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 Kroothawk wrote:

Activating the Riptide's Nova Engine is risky. It only works on a 3+. If it fails to activate (roll of 1-2) the Riptide suffers a wound.

Tau version of Imperial plasma weaponry

I wonder if the Riptide can be given the Stimulant Injector, and if the wound can be saved with FNP.

Also, considering the rumor that Crisis Suits now all have multi tracker standard, I wonder if they'll move from "double weapons = twinlinked" to "double weapons = double weapons".

Getting four shots each from Deathrains would be nice.

RogueRegault wrote:

 Kingsley wrote:

Wolfnid420 wrote:
So, anyone think that Tau will get some sort of access to the psychic charts without taking allies?

I doubt it. There were earlier rumors of a new race in the Tau Empire that would have psychic abilities but I suspect it would have leaked with the other WD stuff by now if that were the case.

The main issue I could see is finding sculptors at GW willing to make what looks like a cross between a polar bear and a flounder and people willing to buy them.

Niccassar work for Battlefleet Gothic, don't work where people can see their goofy appearance.

Nicassar could be written to move around inside a cool floating battle pod which would be designed to suit the Tau high-tech look while introducing a different aesthetic into the imagery.

A kind of "travel machine" if you will...

 Kingsley wrote:

Wolfnid420 wrote:
So, anyone think that Tau will get some sort of access to the psychic charts without taking allies?

I doubt it. There were earlier rumors of a new race in the Tau Empire that would have psychic abilities but I suspect it would have leaked with the other WD stuff by now if that were the case.

Kroot have Psychers, though. Including them to the Codex would be easy, don't necessarily even need a new model. But there has been no rumours about that.

RogueRegault wrote:
I wonder if the Riptide can be given the Stimulant Injector, and if the wound can be saved with FNP.

Also, considering the rumor that Crisis Suits now all have multi tracker standard, I wonder if they'll move from "double weapons = twinlinked" to "double weapons = double weapons".

Getting four shots each from Deathrains would be nice.

Moving Tau suits to double weapons would be incredibly op.

Four shot Deathrain?

I'd be more worried about four shot Plasma Rifle or six shot burst cannon.

I wouldn't be too opposed to Kroot coming out of the Tau 'dex if something comes in to replace them, I run one unit of Kroot in my list (would like to make that two). I would definitely like to see allies expanded for Tau, even if it meant Kroot could be taken by anyone, they are mercenaries after all!

I personally prefer the look of the tau to kroot/vespid anyway so am not worried by the rumours of the new codex being tau only.

What does concern me, however is the amount of people who do like them and are left with no rules for them until the rumoured allies supplement hits the shelves (or more likely becomes direct order only from GW) and the fact that without Kroot the Tau only have fire warriors in Troops unless they make a new unit or put something else like Pathfinders or Stealths in the slot instead.

Re: The Riptide; I thought the Tau were against this kind of unreliable self-damaging technology (e.g. their Plasma Rifles)?
Is this going to be grimdark-desperation, 6th Ed randomness, or unreliable rumour-ing?

The XV9 command suit had those special ammo that had gets hot. It can happen.

So today should be the GW teaser vid, right?

I'm guessing Monday.

 Jadenim wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if Pathfinders to move to elites; as far as I understand it they were only in fast attack as that allowed them to deploy first under 4th edition rules. Elites with infiltrate makes more sense compared to similar units from other armies.

It makes sense if GWs mission is to make sure they don't sell a single new plastic Pathfinder box...

 Just Dave wrote:
Re: The Riptide; I thought the Tau were against this kind of unreliable self-damaging technology (e.g. their Plasma Rifles)?
Is this going to be grimdark-desperation, 6th Ed randomness, or unreliable rumour-ing?

No, its that the Tau actually are able to study and advance their tech, so their main-line plasma weaponry was made safe.

However, they've also frequently had more experimental weaponry does more crazy stuff including some that gets hot (in the FW books).

One of the things I've liked about the Tau codex rereleases is that its the one army that really emphasizes that the new stuff they introduce is actually 'new' and not just some thing that was always in the army but we just never noticed it before. So if the Riptide is a new deployment (which I'm guessing it will be), then it stands to reason that it could be packed with tech that is still untested and therefore prone to some random behavior.

I think a question most are forgetting w/ the whole nova engine thing is if you role a 1 or 2 is that wound savable? Armor or cover save acceptable. That will be big in deciding whether the risk is worth the reward. I'd like to see more special ammo in the new dex, kind of fits more than "gets hot" issues. Kind of like R'lai's options. An what is everyone's thoughts on the devilfish, at what point level are they a no brainer and auto take now?

 Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:
Ork written language is sort of a bunch of glyphs..kinda like a cartoon strip with no captions..it gets the meaning across though

So basically like a current White Dwarf

Zing!

 yakface wrote:

One of the things I've liked about the Tau codex rereleases is that its the one army that really emphasizes that the new stuff they introduce is actually 'new' and not just some thing that was always in the army but we just never noticed it before. So if the Riptide is a new deployment (which I'm guessing it will be), then it stands to reason that it could be packed with tech that is still untested and therefore prone to some random behavior.

I like that as well, it also works for Orks (new big mek inventions) and Tyranids (new morphs evolving).

The new Riptide looks great, and could lend itself very well to some nice conversion work.

As to the Riptides nova reactor random activation, my bet is you decide what effect you are wanting to enable ( if there are more than one) then roll and on a 3+ it works , otherwise a wound, I cant see it being a random activation and a random effect, just does not fit with established tau game stats.
And the Tau have had several weapons that went through a experimental phase or 1 per army status, the railrifles targetlock use to gethot, but that was changed in a later codex release, the XV-9 commander has a submuition round that gets hot, and both of these are on a per choice basis, i.e. you have to decide to use it, not just anytime the unit fires etc.

It may also be in the newest codex, the restriced use weapons will no longer be such, (stimulant injectors, iridium armor and all), gonna be interesting

Rail Rifles initially had Gets Hot as well, when they were released (Chapter Approved, I believe?).

Speaking of rail rifles, has there been any mention of them being more available? Did Sniper drone teams get moved? Because I can't honestly see them still being able to compete in any slot, especially Heavy Support right now.

Natfka's source rows back:

Ravengardt from Faeit 212 inbox wrote:Me again, had a bit of time to talk to someone else over at . The info they've got is sparse too. Looks like real release briefings were stopped to prevent leaks. They get their hard facts a day before or at preorder start. So it looks like my earlier source might have been a little overly enthusiastic. So please add a lot of salt.

Sorry if I caused trouble. I wanted to clarify how dependable me info is.

'I wanted to clarify how dependable me info is.' If its as dependable as your grammar, not very...

Hard facts as opposed to ... stuff made up to inflame the internet?

UltraPrime wrote:
'I wanted to clarify how dependable me info is.' If its as dependable as your grammar, not very...

Don't tease pirates.

Aaaaar!

Puscifer wrote:

RogueRegault wrote:
I wonder if the Riptide can be given the Stimulant Injector, and if the wound can be saved with FNP.

Also, considering the rumor that Crisis Suits now all have multi tracker standard, I wonder if they'll move from "double weapons = twinlinked" to "double weapons = double weapons".

Getting four shots each from Deathrains would be nice.

Moving Tau suits to double weapons would be incredibly op.

Four shot Deathrain?

I'd be more worried about four shot Plasma Rifle or six shot burst cannon.

It's not op if you're paying the right amount of points for it. Twin-Linking weapons always should have been an option rather than forced. Two of the same weapon isn't that big of a difference from 2 different weapons.
I can fire 5 shots with MT+MP+PR, but I can't fire 4 shots with MT+PR+PR? It's silly.

 Kroothawk wrote:
Natfka's source rows back:

Ravengardt from Faeit 212 inbox wrote:Me again, had a bit of time to talk to someone else over at . The info they've got is sparse too. Looks like real release briefings were stopped to prevent leaks. They get their hard facts a day before or at preorder start. So it looks like my earlier source might have been a little overly enthusiastic. So please add a lot of salt.

Sorry if I caused trouble. I wanted to clarify how dependable me info is.

So essentially... apart from the WD leaks we cant be sure of anything?

 yakface wrote:
One of the things I've liked about the Tau codex rereleases is that its the one army that really emphasizes that the new stuff they introduce is actually 'new' and not just some thing that was always in the army but we just never noticed it before. So if the Riptide is a new deployment (which I'm guessing it will be), then it stands to reason that it could be packed with tech that is still untested and therefore prone to some random behavior.

Except that the storyline in 40k does not advance. Therefore there can, by definition, be nothing "new" instead of "always there but never noticed".

 Manchu wrote:
Hard facts as opposed to ... stuff made up to inflame the internet?

UltraPrime wrote:
'I wanted to clarify how dependable me info is.' If its as dependable as your grammar, not very...

Don't tease pirates.

 sierra 1247 wrote:
So essentially, this could mean up to 52 ages of TROLLING?!

After 52 ages, I expect the pirates are quite capable of fighting trollkin.

The tau story line did advance in the last book
..somewhat at least.

 Breotan wrote:
Except that the storyline in 40k does not advance. Therefore there can, by definition, be nothing "new" instead of "always there but never noticed".

I think this is an issue of scale. The more you zoom into the 40k setting, the more possibility there is for storyline progression. The more you zoom out, the more things cannot change. As a matter of their background, Tau only exist in the zoomed-in sense. This dovetails nicely with the rest of their fluff about being a dynamic young race. Pull back to the Imperium at large and nothing is happening. Pull even further back to the Eldar-level of perspective and nothing of note has happened for over 10,000 years.