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I still like Alien, Aliens, and Predator quite a bit. Alien3 and Prometheus both have some really interesting ideas and visuals but tend to be suggested reading more than primary texts, so to speak. I can live without the other movies, though admittedly I haven't seen Predators yet so no strong opinion there.

Some of the comics have been great, and I really enjoyed the original PC Alien vs. Predator. The SNES Alien3 game was fun as well.

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THIS, as in AVP is my home turf, shortly after my enlightenment (finishing the sixth grade and becoming smart) I began watching these movies again, and again, and again.
so, alien resurrection was sad (read the book, the movie is gak balls) but had some great moments, particularly when colonel whatsit throws the grenade in the escape pod.
alien 3 was very good, but sad because newt and hicks died, lazy writing btw. aliens 2 (both book and movie) WAS AWESOME, for any of you who don't know just this bit of trivia: in the movie old-guy gets knocked out by crates, in the book it is an alien sting. alien was epic, to much half nude Ripley for my taste because apparently the director wanted to make sure you knew she was female and not a masculine transvestite. predator was good, love how it laughs at the end. predator 2 was terrible, but I liked the xenomorph skull in the temple/ship.
predators was EPIC, I loved how the Asian (sorry) guy died, in honourable combat. not to mention the mini-gun Russian. or the fact they included the girl from predator. the brute preds were cool, I like how all of them (but the chief one) were all very honourable, and then the chief one was an donkey-cave and got cablunked. I liked how they reversed the trick from the fist one. final thing about predators is that I wish I knew why the (we call them) lone-wolf pred was on the cross. AVP, was AMAZING my favourite scene was when the predator picked up the alien by the tail and flung it into a column. loved the queen design, loved how they distinguished the warriors from the drones so subtly, loved how the old dude (again sorry haven't watched it for ages) tried flaming the pred. loved how the pred was designed. and (as I am obsessed with anything that can turn invisible) I loved the pred in it in general.
AVP 2 wasn't as good. Exploding pregnant ladies is not really my thing. plus all of the characters were stupid (save the mum). I did love how they got an APC.
vid game time. I have only played the recent AVP game, and colonial marines (shudders). AVP gqame is awesome. I love anything stealth/invisible, so being the xenomoph was fething EPIC and being the marine was super creeps (beep... beep... beep, beep beebeepbeep, hiss, gunfire, creepy music, beep...)
and I am done, back to my cave.


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ooh, forgot Prometheus. worm thingies = auto-creeps, xeno-vombies = ROAR, proto-xenos = cool, engineers = boring. I still don't understand why David poisoned doctor guy.

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 Ahtman wrote:
admittedly I haven't seen Predators yet so no strong opinion there.


it's not bad; an unapologetic monster movie with no pretensions towards anything else.

The hybrid alien from AvP:R was easily the worst part of the film and they could have substantially improved the movie simply by utterly removing it and changing nothing else at all. I still liked the movie though; as MGS said it's the closest we got to Earth War.

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To what extent are the various films Horror, SF or Action?

For example, in my view the original Alien is a horror film that is set in space but could as easily have been set on a submarine or on a sailing yacht and had substantially the same plot.

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 BrookM wrote:
Regarding Alien 3 and Resurrection, Jim Sterling has a few interesting things to say for both movies, well worth the watch:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/movie-defense-force/6678-Alien-3

Alien 3 was mostly a good movie, and I agree with most of what he said, but the "The alien always wins" argument is just idiotic. Alien 3 undermined Aliens the same way Terminator 3 undermined Judgement Day, and that's nothing to be proud of.

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 Kilkrazy wrote:
To what extent are the various films Horror, SF or Action?

For example, in my view the original Alien is a horror film that is set in space but could as easily have been set on a submarine or on a sailing yacht and had substantially the same plot.


I'd consider Alien to be essentially a haunted house movie, really.

