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That's really, really ugly.

I wonder how it'll size with the dog they already sculpted?

I'm not in a "I hate GW mantra"... I just haven't been terribly excited by anything at all lately. I had my mind set on painting Dreamforge stuff this summer, and it's almost as if that "wind" is stil coming out of me. I'm not in the mood for starting something new, I want to finish what I've got in the works instead.

BTW, thanks for the Cat's image, my update just said that photobucket's image had been removed.

Didn't the last update mention the K Snipers unlocked, yet I'm still showing 419K?

The total when they updated put them at 420, now it is down below 420. Today has been a relative roller coster of funding for them. Since it started at 416 this early morning.

The lack of a truly comprehensive update is killing the momentum.

so I don't see Vic's female Tannenburger WIPs to be in direct competition with the Kurganovas or Iron Empire. What I do see, actually, is $300k pledged for female miniatures just coincidently happening just before Vic finally starts sculpting the female guard we've been asking her to sculpt for over a year. I'm not suggesting that Vic is trying to play spoiler, but that RH's 1st-day $300k might have been enough market research by proxy to finally spur Vic to take her own female troops out of the concept art stage where they have apparently been for some time, and into the beginnings of sculpture.

Feel I should say something here since I seem to be getting a lot of mentions on a thread which is not about Vic minis.

I don't intend my work to be in direct competition with RH, I wish them every success. Its all good for the hobby. My interpretation of how women are represented on the battlefield is very different from RH. Its a different product and I don't expect a great deal of overlap between the ranges.

I've had WIP females on my bench for a long, long time. It is a subject that has come up again and again in relation to my range either through forums, FB and through private emails and messages.
The requests have gotten far more frequent lately, and this is possibly because of the RH project bringing the subject into the spotlight.

My range is currently going through big changes as it moves forward into resin, so it seems like a good time to show what progress I've made with the female sculpts (not much yet) as it gives me an indication of what projects to prioritize.

I really appreciate the interest, but I think it might be better to keep mentions of Vic minis in the Vic Minis thread.
Cheers, V

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
I wonder how it'll size with the dog they already sculpted?

I'm not in a "I hate GW mantra"... I just haven't been terribly excited by anything at all lately. I had my mind set on painting Dreamforge stuff this summer, and it's almost as if that "wind" is stil coming out of me. I'm not in the mood for starting something new, I want to finish what I've got in the works instead.

BTW, thanks for the Cat's image, my update just said that photobucket's image had been removed.

Didn't the last update mention the K Snipers unlocked, yet I'm still showing 419K?

It seems that shortly after the update went live at about 11:15PM EST the total dropped by about $1k. Oddly this is being put into today, (6/22) rather then 6/21 as would be appropriate (I was watching carefully, the change in pledges came not later then 11:40 PM).

According to their comments "Yes, about that: waist height to the heroines when sitting upright." Honestly, it seems impossible to imagine that the details on that figure could be reproduced with any kind of fidelity at that size...

Man, I'm like in withdraw, I want to know where the rest of my plastic if from Mark! (Referring to DFD, that is.)

 Buzzsaw wrote:
Man, I'm like in withdraw, I want to know where the rest of my plastic if from Mark! (Referring to DFD, that is.)

I'm still waiting for my 2nd Wave stuff from Kings of War and Sedition Wars.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
I wonder how it'll size with the dog they already sculpted?
I'm not in a "I hate GW mantra"... I just haven't been terribly excited by anything at all lately. I had my mind set on painting Dreamforge stuff this summer, and it's almost as if that "wind" is stil coming out of me. I'm not in the mood for starting something new, I want to finish what I've got in the works instead.
BTW, thanks for the Cat's image, my update just said that photobucket's image had been removed.
Didn't the last update mention the K Snipers unlocked, yet I'm still showing 419K?

Oh, I wasn't just (or even especially) talking about you for the "I hate GW" thing.

 Buzzsaw wrote:

BTW, thanks for the Cat's image, my update just said that photobucket's image had been removed.
According to their comments "Yes, about that: waist height to the heroines when sitting upright." Honestly, it seems impossible to imagine that the details on that figure could be reproduced with any kind of fidelity at that size...
Man, I'm like in withdraw, I want to know where the rest of my plastic if from Mark! (Referring to DFD, that is.)

Assume Christmas (maybe) for Wave 2 and June 2014 for Wave 3 (maybe).

