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I'm thinking that a Canoness who was given an order by a Radical Inquisitor that was obvious non-pious in its parameters would tell said Inquisitor to get stuffed. There are ways for things like the Ecclesiarchy and other major organizations of the Imperium to raise a red flag with the Inquisitorial Conclave responsible for their section of space when things don't seem to be kosher. Of course, some Regular Joe (or, in this case, Regular Jane) IG or SoB is not going to have the clout or the means, but a Canoness of an Order will.

So, yes, Sisters would work for a Radical Inquisitor, so long as the Radical Inquisitor is not tipping his/her hand to the fact that s/he's a Radical... or, rather, the kind of Radical that makes use of Chaos artifacts and such heresies (there's all kinds of Radicalism, use of Chaos is just the most-common, I suppose).

Further, I don't think there's particularly too many scenarios where one might find that an Ork and a Sister of Battle are the only resources capable of doing whatever it is that needs to be done. The Sister is obviously not going to infiltrate an Orky tribe, the Ork certainly isn't going to infiltrate a human world that is suspected of heresy. They obviously both bring prodigious combat potential to the scene (assuming the Sister is from an Order Militant), but I am not certain that an RT that can get Sisters and Orks could not also just petition an Astartes Chapter for a "loaner Marine".

While the Sisters and the Marines have some friction between them, they both recognize and respect one another's combat prowess and discipline, and being both human (or close enough) and servants of the Emperor, could more-easily set aside their differences in the name of whatever task the Inquisition has for them, than would a Sister and a Xeno, or even a Space Marine and a Xeno (especially an Ork). Of course, in the scenario provided, the Inquisition is sending the RT and crew out on a mission, and the Inquisition can most certainly requisition a single Space Marine.

 Psienesis wrote:
I'm thinking that a Canoness who was given an order by a Radical Inquisitor that was obvious non-pious in its parameters would tell said Inquisitor to get stuffed. There are ways for things like the Ecclesiarchy and other major organizations of the Imperium to raise a red flag with the Inquisitorial Conclave responsible for their section of space when things don't seem to be kosher. Of course, some Regular Joe (or, in this case, Regular Jane) IG or SoB is not going to have the clout or the means, but a Canoness of an Order will.

So, yes, Sisters would work for a Radical Inquisitor, so long as the Radical Inquisitor is not tipping his/her hand to the fact that s/he's a Radical... or, rather, the kind of Radical that makes use of Chaos artifacts and such heresies (there's all kinds of Radicalism, use of Chaos is just the most-common, I suppose).

Further, I don't think there's particularly too many scenarios where one might find that an Ork and a Sister of Battle are the only resources capable of doing whatever it is that needs to be done. The Sister is obviously not going to infiltrate an Orky tribe, the Ork certainly isn't going to infiltrate a human world that is suspected of heresy. They obviously both bring prodigious combat potential to the scene (assuming the Sister is from an Order Militant), but I am not certain that an RT that can get Sisters and Orks could not also just petition an Astartes Chapter for a "loaner Marine".

While the Sisters and the Marines have some friction between them, they both recognize and respect one another's combat prowess and discipline, and being both human (or close enough) and servants of the Emperor, could more-easily set aside their differences in the name of whatever task the Inquisition has for them, than would a Sister and a Xeno, or even a Space Marine and a Xeno (especially an Ork). Of course, in the scenario provided, the Inquisition is sending the RT and crew out on a mission, and the Inquisition can most certainly requisition a single Space Marine.

I thought of a Marine at first, actually.

But given the headcanon that has reached consensus here, both in the 40K meta and the group that prefers RT... Let's just say that those Marines are not very balanced for RT.

Oh, yes. If you're going to use Deathwatch in any other FFG game, you have to rewrite things extensively.

Though I wonder what the Ork brings that a Stormtrooper from DH: Ascension does not? They're pretty bad-ass.

Well, that line of thought is simply hypotheticals. I think we've covered how to remain as true as possible to the background of the Sisters in-character while also getting along with the rest of the players and, especially the Ork's player, out-of-character.

 Psienesis wrote:
Oh, yes. If you're going to use Deathwatch in any other FFG game, you have to rewrite things extensively.

Though I wonder what the Ork brings that a Stormtrooper from DH: Ascension does not? They're pretty bad-ass.

Well, that line of thought is simply hypotheticals. I think we've covered how to remain as true as possible to the background of the Sisters in-character while also getting along with the rest of the players and, especially the Ork's player, out-of-character.

Yes, thank you, I have passed the knowledge gained here on to my group.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
My dear Son... this is why we must have Faith.

