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Rustgob wrote:

 wowsmash wrote:
I always hate it when you get the ravers who break their models. It's an uncomfortable event to watch not to mention the models themselves are expensive. I feel bad for the models. Poor little guys :( in my head I'm thinking if you we're mine I'd take care off you.

As far as smokers, it doesn't bother me. I used to smoke and even after I quit it still smells so good. My favorite is when their smoking camels. Like smelling warm apple pie.

I do find the pot smokers funny though. They try to be all low key but its kind hard to do when you smell like you just rolled around in a stink weed patch. Get the really sharp/bitter smell. It seems stronger than cig smoke in cloths too.

Totally agree to all of that. I never minded the smell of regular cigs, smelt kind of nice; but I get pretty congested with dust and stuff lately so I can't imagine the smoke will agree with em anymore lol. Just absolutely can't stand the smell of pot; It simply does not agree with me.

I've never witnessed a lunatic breaking his models, but I'm such a softie, I can't even tough to a bloody stuffed animal. They're innocent! >.>

I don't really mind cigarette smoke, though I can't remember the last time I smoked 'em. Never did anything for me. Weed, on the other hand, is always a welcome smell. I suppose it's an acquired thing.

A small addendum to that, so long as they're not blowing it in my face. Never pleasant. And 40k takes long enough WITHOUT spending two hours synching up the Wizard of Oz and Dark Side of the Moon.

As for modelbreakers... To be honest, I can't remember the last time I saw one. Why anyone would do something so stupid with something so expensive is beyond me. Never had the urge.

I once drove 40 miles to go to warhammer world - we got to turn 2 before my opponant ragequit and started jumping on his models (vindicator)

He doesn't play anymore and I think he's a lot happier for it.

PredaKhaine wrote:
I once drove 40 miles to go to warhammer world - we got to turn 2 before my opponant ragequit and started jumping on his models (vindicator)

He doesn't play anymore and I think he's a lot happier for it.

Jumping on his vindicator? I shivered at the thought.

Anyone who makes you wish you never played that game, be it because you did not have fun or some other similar reason, is in my mind the worst player. I come to enjoy. no more. no less. If you beat me, good game! recently I haven't won a single game, but every game I have had a smile on my face.


take this scenario a few weeks ago. we were playing a four player free for all. Orks (me), grey knights, Daemons and Tau. the Tau player and I deployed quite close to each other. the fight begins. by turn two, my Nobz, Boyz and lootas were all dead, but I was still smiling as we continued. I thought the tables would turn with the arrival of my Dakkajet. it killed a handful of fire warriors and was then shot down by a lucky broadside shot. I laughed when this happened. finnaly, my custom Warlord, Blacktoof, was hit in the face by a lucky battle suit punch, ending the game for me. I thanked the Tau player, seeing as I only really fought him, and started packing up. it was the next bit that made me angry. the Deamon player decide that, for vengeance, he would deep strike his flamers into the Tau gun line. the Tau player threw a hissy fit, saying he was cheating on the Force org. chart and some other crap. he then blamed all of this on me, even though he beat me with the loss of about 8 fire warriors and a battlesuit. that was bad sportsmanship, and it made me angry. if you're gonna get Matt Warded, then live with it, just how I lived with you blitzing my Freebooters.


GA

 TermiesInARaider wrote:

PredaKhaine wrote:
I once drove 40 miles to go to warhammer world - we got to turn 2 before my opponant ragequit and started jumping on his models (vindicator)

He doesn't play anymore and I think he's a lot happier for it.

Jumping on his vindicator? I shivered at the thought.

People never grow up, most develop a sense of morality and utilise at least some level of maturity. Others, not so much.

I have some cool people around to play games with, I am not a competitive player, I am not skilled at the game, in 6th I don't know the rules very well either. I just love playing 40k, I play it because I think it is cool and unique.

People blame losses to me my OP Grey Knights book when I rarely use more than 1 of my 2 Grey Knight units. Yeah, my Deathcult Assassins are very powerful, but they certainly are not the hardest Death Star in the game, and are shot to pieces very easily, even when they ride in their Stormraven. I generally don't even get a solid win, I go in, wreck some face and die. I hate how people can't have fun because I am "using an OP dex" just because my DCA can trash Marines. (They were better in 5th than in 6th, and in 5th could wreck terminators too. But they killed 1 or 2 units a game almost all the time.) People who cry op because of the picture on the front of a book bother me.

