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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

For the record I too support the idea of Codex: Crusade, Templars and Sisters together at last!

Why is it that people always want to bundle Sisters in with others? Can't they have their own Codex? :\

It's is awesome news...hopefully my wife gets a job so ill have money for some new goodies!

If you guys read his blog, he still is saying SM September. So its not Orks and BT next, its that they'll be 2013 releases.

 Billagio wrote:
Man, I hope Orks are next! We need some lovin!

6th edition Orks:
Lots of Boyz movin and shootin, maybe a Klaw Nob in case you needs to crack a tank. 2 types of Boyz' da shooty kind and da krumpin kind.
Lots of Lootas coz shootin lots is da boss.
Warboss with Nobs in a wagon; maybe 6th gives Orks a Rock (drop pod) to get da Boss krumpin faster.
Warboss biker with Nob bikers to get krumpin fast and being tough.
KFFMeks in case you wants to run Wagons and Trukks.
Kans or Planes as points allow. DOr if you wanna make a different type of army.

Orks still are rock hard in 6th. Sure, the drop in cover from 4+ to 5+ hurt (but 4+ was ridiculous....and you can always dump an Aegis line midfield to run up to and get the 4+ cover until you hop the wall and assault). While 6th may formally bring some cool new Orkyness to your army (Ork themed ADL, Supplements like the original Armagedon "Speed Freaks" list, maybe even bring giant squigoths as a heavy transport into 40K) I imagine the baseline builds will remain the same:
Lots of Boys to score and torrent your enemy with tons of dice, Nobs for serious bashing, and the Warboss to make make unique stuff (Nobs, bikes, etc) scoring.
And they will present the same problem to your opponent:
Can I kill enough Boyz before turn 3 to survive the assault? Whats that...Night Fight turn 1...I'm boned!

 Lobukia wrote:
If you guys read his blog, he still is saying SM September. So its not Orks and BT next, its that they'll be 2013 releases.

So eh, the only new bit is mentioning BT then yes? As ork & guard were mentioned previously as being on the update list next year (Hastings I think?)
Of course one could read this as BT rolled into the C: SM, which would prove both predictions true (in a sense).

Yaaaay, for Orks and yaaay for Third war of Armageddon!!!!

Pleeeeease get Flash Gitz fixed! Pleeeease give me a new Ghazzy model! All decent Warbosses are a head bigger than him! That's unacceptable for the prophet of the Waaagh!!!

from what i understand, its not stand alone black templars, its space marines, with a black templar "supplement" kind of like the eldar/tau supplements

I would put orks in October as Faet said purely cos GW loves to put bad puns on the covers of white dwarf and Orktober is too good to pass up! The only others that work are januwaaghry and februwaaaghry but they don't sound quite as good!

Edit: just thought wasn't there an Ork wave rumour floating about earlier in the year? It could be that rather than the new codex early.

 curran12 wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

For the record I too support the idea of Codex: Crusade, Templars and Sisters together at last!

Why is it that people always want to bundle Sisters in with others? Can't they have their own Codex? :\

As a sister of battle players there is only one reason I want to see this. I want to see a black templar chaplain leading a squad of sister repentia. Someone write a fanfiction of this now.

 curran12 wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

For the record I too support the idea of Codex: Crusade, Templars and Sisters together at last!

Why is it that people always want to bundle Sisters in with others? Can't they have their own Codex? :\

People are always "lobbying" for Templars to be folded back into the Vanilla Codex as well, with a "Codex: Religious Nutjobs" there'd at least be a Codex for our respective armies.

 -Loki- wrote:


We should be so lucky.

5th edition was the Imperial edition. 6th is giving the mistreated xenos a fair shake, and it feels like a better edition because of it.

I don't see how the Xenos were mistreated in 5th edition when most of the Imperial Codices that were updated were either ancient or rather rubbish. If we ignore the Vanilla Codex, there's Blood Angels (who had a WD "Codex"), Space Wolves (who were a 3rd edition book), Grey Knights (who had a 3rd edition book), Imperial Guard (who had a really weak 4th edition book) and Sisters of Battle (Sisters of Battle). Xenos-wise both Dark Eldar and Necrons, the forgotten weirdos of 3rd edition, got rather nice updates and became popular armies once more. 'Nids got updated (although the Codex flopped) as well.

I don't know if the "Parting Shot" in White Dwarf means anything, but it featured Orks. I didn't know whether this was going back to the old White Dwarf days when there would be a hint of what was to come on the back page.

It's not a very subtle hint, but then again GW marketing strategy is a bit all over the place so who can know.

I guess it would make sense given the amount of effort put into the Armageddon warzone stuff for Apoc, and it'd be cool to see some new Ork stuff, that said, I just can't dredge up any care for the Black Templars.

I predict Orks will get a mega-walker thingy and Templars will get some sort of absurd churchy/swordy thing.

Orks orks orks orks orks orks orks orks



Orks...

I doubt the black templars will...
I mean they'll probably get a spehs mahren codex supplement...