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Predators was okay, but I hate how the old predator was portrayed in it as a different race/subspecies and got beaten by the new one as if to say "Hey, these new predators are better than the old ones!"

And in AvP I hate how they made the predators into these enormous body builders. I think the Yautja should be strong *and* athletic so you can imagine them doing some climbing. They also changed the thermal vision. I didn't like that. Another thing I didn't like the ridiculously long overcompensating wrist blades.
   
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 Ouze wrote:
 Kilkrazy wrote:
To what extent are the various films Horror, SF or Action?

For example, in my view the original Alien is a horror film that is set in space but could as easily have been set on a submarine or on a sailing yacht and had substantially the same plot.


I'd consider Alien to be essentially a haunted house movie, really.

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Yes, a haunted house, a cabin in the woods, some enclosed space with an unseen menace stalking it. They are variations on the same theme.

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AlexHolker wrote:Alien 3 was mostly a good movie, and I agree with most of what he said, but the "The alien always wins" argument is just idiotic. Alien 3 undermined Aliens the same way Terminator 3 undermined Judgement Day, and that's nothing to be proud of.

Part of the problem with Alien 3 is that the original screenplay for it is so, so much better than what they filmed. Once you know what Cameron wanted to do versus what actually ended up being done, it'll sour any affection you might've had for it.

Kilkrazy wrote:To what extent are the various films Horror, SF or Action?

Alien is a horror movie. Aliens is a Vietnam movie.



As to the watching order...Alien, Aliens. Stick Predator in wherever you like. Don't watch anything beyond those three, though.
   
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 Ouze wrote:
They existed on laserdisc, but who the hell owned a laserdisc player? No one I knew, the discs were $90.

The feth is a laserdisc? Something from the stone age?

Edit: Jesus this thing is huge!


Seriously you could use that to cut someone in half.


You're spoiling Predator 2!


Also, someone mentioned a Batman vs Predator fan film without providing a link. This person should feel ashamed.

   
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Also, someone mentioned a Batman vs Predator fan film without providing a link. This person should feel ashamed.


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There's also a Batman vs. Predator comic I have sitting around somewhere

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The entirety of sci-fi horror peaked with Aliens. It's Khorne and everything else is Blood Pact with a flashlight.

Alien, Aliens and Predator are all excellent movies, very watchable. Alien 3 and Predator 2 are okay if you are really into the franchises. AvP and associated should die in a fire. I can't comment on Prometheus as I haven't seen it but as I understand it is only tangentially part of the franchise.

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Predators was better than predator 2, but missed the charm of the original film, for me - I mean, the original was cheese, but it was a great Arnie film.

As far as the Alien series, the original was great, Aliens is my favourite, Alien 3 sucked, IMO, and Resurrection was... not so bad actually - I certainly preferred the characters in Resurrection to the Alien 3 cast.
For me, Ripley was ok in the first, bearable in the 2nd, and overacting painfully in the next 2.

Prometheus was Meh, impressive visuals, yes, and Fassbender was quite good in it - but it seemed a bit lacking.

As for the AvP's... never sat through a whole one, so I won't comment

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I liked Predator 2, although it was very much a film of its day.
AVP were awful.
I had hoped they'd use the storyline from the Dark Horse comic.

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I liked all 4 Alien films'. the first is a great horror film (As has previously been stated the setting can easily be changed so not really a pure sci-fi film) Aliens is really good and the contrast with the previous film works quite well.
alien 3 & Resurrection do not stand up to their predecessors but it would be remarkable if that did happen (for any franchise with similar precedent as well) 3 Does well enough as the conclusion to the trilogy and gives Ripley some finalisation. And resurrection does have some good moments in it, as well as moving the setting to the post Weyland/Yutnai time and having second generation androids as well as Alien fighting Ron Perlman
I really liked Prometheus as well. although many people didn't like it (And the original script for it was far superior) But it still laid down the foundations (hopefully they actually complete the trilogy) and helped them 'demystify' the engineers to an extent.