 Lord Magnus wrote:
I have some cool people around to play games with, I am not a competitive player, I am not skilled at the game, in 6th I don't know the rules very well either. I just love playing 40k, I play it because I think it is cool and unique.

People blame losses to me my OP Grey Knights book when I rarely use more than 1 of my 2 Grey Knight units. Yeah, my Deathcult Assassins are very powerful, but they certainly are not the hardest Death Star in the game, and are shot to pieces very easily, even when they ride in their Stormraven. I generally don't even get a solid win, I go in, wreck some face and die. I hate how people can't have fun because I am "using an OP dex" just because my DCA can trash Marines. (They were better in 5th than in 6th, and in 5th could wreck terminators too. But they killed 1 or 2 units a game almost all the time.) People who cry op because of the picture on the front of a book bother me.

There's one of those perspectives I never understood. Most likely because I play so infrequently that any game against a willing and civil opponent is welcome. I could care less if I get stomped by a gussied up full-cheese GK list, so long as the guy across from me is being friendly about it.

 TermiesInARaider wrote:

 Lord Magnus wrote:
I have some cool people around to play games with, I am not a competitive player, I am not skilled at the game, in 6th I don't know the rules very well either. I just love playing 40k, I play it because I think it is cool and unique.

People blame losses to me my OP Grey Knights book when I rarely use more than 1 of my 2 Grey Knight units. Yeah, my Deathcult Assassins are very powerful, but they certainly are not the hardest Death Star in the game, and are shot to pieces very easily, even when they ride in their Stormraven. I generally don't even get a solid win, I go in, wreck some face and die. I hate how people can't have fun because I am "using an OP dex" just because my DCA can trash Marines. (They were better in 5th than in 6th, and in 5th could wreck terminators too. But they killed 1 or 2 units a game almost all the time.) People who cry op because of the picture on the front of a book bother me.

There's one of those perspectives I never understood. Most likely because I play so infrequently that any game against a willing and civil opponent is welcome. I could care less if I get stomped by a gussied up full-cheese GK list, so long as the guy across from me is being friendly about it.

It's all about how the person acts, rather than how the codex plays, indeed.

If the person on the opposite end of the table to me is being a douche-canoe, taking about how my army list sucks while he plays GK simply for their meta-power, I'd probably pack up after a turn or two.

If, on the other hand, they beat me graciously (an apology might not hurt xD), I don't give a damn if I get smashed by turn two.

 TermiesInARaider wrote:

 Lord Magnus wrote:
I have some cool people around to play games with, I am not a competitive player, I am not skilled at the game, in 6th I don't know the rules very well either. I just love playing 40k, I play it because I think it is cool and unique.

People blame losses to me my OP Grey Knights book when I rarely use more than 1 of my 2 Grey Knight units. Yeah, my Deathcult Assassins are very powerful, but they certainly are not the hardest Death Star in the game, and are shot to pieces very easily, even when they ride in their Stormraven. I generally don't even get a solid win, I go in, wreck some face and die. I hate how people can't have fun because I am "using an OP dex" just because my DCA can trash Marines. (They were better in 5th than in 6th, and in 5th could wreck terminators too. But they killed 1 or 2 units a game almost all the time.) People who cry op because of the picture on the front of a book bother me.

There's one of those perspectives I never understood. Most likely because I play so infrequently that any game against a willing and civil opponent is welcome. I could care less if I get stomped by a gussied up full-cheese GK list, so long as the guy across from me is being friendly about it.

I am always friendly in my games, I joke about the deaths of units, on my side and the opponent, I throw in little fluffy bit about how the Space Marine slammed my Nob in the face with his powerfist as the Nob snapped him in half when the simultaneously murder each other in a challenge. That is why I enjoy 40k, I like having the fun that interaction can bring and I enjoy socialization.

Rustgob wrote:

 TermiesInARaider wrote:

PredaKhaine wrote:
I once drove 40 miles to go to warhammer world - we got to turn 2 before my opponant ragequit and started jumping on his models (vindicator)

He doesn't play anymore and I think he's a lot happier for it.

Jumping on his vindicator? I shivered at the thought.

People never grow up, most develop a sense of morality and utilise at least some level of maturity. Others, not so much.

Personally, I think realising that something brings out the worst in you and taking steps to correct that are signs of being fairly mature

Thats why he sold his 40k.

