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blackarmchair wrote:
What has everyone been running as far as lists go? I'm a long-time player just starting Sisters and I've been following this thread awhile. I'm starting to wrap my head around the unit-by-unit tactics but I haven't seen anyone put it all together in a way that really speaks to me yet.

Any ideas? What lists have you guys had the most success/fun with?

I'm still having fun with the 'priest bomb' blob squad. Jaco, 4 priests, 3 with bp and mauls, one with lits of faith, 20 battle sisters, special/heavy weapons of choice, put an inquisitor with the scout book and you're laughing.

Combine this with 2 squads of Melta doms in rhino and 2 Exorcists, then fill out the rest off your list with BSS in MM immos. Solid and scary.

D

blackarmchair wrote:
What has everyone been running as far as lists go? I'm a long-time player just starting Sisters and I've been following this thread awhile. I'm starting to wrap my head around the unit-by-unit tactics but I haven't seen anyone put it all together in a way that really speaks to me yet.

Any ideas? What lists have you guys had the most success/fun with?

Seraphim with Celestine attached is rocking my world. Get them into position to shoot a priority enemy unit pop their faith so they have shred and watch the enemies of the Emperor burn. Then charge in to tie them up. On your opponents assault phase hit and run so you can either shoot that unit again or break away to engage something else. Celestine makes the hit and run tests taken on her Int 7 and she boosts their faith check LD to 10. Finally, Celestine is great at cutting through meq troops so don't worry if your normal girls don't hurt the enemy in cc too much, Celestine will do the heavy lifting until you can hit and run.

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I'm still having fun with the 'priest bomb' blob squad. Jaco, 4 priests, 3 with bp and mauls, one with lits of faith, 20 battle sisters, special/heavy weapons of choice, put an inquisitor with the scout book and you're laughing.

Combine this with 2 squads of Melta doms in rhino and 2 Exorcists, then fill out the rest off your list with BSS in MM immos. Solid and scary.

D

Actually, when you have a blob of 20 Battle Sisters plus 5-6 characters, you really want your "buff everyone" prayers to work: all those rerolls of to-wound and saves make a big impact. 4 priests means you are almost certain to get both of those off, and any surplus priest can try for smash then.

(Are priests rolling on their own natural Ld of 7 or on the unit's Ld? Can never bloody remember).

They now (7th) use their own leadership. The Litanies of Faith are really useful.

blackarmchair wrote:
What has everyone been running as far as lists go? I'm a long-time player just starting Sisters and I've been following this thread awhile. I'm starting to wrap my head around the unit-by-unit tactics but I haven't seen anyone put it all together in a way that really speaks to me yet.

Any ideas? What lists have you guys had the most success/fun with?

What points level are you going to start at? I only have enough models for about 750 points if I stretch it so I tend to just stick to a comfortable 500 points. I know Celestine and Jacobus are very popular for their own reasons that are apparent based on their rules and excorcists are pretty much an auto-include. Personally I don't like taking named characters and so I stick to the generic HQ choices. This is my 500 point list that I've had good success with:

HQ- Canoness, Power weapon, rosaries, melta bombs

Troops- Battle Sister Squad, 4 Battle Sisters, Veteran Sister Superior, Flamer, Heavy Flamer, Immolater Transport with TL MM
Troops- Battle Sister Squad, 4 Battle Sisters, Veteran Sister Superior, Flamer, Heavy Flamer, Immolater Transport with TL MM

Heavy Support- Retributors, 4 Retributors, Veteran Sister Superior, 4 Heavy Bolters

Points: 500

As I expand I'll be including the newly released assassins digi-dex into my roster.

My list is far from highly competitive btw. The others on this thread have some amazing lists built. Having said that I really enjoy this list and it's a great intro to some of the things Sisters have to offer. Last match I had I made 3 successful shield of faith rolls on one immolater from my opponents shooting. He dumped all his anti-armour firepower into it turn one and didn't even scratch it. Really lucky rolling on my part but still funny to watch your opponents face as he realizes his efforts were futile.

If Celestine is your warlord and is nearby, the priests can use her Ld? Also litanies is what makes the priest bomb because you succeed at all your War Hymns. I'd be interested to see if that unit would work just as well with Celestians. With Jacobus that's 3 furious charges, though I guess with the amount of S5 AP2 you put out, it might not matter.

Mavnas wrote:
If Celestine is your warlord and is nearby, the priests can use her Ld? Also litanies is what makes the priest bomb because you succeed at all your War Hymns. I'd be interested to see if that unit would work just as well with Celestians. With Jacobus that's 3 furious charges, though I guess with the amount of S5 AP2 you put out, it might not matter.

Yes Celestine's Warlord trait allows you to use her leadership for all aof and war hyms test. So as long as she is within range your priests are testing on LD 10

Typically in my battles she's way far away from all my other units , but I had a vision of a rhino/immo rush where every unit has a priest and Celestine is in the middle making them all sing their hymns better.

As a side note to using Celestine in the 21+ blob with Jacobus and company, in a recent League game at 2000 points she Tanked all 17 Wounds from a SM Fellblade (the AP3 7" Blast) quite happily loosing no Wounds...