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 Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:
But it still laid down the foundations (hopefully they actually complete the trilogy) and helped them 'demystify' the engineers to an extent.


I thought that was the worst part. The space jockey in the first alien was inhuman and creepy. He added a lot to the atmosphere of the film and really helped sell the derelict ship as something beyond human experience. Finding out that he was just System Lord Judge Holden in Giger pajamas really killed a lot of my fascination for the deeper background in alien. Also, his motivations for raging out to the point of ignoring the angry space vagina are so obscure in the film that I have to turn to fansplanations about humanity killing Space Jesus to make sense of the movie.

That's not to say there aren't other problems, like the stupid scientists who pet cobras or try to outrun rolling objects Benny Hill style or pilots in Trillion Dollar Spacecraft who leave the bridge unmanned during the most important mission in human history just so they can boink a robot, or the other robot's character swinging all over the place. Then there's the unsatisfying ADD approach to the thematic elements in the film. And the inconsistent "rules" where the black oil turns space worms into killer space cobras, sometimes turn people into zombies and sometimes turns them into space worm infested genestealers who father space squidginas that father generic non-Giger alien rip-offs that look worse than anything from Alien Resurrection.

But the C-section scene did elevate the material somewhat. It also payed lip service to the murals Giger painted for the original of the alien as some sort of fertility goddess from hell, so there is that.

All in my opinion, of course.

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Suggesting that Weyland Yutani were bought out by Walmart is the stupidest thing from that entire movie.

I enjoy Alien 3. It's a very well shot film. The plot is pretty solid IMHO and while Hicks & Newt dying isn't what I would have wanted I think it was a very interesting decision and surprised it was one the Fox backed. Considering the history of the movie I think Fincher did a great job.

This is the space station from Aliens, I would have liked to have seen something set there. Not quite Earth, but enough to see Wayland Yutani undone. I always figured they could have had their Bio-Wep division in there somewhere.


Prometheus has had a fair amount of cuts/edits to it, and the original story was heavily rewritten which I think speaks to the confusion. I like the concept of it, but the cast were terrible at portraying scientists. I have to say that some of the cut scenes do explain some of the actions. David was vastly under used in that movie. Having the Engineer rip his head off was a waste. In saying that the extended scene and apparent dialogue really does make that moment when he kills Wayland much more understandable.

This is quite an interesting video that critiques the film.


   
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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
 Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:
But it still laid down the foundations (hopefully they actually complete the trilogy) and helped them 'demystify' the engineers to an extent.



That's not to say there aren't other problems, like the stupid scientists who pet cobras or try to outrun rolling objects Benny Hill style or pilots in Trillion Dollar Spacecraft who leave the bridge unmanned during the most important mission in human history just so they can boink a robot, or the other robot's character swinging all over the place. Then there's the unsatisfying ADD approach to the thematic elements in the film. And the inconsistent "rules" where the black oil turns space worms into killer space cobras, sometimes turn people into zombies and sometimes turns them into space worm infested genestealers who father space squidginas that father generic non-Giger alien rip-offs that look worse than anything from Alien Resurrection.

But the C-section scene did elevate the material somewhat. It also payed lip service to the murals Giger painted for the original of the alien as some sort of fertility goddess from hell, so there is that.

All in my opinion, of course.


Here is the original script Link
It makes more sense and better justifies the scientists' actions throughout the film

as for the outrun objects thing I feel it's a natural instinct if you see something you identify as bad/harmful and about to kill you adrenaline either kicks in or doesn't (Fight or Flight response) and if you flee you're going to try and get as far away from the harmful item in question and not going to think rationally like if I run at 90 degrees instead of directly away I can get away from it

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Watching Predators at this very moment - most enjoyable.

I liked pretty much all of the Predator / AVP / Aliens films. Even liked quite a bit of Resureaction - the two female leads are very good in it.

Really liked the 2nd AVP film - although they really should just make the first graphic novel into a film.

