have been given a prominent place in the 40k galaxy. As they are written, so let them be.

So, anyone thinking about the XV184's ability to use HoW?

Why would you charge with it?

It might allow you to kill an enemy character in a short assault or at worst you're locked in there in their turn too and it's a massive LOS blocking mess.

It was my view that the XV104 was a really bad thing to throw away in combat. I would prefer the jump to be used to escape instead of attack.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Looks like elites might get crowded.

Yeah. The riptide looks like it can pack in alot of extra dakka or railguns, but crisis suits will always be a Tau centerpiece. the fact those two alone have to fight it out for elite slots will be interesting to see.

 Ledabot wrote:
It was my view that the XV104 was a really bad thing to throw away in combat. I would prefer the jump to be used to escape instead of attack.

IDK man, it'll be a monstrous creature, so probably Str6 or Str7, likely to have two attacks at AP2. If there is a lone guy hanging out and my guns don't kill it, it isn't crazy to assume you'd be able to off him one round of assault.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Why would you charge with it?

To punch that F*&%ing transport that managed to survive the shooting phase.

To slow that FMC for a turn.

To screw over that 30-man IG blob

To keep it safe from shooting for a turn.


Just to name a few

The Riptide's stated purpose is to fill gaps in the tau battleline, and give cover for other units..that being said its sort of a "fire brigade unit", (in the manner of the XV-9 but hopefully with a bit longer ranges) with jump jets and alot of longrange fire power (hopefully), I will likely use it to go where its needed, deal with what it can, and relocate if possible, CC is the last place I will want to tie it up in, but who knows in a worse case senario it may preform well, but likely it will serve best as a mobile tough, LOS blocking support unit.

Cant wait to start digesting the rules and posibilities for these new units.

And is posable, so drop that sucker low to get aegis cover saves.