I thank Pretre for that method of using her (Just Tanking for the blob until it reaches combat) and can recommend it to others. It's a pretty good replacement if (like me) you play pure sisters, with no Inquisition.

blackarmchair wrote:

 evildrcheese wrote:


I'm still having fun with the 'priest bomb' blob squad. Jaco, 4 priests, 3 with bp and mauls, one with lits of faith, 20 battle sisters, special/heavy weapons of choice, put an inquisitor with the scout book and you're laughing.

Combine this with 2 squads of Melta doms in rhino and 2 Exorcists, then fill out the rest off your list with BSS in MM immos. Solid and scary.

D

That's an interesting idea. I take it the priests are using smash for their hymns (maybe one would proc re-rolls to saves). That's actually make them pretty nasty in cc...

Remember Jacobus gets a War Hymn too, so I have re-roll saves, re-roll to wound, and Re-roll to wound and 3 priests smashing with maces. All going of automatically because of the Lits of Faith. Give the Inquisitor Rad and Psycochoke grenades for extra fun.

That's basically how I run it.

Priests use thier own LD? is that true of IG priests as well? and where is this covered in the book can anyone point me onto the correct page?

if so, i guess i just found 75 points back

If a Model has to make a leadership test, as opposed to a Unit, then the model uses its own leadership and not the highest amongst the Unit. In 6th Edition it was ambiguous on how it worked, but 7th Edition made it specifically clear. Have a look in the 7th BRB where it talks about Leadership tests.

That's why Sisters get the best Priests. For 15pts you get the Litanies of the Faith which makes the whole Unit auto-pass both War Hymn and Act of Faith tests. Astra Militarum and Inquisition Priests can't take the Litanies, so they're stuck with testing on Ld7 to activate the Hymns.

thx for the reply...

well that sux, sadface... no wonder IG cant place very well in major tournaments.

25 points for Zealot and Hatred is still really good though, especially when it applies to a big blob of Guardsmen. They've effectively replaced Commissars for making Guard blobs Fearless. Think of War Hymns as a nice little surprise when it goes off.

Sisters also get Celestine who can make all priests in 12" pass the test on a 10. Inquisition priests aren't ICs and AM priests don't get the full range of upgrade options.

Is Celestine the best warlord choice then?


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Also it is possible to do a solid ish list with what I have so far...two canonesses, Jacobus, two priests, 40 bolter sisters, four heavy flamers sisters, four meltagun sisters, two storm bolter sisters, 10 repentia, 6 seraphim and four exorcists

Ideally you want more Meltagun models, as well as transports. Without any transports, I'd probably look at blobbing a big group of Sisters (like 15-20), attaching Jacobus and another Priest and marching them into combat. You might struggle with vehicles though, because by the time you footslog your meltaguns to where they're needed it might be too late...

4 Exorcists are nice though - maybe go with two Combined Arms Detachments so you can fit all 4 into a Battle-Forged Army. Use Jacobus as one CAD's HQ and a Canoness as the HQ for the other CAD.

Celestine's trait is usually useless in the way that I run here (in the enemy's face killing his squishy, flammable troops far from my own), but I could see it becoming more of a thing if I had more units mechanized and scouting forward.

Keep in mind that Celestine is the ultimate in Slay the Warlord denial. If you choose not to roll for her standup, she doesn't give away the STW point.

I usually use Jacobus as my warlord for the 5++ on the blob though.

What do you guys think about a group of Repentia in a Land Raider Crusader augmented with a Priest and Chaplain?

 Unyielding Hunger wrote:
What do you guys think about a group of Repentia in a Land Raider Crusader augmented with a Priest and Chaplain?

I think you could do it better with an EBC or pretty much any other unit.

 pretre wrote:
I think you could do it better with an EBC or pretty much any other unit.

That bad? What about...I think they are called Celestians? If I remember right, aren't they the CC sister unit?
That being said, taking a Land Raider Crusader as transport, what would you recommend for decent composition. It's what, 12 models a Conclave? Off the top of my head, I would say 4 Crusaders, DCAs, and Arco-Flagellants.

Don't forget to add priests for smash and rerolls.


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Also, celestians aren't really a CC unit.

 pretre wrote:
Keep in mind that Celestine is the ultimate in Slay the Warlord denial. If you choose not to roll for her standup, she doesn't give away the STW point.

Be warned that actually trying this may get you labelled as a "TFG".

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Keep in mind that Celestine is the ultimate in Slay the Warlord denial. If you choose not to roll for her standup, she doesn't give away the STW point.

Be warned that actually trying this may get you labelled as a "TFG".

Hey, it's the rules as written.

I think it's interesting now that you could give a priest warlord to get book traits though.

 pretre wrote:
Hey, it's the rules as written.

Still wouldn't do it because it feels like cheating to me.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Hey, it's the rules as written.

Still wouldn't do it because it feels like cheating to me.

You gotta think that it's a pretty high cost to deny your opponent the point though. You're giving up a chance to bring Celestine back (and all the ass-whooping she would do) to do it.

 pretre wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Hey, it's the rules as written.

Still wouldn't do it because it feels like cheating to me.

You gotta think that it's a pretty high cost to deny your opponent the point though. You're giving up a chance to bring Celestine back (and all the ass-whooping she would do) to do it.

Yeah, but it's also taking the most favorable rules interpretation solely to deny that point too. RAW or not, I wouldn't play like that in that situation.