PredaKhaine wrote:

Rustgob wrote:

 TermiesInARaider wrote:

PredaKhaine wrote:
I once drove 40 miles to go to warhammer world - we got to turn 2 before my opponant ragequit and started jumping on his models (vindicator)

He doesn't play anymore and I think he's a lot happier for it.

Jumping on his vindicator? I shivered at the thought.

People never grow up, most develop a sense of morality and utilise at least some level of maturity. Others, not so much.

Personally, I think realising that something brings out the worst in you and taking steps to correct that are signs of being fairly mature

Thats why he sold his 40k.

Indeed it is, it's a good sign!

For me, it comes down to who the person is in general. If they're a really genuine A-hole, I can't stand playing with them. There is why guy in general who comes to mine when I say this. He's in his late 20s or early 30s and frankly acts like he's a 13 year old jackass. Nothing but insults and your mom jokes makes it out of his mouth. He has admitted to he makes a concerted effort to behave this way. It leads me to believe that something happen. Perhaps a girl broke his heart or he's just that insecure about himself.

In terms of gaming, guys who proxy everything grid my gears. a few model is acceptable seeing how you may just want to try something out but, 4 units is nonsense. I guess that would be a power gaming thing.

 aosol wrote:
For me, it comes down to who the person is in general. If they're a really genuine A-hole, I can't stand playing with them. There is why guy in general who comes to mine when I say this. He's in his late 20s or early 30s and frankly acts like he's a 13 year old jackass. Nothing but insults and your mom jokes makes it out of his mouth. He has admitted to he makes a concerted effort to behave this way. It leads me to believe that something happen. Perhaps a girl broke his heart or he's just that insecure about himself.

In terms of gaming, guys who proxy everything grid my gears. a few model is acceptable seeing how you may just want to try something out but, 4 units is nonsense. I guess that would be a power gaming thing.

I know that when I dick around with friends on the interwebs, I drop a few sarcastic 'Your face!' jokes on and off, to be funny, but that's an In-joke. I can't imagine why anyone would really want to look like a douchebag in public. I tend to be very quiet, unless engaged in interesting conversation.

 DeffDred wrote:

Experiment 626 wrote:
The outright worst ones imho are;
- Smokers. Filthy habbit and it makes you smell a million times worse than just pure body-stink. What's worse, is smokers who put the game on hold so they can go step outside and light-up for 10 minutes or so, and then drag that disgusting stench with them back into the gaming hall, then lean over the table and waft it right in your face.
Considering I'm not a smoker myself, having to play against a hardcore smokestack can easily be far, far worse than simply being near a GUO.

That's your worst? I'm a bit offended. I play balanced fun lists, painted better than most, I have have full comprehension of the rules (though not in 6th yet) and am viewed by some as the definition of what a good gamer is.
Yet you wouldn't want to play against me because I smoke? I understand it can slow down a game but if you don't smoke you don't understand.
I can't smoke inside the store so I have to step out. Would you rather I go out or blow smoke in your face?
If the game gets intense... need a butt. Streak of bad luck and getting fustrated... need a butt. UGSC... need a butt.
Not playing someone because they smoke is like not playing someone because they wear sneakers instead of pennyloafers.

Smoking is purely a decision. No one needs to "understand" it. Fact is you are making others wait for you by your own choice. It's no different from just arbitrarily saying "Oh, I'm just gonna stand here for 5+ minutes doing nothing for no particular reason." I'm not sure why smokers always seem to believe they have special "rights" just because they smoke (one common example in a working environment is smoke breaks). Plus yes, the afterstench is terrible. Anyone who smokes and comes in to play really has no say to someone else's smell, at any rate.

On that note though, locally we do have a few smokers. They've taken to smoking electric cigarettes if they have a need for a smoke while playing a match. I'm generally fine with that, as the smell of the stuff is generally acceptable and evaporates quickly, unlike the clingy smokey stench of real cigarettes.

Also, one way to mitigate the effect of smoke breaks is to take them during the opponent's movement turn. You'll have to trust your opponent not to cheat in such a case I guess, but it's either than or he has to put up with having to wait for you to do what you're supposed to be doing - playing.

 tvih wrote:

 DeffDred wrote:

Experiment 626 wrote:
The outright worst ones imho are;
- Smokers. Filthy habbit and it makes you smell a million times worse than just pure body-stink. What's worse, is smokers who put the game on hold so they can go step outside and light-up for 10 minutes or so, and then drag that disgusting stench with them back into the gaming hall, then lean over the table and waft it right in your face.
Considering I'm not a smoker myself, having to play against a hardcore smokestack can easily be far, far worse than simply being near a GUO.