For RH. Show the renders that are (supposedly?) completed. Enough of being drip-fed concept art.

I'm going to give this until Victoria Miniatures releases the new penal commander head set. If they fail to impress me by then, I'm pulling out and converting my own inquisitional henchmen.

I'm trying to stay out of this thread as much as possible but I do have a question I'd like clarified:

If I only want Heroines and don't care about the troops and support units, can I get a Lieutenant level pledge and just use all the available funds within that pledge to get Heroines?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I'm trying to stay out of this thread as much as possible but I do have a question I'd like clarified:

If I only want Heroines and don't care about the troops and support units, can I get a Lieutenant level pledge and just use all the available funds within that pledge to get Heroines?

Yes.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I'm trying to stay out of this thread as much as possible but I do have a question I'd like clarified:

If I only want Heroines and don't care about the troops and support units, can I get a Lieutenant level pledge and just use all the available funds within that pledge to get Heroines?

Yes.

Except that the KS-exclusive figure seems to be locked in as a choice, and I'm not sure how the "Value" of the digital art book fits in. The "$x worth of heroines, $y worth of troops and $z worth of support" are now just dollar-value numbers that can be added together and used for that many dollars worth of whatever in whatever mix you like. (Hence the grousing at their recent "look at the savings" posts, which are kinda meaningless in the context of mix-and-match monies).

 Azazelx wrote:



The "Oversculpted boutique soldiers" is unnecessary. I get that you like Vic's work, but please don't go all raging fanboi for Vic while feeling a need to insult everything else. It's unbecoming.

I was actually trying to dig at the people claiming these sculpts could never be reproduced in plastic because of all the amazing and impossible details that reject the very notion of plastic. I quite like the actual renders, especially of the unaltered 28mm Kurganova Heavies, although I did laugh at the fact that people had to photoshop the breasts to look smaller. I would feel a lot better about buying their sculpts in bulk if I didn't feel like I was supporting a slightly-less-obnoxious Brother Vinnie.

I have never bought any of Vic's minis and generally find most of her work to be overpriced for what it is, although I admit I am not a member of her target demographic...or wasn't. For me, her new sculpts scratch exactly the same itch as the Raging Heroes minis I care about--badass soldiers who happen to be women--but without the guilt of supporting a cheesecake line indirectly. It's kind of like how I felt bad when I bought any Image Comics because a small portion of that money supported the existence of Rob Liefeld.

Also, I've got no issue with you or anyone else finding other things to spend money on right now over Kickstarting your life away, but Vic has said that she hopes to have some females hopefully by the end of the year. That's still 6-odd months, which is not exactly "right now" and arguably "soonish". (I'd pay it as "soonish" in Kickstarter time, though! )

I figured that "right now" in a Raging Heroes thread covered through Jan 2014. Also, I need a few months to recover from Robotech, et al., anyway.


EDIT: And that's another mascot that looks amazing. If they made a $15 or so pledge for just the mascots, I'd find this kickstarter a lot more enticing.

 Azazelx wrote:
Yes.

Except that the KS-exclusive figure seems to be locked in as a choice, and I'm not sure how the "Value" of the digital art book fits in. The "$x worth of heroines, $y worth of troops and $z worth of support" are now just dollar-value numbers that can be added together and used for that many dollars worth of whatever in whatever mix you like. (Hence the grousing at their recent "look at the savings" posts, which are kinda meaningless in the context of mix-and-match monies).

Ok thanks. That makes sense. So if my (hypothetical) $150 contained 3 Heroines, 6 Troops and 2 Support I could ignore that and just get 15 $10 heroines, for example.

Correct HBMC!

Thanks guys!

No problem!

Love the cat thing (never understood the bits of hate towards the kurganovas snipers either). Would make for a good Dark Mechanicus mascot. I'll definitely buy some vic females (and males), because they the variety of options being presented is huge, I've just been waiting for the right material. In the same way I would love to see all the RH miniatures in hard plastic (or at the very least proper resin - thinking of Mierce Miniatures), because I will be converting them and converting metal tends to leave me with sliced up thumbs!

Well, given the length of time they took to post Update #20 I find it somewhat underwhelming in content. Whilst there's nothing overly outstanding about Jinx, imho, I don't think an entire update pretty much devoted to one freebie SG is the right way to go at the moment.

