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Yeah, it's typically unclear GW rules design.

I'm looking forward to my Acheron Knight at Christmas and its synergy with an AS force.

I mean, it was the Knight to get: Massive Flamer of Doom + Heavy bolter. All it's missing is a pintle-mounted Multi-melta and the Holy Trinity is complete.

Homebrewed Sororitas knight with giant flamer and angel wings. Just sayin'.

Yeah, I just ordered an Acheron. I figure, I can use exorcists and Melta to pop open transports and the flamer to clean up. Of course, at the speed I paint, I will let you guys know how it works out sometime in 2016...

Also, my other figures are based on "snow" so I kind of want to make the knight with the giant flamers stand in a big puddle.

 Mythantor wrote:
Just wanted to open a new topic for the new codex.

My first thoughts?

Priests are now insanely good.
Simulcra are now an auto include.
Only 1 relic per character so no stacking up "Reroll failed saves" with "Eternal Warrior"

I want to hear the thoughts of the veteran Dakkanauts

I havent played since 5th where the Codex was White Dwarf......Where are the SOB rules located now?

 Smitty0305 wrote:
I havent played since 5th where the Codex was White Dwarf......Where are the SOB rules located now?

Black Library sells the ebook or iTunes sells the iVersion.

 SisterSydney wrote:
Homebrewed Sororitas knight with giant flamer and angel wings. Just sayin'.

Had a read through the rules, have you read the Acheron rules? (HERE)

You can pretty much use the exact same rules for the "Knight Angelus"
I mean, a Jump Pack exhaust, would it no be Hellstorm-shaped rather than simply a Large Blast?

You'd have to factor the "Jump" points cost, but the Pillar of Fire is actually much worse than what the Acheron has, so i'd say they cancel out (plus Acheron has Flank Speed) for the 2 Knights being the same price.

Fair point. But a lot of the Angelus's price is to reflect that it's a deep-striking Knight that crunches what it lands on instead of mishapping.... I might want to rebuild it based on the Acheron instead of the Paladin, though. Thanks.

Looks like the Sororitas still in the 2nd book - but of course get SFA whilst the Necrons and Blood Angels get more new stuff............

 Mr Morden wrote:
Looks like the Sororitas still in the 2nd book - but of course get SFA whilst the Necrons and Blood Angels get more new stuff............

The "18 Datasheets (...) Cryptan Alliance" might have something for the Adepta Sororitas force that survived? (false hope)

I mean, exterminatus is our field too right? Or was that only when we had our Inquisitors during the Witch Hunters Codex?

Looks like BA get drop pods . Look at the fast attack pic at the bottom...


http://www.blacklibrary.com/new-at-bl/gwde-codex-blood-angels.html

... which has what to do with the Sororitas?

 Psienesis wrote:
... which has what to do with the Sororitas?

Well....I have a Sisters army, a BA army, and was a little excited about the possibility of drop podding Dominions or Heavy flamer Retributor squads with my Battle Brothers...if I am not mistaken, this is a tactic thread and now this seems like a viable tactic to share with fellow Sororitas players... Is that a sufficient answer for you?

We've been able to 'Pod Sisters since C:SW. Fairly viable method of deployment, though (as always with any drop pod deployment), often best used for taking out as many high-value targets as possible before the inevitable counter-shooting.

Still, have used it to wreck a friend's Riptide.

Yes, a second way to get drop pods is good. And honestly, I think the jump pack happy BA might be a better fit for us than the SW. At the very least Celestine gets more options for an escort, especially if one of those comes with a way to deep strike without scatter.

At one point, long ago, White Dwarf published a "Dominica-pattern drop pod" for Sisters -- Clockwork Zion homebrewed an updated 6E or 7E version, I'll try to find the link. Is there an argument against Sisters having their own drop pods?

 SisterSydney wrote:
At one point, long ago, White Dwarf published a "Dominica-pattern drop pod" for Sisters -- Clockwork Zion homebrewed an updated 6E or 7E version, I'll try to find the link. Is there an argument against Sisters having their own drop pods?

Dying on impact maybe, but other than that... well, I guess it'd be beating a dead horse to say that Sisters need a real Codex update and model line revamp.

It was Citadel Journal, not White Dwarf, but yes they had drop pods in 3rd edition. Unfortunately, CJ was where FW is today. Some people allow it, some don't.

The whole 'non-Marines would get jelloed if they used drop pods' thing makes no sense to me. Either it hits the ground hard enough that there should be rolls to wound, or it doesn't, and anyone can use them.