Found Promethius a wasted opportunity - the android was awesome - pretty much everything else was for me a let down - Charlize Theron wasted - I thought she was going to be a female version of Burke- or soemthing else enteriely - but she had nothing to do for the whole film. The "Aliens" elements were also very weak.

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As an Alien(s) film nut here is my honest opinion.

Alien was excellent but very drawn out i.e. the last third of the film. Still for the first 2/3 it was awesome - As a horror space movie.

Aliens ramped it up a notch, again a really awesome 2/3 but it still sort of boiled downed to Ripley running around Vs.....(the) Xenomorph. That does not detract from either of them as classics. Just a tiny bit samey imho.

Alien 3, despite the "hate" it got upon release was very solid. I personally just wanted them to "expand the Galaxy/Company/Earth/Weland" angle, which they touched on but not enough.

AvP was watchable for the first time, decent premise, decent execution (until the end), decent production values.

AvP2 - pure f**king trainwreck -dont even acknowledge it tbh as a film. End of!

Predator 1 - imho, one of the best sci fi "horror" films ever made. If one leaves the "horror" element out of it, then the best sci fi (albeit - contemporary) films made.

Predator 2 - a few lovely homage to the original but just dosent gel as well - a touch cheesey in places but still good.

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what is wrong with AVP? also, I just realised that the engineers don't have ears. dirp.

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 the shrouded lord wrote:
what is wrong with AVP? .


It sucked. Sucky acting, sucky story, huge swarms of pyramid Aliens fighting douchey Preds, the whole deal. Sucked. Sorry if you liked that sucky movie. You like a movie that sucks. We've all been there.

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Thanks for the videos, guys. The Prometheus criticism one only seemed to hit half of my problems with the movie, though...


 Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:
 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
 Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:
But it still laid down the foundations (hopefully they actually complete the trilogy) and helped them 'demystify' the engineers to an extent.



That's not to say there aren't other problems, like the stupid scientists who pet cobras or try to outrun rolling objects Benny Hill style or pilots in Trillion Dollar Spacecraft who leave the bridge unmanned during the most important mission in human history just so they can boink a robot, or the other robot's character swinging all over the place. Then there's the unsatisfying ADD approach to the thematic elements in the film. And the inconsistent "rules" where the black oil turns space worms into killer space cobras, sometimes turn people into zombies and sometimes turns them into space worm infested genestealers who father space squidginas that father generic non-Giger alien rip-offs that look worse than anything from Alien Resurrection.

But the C-section scene did elevate the material somewhat. It also payed lip service to the murals Giger painted for the original of the alien as some sort of fertility goddess from hell, so there is that.

All in my opinion, of course.


Here is the original script Link
It makes more sense and better justifies the scientists' actions throughout the film

as for the outrun objects thing I feel it's a natural instinct if you see something you identify as bad/harmful and about to kill you adrenaline either kicks in or doesn't (Fight or Flight response) and if you flee you're going to try and get as far away from the harmful item in question and not going to think rationally like if I run at 90 degrees instead of directly away I can get away from it



Is there a summary for the script? My experience with Prometheus has left me with no motivation to read 100+ pages of some kind of never-was version of the film. Like A:R, I find it easier and better simply to remove Prometheus from my personal Aliens head-canon.


Also, assuming I agreed with your premise about adrenaline making people turkey-stupid (which I don't), there are still three problems to consider:

1. She was heavily implied to be an android, which means adrenaline shouldn't affect her (although I suppose shoddy programming might).

2. The person next to her figured it out and made an excellent demonstration of how to avoid rolling objects. Even panicked people are able to follow or imitate people who seem confident in their ability to survive.

3. There are some things, no matter how realistic and well researched, that just don't work on film. This sub-Three Stooges buffoonery scene didn't work on film.

After the scientist who tried to pet the scary space cobra, I am just not willing to give the the film any benefit of a single doubt. The parsimonious explanation for every scene throughout the entire film was "that character is an idiot."