If we have faith in very different things, maybe we will go on crusade/jihad/holy war against each other ?

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Furyou Miko wrote:
My dear Son... this is why we must have Faith.

If we have faith in very different things, maybe we will go on crusade/jihad/holy war against each other ?

As long as you cleave truly to the God-Emperor, it should not be necessary.

Well, you are the one who said Sisters would denounce the Emperor as a false god if ordered to, not me .

Today during our RT game our group encountered some Kroot who offered the Trader their services.

My Sister was silent the first moments but when she realised the Trader considered accepting such a blasphemous proposal, she promptly opened fire to the dismay and surprise of everyone else present (Including the Kroot.)

A bolt blew one to pieces and the rest were quickly gunned down by our paranoid trigger-happy Archmilitant and his Hellgun. The fight lasted seconds.

Did I do the Sisterhood proud?

In a word, yes.

Duh! Why would you even ask?

Sigh...they grow up so fast...

Yes you did!

Yes indeed. Hopefully, the Rogue Trader also learned a valuable object lesson.

The wise man learns from the deaths of others, after all.

If it ain't sanctioned, I ain't sparing it.

Ha ha. Yes, that was an appropriately SoB course of action. Well done.

 Ashiraya wrote:
Today during our RT game our group encountered some Kroot who offered the Trader their services.

My Sister was silent the first moments but when she realised the Trader considered accepting such a blasphemous proposal, she promptly opened fire to the dismay and surprise of everyone else present (Including the Kroot.)

A bolt blew one to pieces and the rest were quickly gunned down by our paranoid trigger-happy Archmilitant and his Hellgun. The fight lasted seconds.

Did I do the Sisterhood proud?

Ok, how did the real people involved handle it? It sounds like the guy/gal playing the Archmilitant was totally cool with the "kill them all" option, but how about the others, especially the Inquisitor's player?

There are two key factors here, actually: how surprised were the other players and how happy were they? Remember a player can be happy about something his or her character hates and totally expecting something the character wasn't. (Ron Edwards wrote somewhere the best way to keep a secret from another character is to tell the player and have fun playing up the dramatic irony).

Let's measure surprised on a scale of "0 = totally saw that coming from the moment the Kroot showed up," to "5 = waitasec - is she going to -- BLAM -- she just did," to "10 = holy feth she did what?"
Let's measure happy on a scale from "0 = flip the table never gonna play with you again" to "5 = whatever" to "10 = oh my gawd that was awesome."

So then we have a nice Cartesian grid, with its extremes as
0, 0 = "oh man, Ashiyira's going to shoot the Kroot, dammit, I wish s/he weren't in our group."
0, 10 = "oh man, Ashiyra's totally going to shoot the Kroot, isn't s/he? That's gonna be hilarious."
10, 0 = "what, Ashiriya just shot the Kroot? Dammit, Ashiyira!"
10, 10 = "what, Ashiyira just shot the Kroot? Hahahaha oh gawd hahahaha can't stop laughing hahaha sides hurt now...."

 SisterSydney wrote:


Ok, how did the real people involved handle it? It sounds like the guy/gal playing the Archmilitant was totally cool with the "kill them all" option, but how about the others, especially the Inquisitor's player?

There are two key factors here, actually: how surprised were the other players and how happy were they? Remember a player can be happy about something his or her character hates and totally expecting something the character wasn't. (Ron Edwards wrote somewhere the best way to keep a secret from another character is to tell the player and have fun playing up the dramatic irony).

Let's measure surprised on a scale of "0 = totally saw that coming from the moment the Kroot showed up," to "5 = waitasec - is she going to -- BLAM -- she just did," to "10 = holy feth she did what?"
Let's measure happy on a scale from "0 = flip the table never gonna play with you again" to "5 = whatever" to "10 = oh my gawd that was awesome."

So then we have a nice Cartesian grid, with its extremes as
0, 0 = "oh man, Ashiyira's going to shoot the Kroot, dammit, I wish s/he weren't in our group."
0, 10 = "oh man, Ashiyra's totally going to shoot the Kroot, isn't s/he? That's gonna be hilarious."
10, 0 = "what, Ashiriya just shot the Kroot? Dammit, Ashiyira!"
10, 10 = "what, Ashiyira just shot the Kroot? Hahahaha oh gawd hahahaha can't stop laughing hahaha sides hurt now...."

You managed to misspell the name four times in a row. Dx

Also, from your four options, I think 10,10 is most appropriate. I can't believe they did not see it coming but they of course went along with it happily- the Kroot had no major storyline role and the group is rather humorous (Actually too humorous for my own tastes, but it's the only one available and I can persevere in the name of playing RT at all.)