Better than getting 'white dwarf'd' right?

That's thrown a sabo in the works with the rumours and details I was given on the Marine Codex.

I knew Orks were this year, but Marines were due before them. For the first time, my source is wrong.

Puscifer wrote:
That's thrown a sabo in the works with the rumours and details I was given on the Marine Codex.

I knew Orks were this year, but Marines were due before them. For the first time, my source is wrong.

Well, he isn't wrong YET.

Thats right make way for the REAL men, the unfaithful shall all fall beneath the feet of crusaders.

God I so hope this is true, Templars, the greatest chapter ever conceived, released for christmas.

Let it be so.

As much as I would LOVE this was true, I'm taking this with so much salt it would only aggravate my hyper-tension issues.

It's just such a massive change from the previous rumors, it's a bit suspicious.

But again, I would LOVE for this to be true. Black Templars are BADA$$, and orks ARE FRAKKING AWESOME!

Come on BT's... come on... *fingers crossed*

If faeit is sticking with C:SM next then I think that is further credence to BT being a supplement.

On hand one: Hooray! My Templars have been gathering dust for a few years and I'd love an excuse to pull them out (poorly painted though they may be.) My Orks have been sitting around 'almost finished' since 6th Ed dropped; I needed to change the list I had around a bit, but didn't want to spend money on an army with a stale codex.

On hand two: Boo! I just finished my Dark Angels and was looking forward to playing them for awhile before I got distracted with something else.

A supplement angers me only because I will probably have to buy the SM codex too but as long as I:

- Get to see new artwork
- Get glorious fluff to read
- A huge crusader dread

December for warhammer shall be sang to peoples grand children for generations to come.

I'm not happy with that Black Legion supplement. Give me my stand alone Word Bearers and I will consider getting back into 40K!

I do not see a full codex for the BT.I think it may be a supplement for them.

As to the next few months rumours,i have seen a lot of chat and belief behind it being lizardmen,blood bowl and then C:SM for the xmas rush.

 DarthSpader wrote:
from what i understand, its not stand alone black templars, its space marines, with a black templar "supplement" kind of like the eldar/tau supplements

Vanillas with a BT chaser sounds like a good guess. Even with what GW's been doing this year, it's a little surprising to hear Orks before the new year. Still, maybe they'll arrive in November? Like so:

Aug - Lizardmen
Sept - Blood Bowl
Oct - SMs (w/ BTs?)
Nov - Orks
Dec - Terrain/paint/supplies as usual?

My guess would be a SM codex first and then Orks.

Why?

Its time for another imperial codex, as someone else said before, we just had two xenos in a row.
Sure the current SM codex isn't really old but this is GWs poster boys!
They will never let their Space Marines fall behind.
Also, I belive they will make a new system for different chapters, not with special characters like they have today.
And that Black Templars will be inluded in the codex some how. What makes BT different from C:SM anyway? It's just some small details.

I think the Orks will come next, because they are one of the oldest codexes still out there (but still kicking butt) exept for Sisters and Black Templars.
They dont have much competitive options left now. And as soon as a codex is forced to auto include sertain options (lootas) its a sign that the book is getting old.
Alot of options were lost in the 6th: Kans, Snikrot, Nobs (not on bike), sluggas, buggies...

 gorgon wrote:
Dec - Terrain/paint/supplies as usual?

New Hobbit film.

 Vaktathi wrote:
I guess it would make sense given the amount of effort put into the Armageddon warzone stuff for Apoc, and it'd be cool to see some new Ork stuff, that said, I just can't dredge up any care for the Black Templars.

I predict Orks will get a mega-walker thingy and Templars will get some sort of absurd churchy/swordy thing.

Orks already have a couple of Mega-walkers. The Stompa, an apoc unit, and the Mega-dred, from FW, which FW makes. And if Orks need a big MC model, they don't need to make a big walker when they have the Squiggoth they can use. It's old enough that GW could make their own version in plastic, despite FW having a model for the big squiggoth. They did it with the Dakkajet vs the FW Ork Fighta after all.

Meh. A Black Templars codex this soon? Call me skeptical....and I even play them. Hopefully, the codex will have more than one troop choice...LOL.

 Medium of Death wrote:
I don't know if the "Parting Shot" in White Dwarf means anything, but it featured Orks. I didn't know whether this was going back to the old White Dwarf days when there would be a hint of what was to come on the back page.

It's not a very subtle hint, but then again GW marketing strategy is a bit all over the place so who can know.

The "Parting Shot" means literally nothing. I looked back at the last ~6 months of issues and there's no correlation between that picture and any upcoming issue. It's just a cool picture for the sake of a cool picture.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
How trustworthy is Faeit again? I know he's no Harry or Hastings...but that's it. Should I be excited for my Templars, or am I looking at a more likely continuous disappointment?

He isn't. His anonymous stuff is basically a crap shoot.

Natfka on Faeit 212 - Total rumors: (173 TRUE) / (231 FALSE) / (34 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)