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I think there were an enormous amount of problems with Prometheus, certainly as Bob said otherwise allegedly intelligent people acting completely stupidly; but I don't think I can penalize Charlize Theron's character for running away in a straight line. Yes, to a bystander it looks stupid and idiotic but people under complete and utter terror running for their lives don't always pick the best possible option.

Why do you guys think she is intended to maybe be a android? I thought that was dismissed with the throwaway joke by Captain Stringer Bell From The Wire.

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I just wish they had given her something to do.............or she had escaped the destruction to be rescued by (now) her Corporation warship......

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 the shrouded lord wrote:
what is wrong with AVP? .


It sucked. Sucky acting, sucky story, huge swarms of pyramid Aliens fighting douchey Preds, the whole deal. Sucked. Sorry if you liked that sucky movie. You like a movie that sucks. We've all been there.


Well you thought it did - we thought it was good - its all a matter of opinion..................it was certainly (IMO) better than Promethius and also far better than many "acclaimed" films.........

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Thought both of the AvP films were fething terrible, with the second one slightly mitigated by the fact that they couldn't possibly make a film that was as bad as the first one and you started watching the movie with the expectations of someone driving on a wet Sunday afternoon to a prison visit.

Seriously, the only film I can remember being more disappointed with was Terminator 3, to the point where I very nearly walked out of the cinema (only my tight fisted-ness and the price of the entrance ticket stopped me ) That they had made the movie a 12A should have been the warning.

Thought the Dark Horse comics on the other hand were fantastic, as were the books - this one was probably the best for anyone who wants a read about what the AvP movie could have been like

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Alien 3 is a good film with a phenomenal cast, the unreleased cut (ox not dog) is even better as it takes time to explore the religion aspects.

It falls foul of not being what the 3rd movie in the series should have been, the Earth War, the fall of our home and civilization to the xenomorphs. It's a great shame they didn't go with it.


Definitely! I didn't think Alien 3 accomplished what Terminator 3 manager, which was to make a film bad enough that it damaged its classic predecessor, but it came damn close for me in regards to what the film wasn't. In the end we ultimately had a re-hash of Alien, a film it was never going to be able to match simply because it had been done before, and you were never going to feel the same way about a bunch of identical-looking cons as you did the crew of the Nostromo.

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They said she wasn't a robot, but I'm not sure how having sex with the captain disproved that. If they are anything like the Replicants from Blade Runner they most certainly can.

Who runs Wayland now that Vickers is dead? Is this where they have the Yutani merger?

Interesting fact, one of Waylands body guards was going to be Roy Batty, or at least the same model as him. It's 2017 in Blade Runner so that's what, 60+ years before Prometheus?

Apparently Wayland was to acquire the Tyrell Corporation. The events of Blade Runner/Murder of Tyrell could also perhaps explain why Synthetics "blood" is changed to white from the red we see in Blade Runner.

Do Synethics in the Alien series have a life expectancy like they do in Blade Runner?

I think with the bungling of Prometheus I'd like to keep these two universes distinctly apart, as potentially cool as it could be.

Back more or less OT

One of the biggest questions that Prometheus raised was how was the Space Jockey in Alien absolutely gigantic compared to the Engineers in Prometheus? I'd think that the Space Jockey might have actually been a creature in and of itself, perhaps a bio-engineering race that created the Engineers who in turn destroyed them.

   
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what is wrong with AVP? .


It sucked. Sucky acting, sucky story, huge swarms of pyramid Aliens fighting douchey Preds, the whole deal. Sucked. Sorry if you liked that sucky movie. You like a movie that sucks. We've all been there.


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The Aliens graphic novels are top notch as well...


Supposedly Dark Horse is doing a massive reboot of Aliens and Predator. They are only going to use Prometheus, Alien, Aliens, Predator and Predators as their source material.
   
 
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