As a side note, the first battle my SoB took part in she sort of charged a Meltagun-servitor and almost got melted, surviving only by spending two Fate Points.

I imagine that to be SoF shining through.

In return she oneshotted the Servitor. Bolt pistols are deadly things.

Overall our group is quite hilarious. We have one Battle Sister (Admittedly not a Militant yet- I wants me that PA!), one kind-hearted but naïve Rogue Trader who is getting more and more frustrated over the Battle Sister's antics, a paranoid triggerhappy Archmilitant who points a Hellgun at just about everything that moves and a silent calculating Explorator who is secretly a mutant but is very good at hiding it. And an Ork.

And our GM who must have patience like a fething mountain.

Sounds awesome to me. As a GM, my favorite moments are almost always when the players surprise me.

Sorry about the typos, Ashiraya. I was writing on my mobile, and the tiny screen makes it easy for me to misread things, like, um, your name....

Right now, my Battle Sister (Who is guarding the Rogue Trader to ensure no further transgressions occur) is sitting at a huge table along with the nobility of a space station. The rest of the party is also here. We are apparently looking for some witches (Makes my SoB happy) but the methods are not that good... To gain information we attended the banquet of the local leader but they serve things like live throat-crabs and warp-wyrms and spider eggs. My Sister is fasting of course but the other group members are eating to get bonuses to get info... One of us already has internal bleedings from the food while the other finds that the crabs he ate are crawling out again.

My SoB just sits still, closes her eyes, and chants to herself 'This is not happening, this is not happening, I am at the chapel polishing my Bolt Pistol, I am making push-ups in my quarters, this is not happening, this is just the Emperor testing my faith...'

 Ashiraya wrote:
My SoB just sits still, closes her eyes, and chants to herself 'This is not happening, this is not happening, I am at the chapel polishing my Bolt Pistol, I am making push-ups in my quarters, this is not happening, this is just the Emperor testing my faith...'

Why? Because warp-wyrms are blasphemous?

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
My SoB just sits still, closes her eyes, and chants to herself 'This is not happening, this is not happening, I am at the chapel polishing my Bolt Pistol, I am making push-ups in my quarters, this is not happening, this is just the Emperor testing my faith...'

Why? Because warp-wyrms are blasphemous?

No, because she is sitting in a huge hall with hundreds of people at one single table filled with various disgusting food, and all around her people mutate from eating warp-wyrms, get internal bleedings, vomit cascades of blood, faint, vomit living throat-crabs, and other annoying things.

It must be so surreal to her, that such a situation actually can happen. She does not fear the daemon but the absurd habits of the nobility drops her jaw.

 Ashiraya wrote:
and all around her people mutate from eating warp-wyrms, get internal bleedings, vomit cascades of blood, faint, vomit living throat-crabs, and other annoying things.

Oh. I see. Well, strange customs are strange.

Customs that are too-strange are a sure sign of blasphemy and heretical practices.

Best to purge the planet, it's the only way to be sure.

*Especially* if they call these things "warp-wyrms". That's just blasphemous right there in the open.

Well, if you eat one of those Warp-Wyrms and fail a -30 Toughness test, you apparently get a mutation.....


Yeah, I think my Sister will be demanding that the helmsman open fire on the space-station when we return to the ship next time...

Well, if you eat one of those Warp-Wyrms and fail a -30 Toughness test, you apparently get a mutation.....

Insert an Ernest P. Worrel "ewww! EWWW! EWW!" sound right here.

And then purge the place with nuclear fire.

I wonder if your GM is invoking the "monkey brain banquet" scene from India Jones & the Temple of Doom, in which case the daemon-worshippers' temple is directly below the palace you're now in.... But that was a terrible movie.

 SisterSydney wrote:
I wonder if your GM is invoking the "monkey brain banquet" scene from India Jones & the Temple of Doom, in which case the daemon-worshippers' temple is directly below the palace you're now in.... But that was a terrible movie.

No, I think it is an adventure from Lure of the Expanse.

The adventure writers could've been referencing Indiana Jones, then -- in fact, unless your GM is as old as I am (40), the adventure writers are much more likely to have seen Temple of Doom (which, to repeat, I recommend never doing).

See, I enjoyed both Temple of Doom and Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. I'll readily agree that neither is as good a movie as either Last Crusade or Raiders of the Lost Ark, but they were silly, fun, enjoyable romps through pulpy adventure.

So... your recommendation is to melt the floor?

Seems legit. I slammed a demo charge into a Chaos Lord's 'nads before, so yeah. Not that nuts for an RT game.