I feel that we needed a bigger update, one that at least mentioned the fact that they've got 3d prints in hand and are working on some photos. An update that gave us more stretch goals to look forwards to, gave the next few days some structure up to the $450k/$500k mark to try and get some of the momentum back. Whereas the little snippet at the bottom of the update about another update on Sunday with SGs just feels tacked on as an afterthought. Though I guess with the way things are going, we're unlikely to need more SGs before then, especially after the drop in pledge figures following the update.


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Oh, looks like not everyone is happy with the current status of the KS. There's currently both an EB$352 Captain and an EB$487Major available.

 vic wrote:

I really appreciate the interest, but I think it might be better to keep mentions of Vic minis in the Vic Minis thread.
Cheers, V

Aye, even though I was also guilty of this on the previous page I'm going to have to agree, so from now on if we can keep comments on Vic's stuff in her thread, it would be much appreciated. Channelling the spirit of rule two into the thread.

I am expecting update 20 to be a stop gap and update 21 showing actual 3D prints and maybe other work, I quite like the giant Sphinx cat, was hoping for a female one, but with so many piercings there is no way I will paint it like mine, so ok male.

The way this swings the last few days is amazing now it is at 42,5K it jumped 1k in 5 minutes?

Anyway I am really waiting for the next update.

No, it is sitting solidly around the 420 mark now. It keeps jumping below and then back it though.

Aye, its certainly stalled the past few days, and lack of updates seems to be a major contributing factor.

I understand why they are going the path they are going, but I do think at this point biting the bullet and checking in a few quick big stretch goals every five thou for about $25K would help tremendously.

I also think they want to get the range unlocked first, give folks a reason to spend more money, then space out larger gaps between free goals, or totally new models they are adding on top.

Mantic did well with Deadzone by adding things later on that it seemed they had maybe rolled off a thought on, but until the success of the kickstarter exploded wouldn't have even thought of adding. Reaper was similar adding more lines after lines as it ballooned
Obviously I agree with the statement they don't want to get caught out by shipping etc, but I still think they would do a lot more with this kickstarter, if they just unlocked everything tomorrow.. and then started adding new unexpected units or other things at much larger stretch goals to cover the costs.

Right now it seems a lot of people are getting cold feet because they are not so certain everything can be unlocked in time, and if RH can handle the madness of updates on the last day.

Morathi, I completely agree.

I am just sitting on my EB Commander 230 pledge simply in hopes that I get the ones I really want, even my most conservative goals require 8 minis we don't have unlocked get unlocked... and that is 80k worth of stretch goals.

A tad surprised they didn't announce what the post 420k goal would be.

I was perhaps expecting too much from the latest update.

Its the Sphynx cat.

Edit
BOW features TTG in their weekender, lets see if this brings a bump

Well, they promised that they'd show us the next few stretch goals now, but they are stretching that out with a freebie preview and the promise to show off the next stretch goals that were supposed to go up today, tomorrow. Yay..

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:


I also think they want to get the range unlocked first, give folks a reason to spend more money, then space out larger gaps between free goals, or totally new models they are adding on top.

....but I still think they would do a lot more with this kickstarter, if they just unlocked everything tomorrow.. and then started adding new unexpected units or other things at much larger stretch goals to cover the costs.

Right now it seems a lot of people are getting cold feet because they are not so certain everything can be unlocked in time, and if RH can handle the madness of updates on the last day.

Yeh, I think this would work. They wouldn't even have to unlock everything. Say they just unlocked all the troops, all the support, and the 3 commanders in one go. This would allow the people building armies to really confidently stay in because they know they'll be able to get the bulk of their force. They could then just leave the mechas and remaining heroines to be unlocked over time. I think it would stop a lot of the people who are sitting on the fence from pulling out because they can't build an army from the faction they want. Right now all the unlocks are spread over the 3 factions leaving none of them fully complimented.

Don't worry Brook! I promise it will be tomorrow's update, tomorrow!

Well they promised Jinx later that day and the sculpts/ prints tomorrow, they still can do that with an update later today, although I expected this to happen on Sunday.

 Buzzsaw wrote:
According to their comments "Yes, about that: waist height to the heroines when sitting upright." Honestly, it seems impossible to imagine that the details on that figure could be reproduced with any kind of fidelity at that size...

Judging from the similar sized "Walter, the Renaissance dog" that is part of the limited Königsmark sister box they won't have a problem transferring the concept into a worthwhile miniature.