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Sounds a bit like they desperately want to release all completed products with or without a Codex, before GW hits the dust.
Like a cancelled TV show that is given the chance to complete all plot strings in the last 5 episodes.

Well, I do not really understand GW's release policy. They provide a new codex in January and in the same month they release some new CSM models. How many GW enthusiasts will buy these new kits? Gamers maybe not so much, but collectors of course.

 Sasori wrote:
So many rumors I would love to be true.

That's why it's fake. These guys are just telling people what they want to hear to drive up hits to their blogs. It's 100% about selling ads. They'll post anything.

If people stopped going to these places, they'd stop lying about gak.

 kronk wrote:

 Sasori wrote:
So many rumors I would love to be true.

That's why it's fake. These guys are just telling people what they want to hear to drive up hits to their blogs. It's 100% about selling ads. They'll post anything.

If people stopped going to these places, they'd stop lying about gak.

Pretty much this. If any of those numerous kits would hit the shelves in the next month, we would be seeing something about them on next month's White Dwarf cover. But there's simply nothing there. So all of this is wishlisting from Faeit - as usual.

 VyRa wrote:

Pretty much this. If any of those numerous kits would hit the shelves in the next month, we would be seeing something about them on next month's White Dwarf cover. But there's simply nothing there. So all of this is wishlisting from Faeit - as usual.

Ah, but White Dwarf isnt monthly anymore.

'Tis true

The latest leak is the 'new' weekly WD which has Dwarf releases in, but that's only February week 1

There's 3 more magazines to before February is done

(* that's not so say the Chaos rumours are true though)

Good point, i completly phased out of the whole White Dwarf thing, so it kinda went by me that this new four-issues-a-month-thing is already going on by next month.

However, i still remain highly sceptical. This would be the first "wave" (meaning unattached to any codex-release) since when exactly? The last wave i can remember would be the Dark Eldar back in early- to mid-2011, so it just seems unlikely that GW would revive that sales strategy again.

Plastic daemon kits in 2012, and I think there was one more, but it escapes me just now.

At first glance I'm hoping for a Space Wolves sort of pack, with all the conversion bits for multiple different squads but alas, this will probably never happen..

I tend to doubt any rumors that might show that gw understands how boring the csm codex is

 Kirasu wrote:
I tend to doubt any rumors that might show that gw understands how boring the com codex is

Even if they release them, it's too late. They already blew their load with a codex that is only second to the Tyranid codex in terms of sheer lack of inspiration and people have moved on. Plus these won't sell unless they are durrr muh plague mureenzzz lol i love nurgal XDDDD

 azreal13 wrote:
Plastic daemon kits in 2012, and I think there was one more, but it escapes me just now.

Was the flyrant and co. after or just before that?

According to the latest news, Dreads, Preds and Lr can also take some of the Vets skills, Tank Hunter was used in the exemple.

Also A Lord can take any of the skills, and they all cost 5pts for the Lord.

 Slayer le boucher wrote:


Also A Lord can take any of the skills, and they all cost 5pts for the Lord.

Sounds exactly like CSM 3.5

 VyRa wrote:
Sounds exactly like CSM 3.5

We can only hope.

Nevertheless, the idea that they'd release an entire book just so CSM players can take Vet skills seems a bit thin really. We know that people at the design studio are capable of writing concise Legion rules (1-2 pages of special rules for each Legion in the new HH books by FW), so why that can't be done in a 40K supplement is beyond me.

Most likely this Vets thing will be a dataslate, since like you put it, only for Vets rules, its to thin for a Supplement.

So maybe 20pages of fluff about the Legions and the aftermath of the Siege of Terra, 10 gallery pages with painted models from each Legion and then the pages about the Vets skills, maybe a few Altar of War Missions in the mix...

All for 10-12$

But of what has been said, this dataslate Vets skills will be applicable to all existing Chaos books and futur chaos Supplement.

My chaos army is complete. Unless they release more cultists that resemble the cawdor necromunda gang, there is nothing I'm interested in.

Flat point costs for abilities? Seems like GW still can't figure out proper cost management is key to producing balanced rules.

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Flat point costs for abilities? Seems like GW still can't figure out proper cost management is key to producing balanced rules.

You're ruling out other possibilities:

1. Apathy/they don't care.
2. Ignorance/they don't understand that.

No, they want us to FAQ house rule their own rules. We already assemble the models, we should be able to assemble rules too.

 Vladsimpaler wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
I tend to doubt any rumors that might show that gw understands how boring the com codex is

Even if they release them, it's too late. They already blew their load with a codex that is only second to the Tyranid codex in terms of sheer lack of inspiration and people have moved on. Plus these won't sell unless they are durrr muh plague mureenzzz lol i love nurgal XDDDD

Bolded for truth. I just can't understand why so many people (besides just really mediocre but enthusiastic converters) love Nurgle so dang much...

 catharsix wrote:


Bolded for truth. I just can't understand why so many people (besides just really mediocre but enthusiastic converters) love Nurgle so dang much...

Nurgle is perfect when you are a mediocre painter, a littel bit of green a little bit of yellow smeared over and a lot of brown and ink and tada!!

I do not say that everyone who makes Nurgle do it because you don't have to know how to paint to make them, just that a lot of people i know think they are good, because the model looks disgusting...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Flat point costs for abilities? Seems like GW still can't figure out proper cost management is key to producing balanced rules.

You're ruling out other possibilities:

1. Apathy/they don't care.
2. Ignorance/they don't understand that.

I'm willing to believe the some people writing the rules at GW know how they should be written. But you can't make up a pricing system out of thin air and nail it to existing body of rules as complex as those of 40k, it has to be built along with the core rules and incorporated into every codex. I mean, GW used to have a benchmark statline for a time - the Marine. It wasn't much, at didn't solve the issue of cost scaling on non stat parts of the rules set, but it was there if anyone cared to look for it. And then they started changing the cost of the Marines. So either they lost the last anchor to a consistent point cost evaluation, or the whole system started shifting.

Either doesn't work.

Dare I hope this will make other monogod lists besides Nurgle viable?

I think relentless noise marines... provided the cost is right for said relentless, could be a pretty formidable force.

Goresaw wrote:
I think relentless noise marines... provided the cost is right for said relentless, could be a pretty formidable force.

Supposedly its cheaper than Infiltrate which is the most expensive ability (why I'll never know) at the very least..

Goresaw wrote:
I think relentless noise marines... provided the cost is right for said relentless, could be a pretty formidable force.

This! I wish that Khorne units could add 'assault vehicle' rules to rhinos. That might make them viable.

Maybe in a futur Dataslate/WE Supplement who knows...

But even if they only become Open-topped, i'd still be glad, we could finaly Rhino Rush like the old days...

Ok. Enough with the Nurgle hate. People choose gods for different reasons. I chose nurgle because i wanted to do the conversions, loved the fluff etc. I have spent way more time on my nurgle marines than i have on my other armies. Its way harder to do a good job on Nurgle than it is to just spray something red and then dry brush it a bit.

seriously. Wish listing aside. I just want a codex that has some effort put into making it balanced, flexible and fun to play.
WE have ZERO outflanking units.
NO means to deep strike scoring units into our enemies deployment zones (outside of allies)
No infiltrators.
Our special rule is actually more hurtful than it is helpful.

I've got a Death Guard army as well (from back when that actually meant something). They're a fun army.