That's your worst? I'm a bit offended. I play balanced fun lists, painted better than most, I have have full comprehension of the rules (though not in 6th yet) and am viewed by some as the definition of what a good gamer is.
Yet you wouldn't want to play against me because I smoke? I understand it can slow down a game but if you don't smoke you don't understand.
I can't smoke inside the store so I have to step out. Would you rather I go out or blow smoke in your face?
If the game gets intense... need a butt. Streak of bad luck and getting fustrated... need a butt. UGSC... need a butt.
Not playing someone because they smoke is like not playing someone because they wear sneakers instead of pennyloafers.

Smoking is purely a decision. No one needs to "understand" it. Fact is you are making others wait for you by your own choice. It's no different from just arbitrarily saying "Oh, I'm just gonna stand here for 5+ minutes doing nothing for no particular reason." I'm not sure why smokers always seem to believe they have special "rights" just because they smoke (one common example in a working environment is smoke breaks). Plus yes, the afterstench is terrible. Anyone who smokes and comes in to play really has no say to someone else's smell, at any rate.

On that note though, locally we do have a few smokers. They've taken to smoking electric cigarettes if they have a need for a smoke while playing a match. I'm generally fine with that, as the smell of the stuff is generally acceptable and evaporates quickly, unlike the clingy smokey stench of real cigarettes.

Also, one way to mitigate the effect of smoke breaks is to take them during the opponent's movement turn. You'll have to trust your opponent not to cheat in such a case I guess, but it's either than or he has to put up with having to wait for you to do what you're supposed to be doing - playing.

To be honest, putting an entire game on hold to take a single smoke might not be a smoker thing; you might be dealing with a subpar human being who just so happens to smoke. As for the smell... Well, some are more sensitive to it than others, I'm sure. Nothing wrong with not liking it, but maybe have some thicker skin, eh? You could do a lot worse than smell like cigarettes. You could make politically incorrect jokes at the worst possible time, or be a nazi!

With that said, there is a guy who occasionally shows himself around the FLGS who looks a bit like a skinhead. He seems rather polite as a rule, though. Not sure.

Smoking is an addiction - self inflicted, but still an addiction.

Letting someone who smokes go for one mid game isn't any different to them going for a toilet break. They both can take 10 minutes and they both could come back smelling. Both can lead to a much happier opponant.

A game where everyone is happy is the best game.

Wait...

I'm a smoker and all. Love a cigarette after a good game, especially if my opponent joins me and we can laugh about some of the stuff that happened.

But people actually make folks wait mid-game so that they can smoke? That's just inconsiderate.

I've never seen that happen. If you get a craving, it can wait 30+ minutes for you to finish the game. If you're dying for nicotine, carry dip and slap it in. It's what I do at tournaments. May look gross and make you talk like a fool, but it's far more considerate than ditching your opponent at the table for 5+ minutes.

-TheCaptain

 TheCaptain wrote:
Wait...

I'm a smoker and all. Love a cigarette after a good game, especially if my opponent joins me and we can laugh about some of the stuff that happened.

But people actually make folks wait mid-game so that they can smoke? That's just inconsiderate.

I've never seen that happen. If you get a craving, it can wait 30+ minutes for you to finish the game. If you're dying for nicotine, carry dip and slap it in. It's what I do at tournaments. May look gross and make you talk like a fool, but it's far more considerate than ditching your opponent at the table for 5+ minutes.

-TheCaptain

Could always stick a nicotine patch/chew nicotine gum if you think the matches will take a long time. Or, as my father has done: Switch to e-Cigarettes. (They're cheaper!)

 TheCaptain wrote:
Wait...

I'm a smoker and all. Love a cigarette after a good game, especially if my opponent joins me and we can laugh about some of the stuff that happened.

But people actually make folks wait mid-game so that they can smoke? That's just inconsiderate.

I've never seen that happen. If you get a craving, it can wait 30+ minutes for you to finish the game. If you're dying for nicotine, carry dip and slap it in. It's what I do at tournaments. May look gross and make you talk like a fool, but it's far more considerate than ditching your opponent at the table for 5+ minutes.