 Paimon wrote:
The whole 'non-Marines would get jelloed if they used drop pods' thing makes no sense to me. Either it hits the ground hard enough that there should be rolls to wound, or it doesn't, and anyone can use them.

Yeah, I imagine the space saved by not having to carry marines would allow for more padding, re-entry systems.

 pretre wrote:

 Paimon wrote:
The whole 'non-Marines would get jelloed if they used drop pods' thing makes no sense to me. Either it hits the ground hard enough that there should be rolls to wound, or it doesn't, and anyone can use them.

Yeah, I imagine the space saved by not having to carry marines would allow for more padding, re-entry systems.

Not only that, but fluff-wise.

A human skin cell is a human skin cell.
I know Marines are supposed to have more organs / faster clot rates / poison immunity, etc, but it says nothing about simple cell biology.
If a Marine finger is not jello on landing, why would a normal human finger be?

I'd love to see someone find some fluff about how Space Marine fingers are augmented... maybe even toes? :p


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 SisterSydney wrote:
At one point, long ago, White Dwarf published a "Dominica-pattern drop pod" for Sisters -- Clockwork Zion homebrewed an updated 6E or 7E version, I'll try to find the link. Is there an argument against Sisters having their own drop pods?

Here you go: http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showthread.php?t=129308

=)

Mavnas wrote:
Yes, a second way to get drop pods is good. And honestly, I think the jump pack happy BA might be a better fit for us than the SW. At the very least Celestine gets more options for an escort, especially if one of those comes with a way to deep strike without scatter.

Yeah, but you can use C:SW (or any Codex for that matter) to homebrew your own local Chapter that doesn't have the history with the Sisters that the SW do. Just pointing out that the BA having DT/FA pods doesn't actually bring anything new to the table.

 Psienesis wrote:

Mavnas wrote:
Yes, a second way to get drop pods is good. And honestly, I think the jump pack happy BA might be a better fit for us than the SW. At the very least Celestine gets more options for an escort, especially if one of those comes with a way to deep strike without scatter.

Yeah, but you can use C:SW (or any Codex for that matter) to homebrew your own local Chapter that doesn't have the history with the Sisters that the SW do. Just pointing out that the BA having DT/FA pods doesn't actually bring anything new to the table.

Also the Sisters / Wolves issues are pretty recent in 40k history IIRC

 Psienesis wrote:

Mavnas wrote:
Yes, a second way to get drop pods is good. And honestly, I think the jump pack happy BA might be a better fit for us than the SW. At the very least Celestine gets more options for an escort, especially if one of those comes with a way to deep strike without scatter.

Yeah, but you can use C:SW (or any Codex for that matter) to homebrew your own local Chapter that doesn't have the history with the Sisters that the SW do. Just pointing out that the BA having DT/FA pods doesn't actually bring anything new to the table.

Elite jump troops

SW have TWC but it competes for slots with the pods. SW have nice things the BA don't have, but it's not nothing. When putting multiple SoB squads, I'd like the tax I pay for those pods to buy me things that synergise with the pod assault. Also good jump troops mean I can drop the Seraphim for a third Doms squad.

 Celtic Strike wrote:

Also, I finished up episode 3 of the saga of Sister Kathryn. The Sisters lead a strike against an Imperial Guard harboring a corrupt Inquisitor.

You actually got to fire with the Heavy stubber?!? lol, I liked that part for some reason

Yeah, first time ever. Even did a glancing hit but he jinked it.


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And I'll go back to never shooting it again

Sisters getting some more pictures, but probably no new rules. Exterminatus: (Top Right)

SPOILER: rumored releases


Plasma pistol? Flamer Pistol? At first glance it looked like a Thunder Hammer

Yeah I put that image up earlier

The other interesting bit on the same page is that some bright spark is sending Seth to rescue the surviving Sisters - yeah that will go well............

but at least its something - despite them not bothering to put any specific rules in.

Well, Sisters have had a presence in both books so far. 'Nids got a bunch of great new releases leading into this, Blood Angels got their Codex, and Necron seem to be next.

Its not impossible to suggest a Sisters Codex shows up before this series ends?

 Mr Morden wrote:
Yeah I put that image up earlier

The other interesting bit on the same page is that some bright spark is sending Seth to rescue the surviving Sisters - yeah that will go well............

but at least its something - despite them not bothering to put any specific rules in.

Ah yes, i knew you uploaded the first one, and for some reason i saw that one as the same... Sorry for the double post.

Personally it at least means they're not scrapping (Unless it's the last big push with Extinction event at the end) lol