-TheCaptain

I use to play against a smoker pretty frequently. He either smoked the E-Cigs, which was fine, or left during my movement phase. Didn't slow down the game at all.

I usually get phone calls in a game, my buddies generally sneak off for a cigarette while I'm chatting to my boss (or the missus).

Edit: Woahs! They filter British slang to the generic word.

 Griddlelol wrote:

Edit: Woahs! They filter British slang to the generic word.

Better safe than sorry? Haha.

 Griddlelol wrote:
Edit: Woahs! They filter British slang to the generic word.

Aye, because it has a somewhat different meaning in American slang. They had to change a few words in LotR too since the professor used an old word for "bundle of wood" - everyone not equipped with a good dictionary would have wondered why the fellowship was carrying around persons of a certain sexual orientation.

Spetulhu wrote:

 Griddlelol wrote:
Edit: Woahs! They filter British slang to the generic word.

Aye, because it has a somewhat different meaning in American slang. They had to change a few words in LotR too since the professor used an old word for "bundle of wood" - everyone not equipped with a good dictionary would have wondered why the fellowship was carrying around persons of a certain sexual orientation.

And using them to start fires. My goodness.

Rustgob wrote:

Spetulhu wrote:

 Griddlelol wrote:
Edit: Woahs! They filter British slang to the generic word.

Aye, because it has a somewhat different meaning in American slang. They had to change a few words in LotR too since the professor used an old word for "bundle of wood" - everyone not equipped with a good dictionary would have wondered why the fellowship was carrying around persons of a certain sexual orientation.

And using them to start fires. My goodness.

This is most most excellent

Also, who hates the fluff gamer? By definition he cares more about fluff than the game itself...

7 Pages of the worst type of gamer later....honestly i don't let my personal opinion or judgement get in the way of a good game of 40k. if they smell bad or whatever i take it as it is, and move on. i don't get enough gaming in as i'd like (lack of opposition), therefore when i do game i just accept thing that bothers me, it is far more important to me to enjoy the game and also ensure my opponent has a ejoyable and memorable game.

i think this thread went to "Your worst story" with the worst player lol. Some horrific stories im glad i never had to deal with (i say had because the future is still moving closer to me and holds many strange new things in its giant deuce it wants to drop on me as it goes by)

people hate the fluff gamer because if you are not playing for fluff or just bringing a lawlsy army you'd normally NEVER use, its rarely a challenge because the "fluff" armies are always lacking something big or have something expensive thats useless.

Also for the bad hygene comments, some people just cant help it. yes i know for every 1 smelly guy/gal that just has a medical condition, theres probably 50+ that just dont shower.

Worst type of player is just socially inept. You can bring the biggest ass-kicking cheese-cramming hammer-spamming beard-building list out there, but if you are personable and generally fun to hang out with I will have a good game, even if I am packing up by T3.

I would make a comment about bad hygiene but I often game on sundays, which are hangover days a lot of the time. No amount showering or deodorant can mask the booze wafting from my pours

 Lord Rogukiel wrote:

Also, who hates the fluff gamer? By definition he cares more about fluff than the game itself...

There ARE unreasonable fluff gamers just like there are unreasonable competitive gamers.

I've had some lovely games with fluffy players, and then some ridiculous unbased arguments with the same type of folk.

"What! No way I just lost 3 Space Marines to lasguns. They're space marines. They shrug that stuff off usually. They should have a 2+ armor save and T5 at least."

"But they don't."

"Well they should! SM never die like that. They should be tougher."

"But they aren't."

"Whatever. You're WAAC if you think I'm going to keep playing this. No sane guardsman would even fight a Space Marine."

"K bye."

....by that fluff players argument Space Marines would be the end all to the game. Nobody would beat them because fluff-wise they are ALL armored to the teeth so small arms "dont hurt them" but in the fact that is life (and tabletop life) a human FIST can kill that heavily armored marine.
Balance...gotta find it somewhere. Not saying this game is balanced but its nowhere near as horrific as the fluff indicates.

Funny enough, being a non-smoker, I'd much prefer the smell of smoke than the smell of corn chips and hot mayonnaise.

Please please please bathe, thrown on some cologne to mingle with the swamp-ass, waft some patchouli incense over yourself, something. So gross...