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Because there's an arbitrary list of what things can and can't be challenged, and it is only somewhat related to the list of factual things which can be decided by video review.

 dogma wrote:

 gorgon wrote:

Said it before and I'm saying it again...the officials have far too much on their plates.

I think they're just too scared to make potentially controversial calls.

They're probably gunshy. I think anyone would be if working for Rog.

I also think that they've never really adapted well to the presence of Brother Eye, even when they're the ones going under the hood.

 Peregrine wrote:
Because there's an arbitrary list of what things can and can't be challenged, and it is only somewhat related to the list of factual things which can be decided by video review.

That's kind of what I'm saying though... They've said for years now that "penalties cannot be challenged for/against" .... To me, that says, "we know you don't like that holding call, it was probably bad, but you can't challenge it" and should be very easy to apply to the situation where R.W. "crossed the line" went back, and threw a pass. IMO, the referees should have said, "Washington threw a challenge flag, challenging the legality of a pass. This by rule is challenging a penalty. Washington is being charged a T.O.... 1st Down"

 TheMeanDM wrote:
Some surprises today!

Are we back to "Who Dat?" bag over the head this year?!? I mean...really? Losing to Tampa Bay?!

And color me surprised to see Buffalo top Detroit...did NOT think that was coming, especially with Orton!

The collapse of the Saints this year is saddening.

My Texans look decent this year. I can't believe they lost to the Cowboys, though. Did NOT see that coming. Ah, well.


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 Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:
Gahh Kronk sneaked past me during SNF (135-131)

Great game, dude. You have a hell of a team!

 Peregrine wrote:
Because there's an arbitrary list of what things can and can't be challenged, and it is only somewhat related to the list of factual things which can be decided by video review.

If the list of challengeable plays is arbitrary, then it would be difficult to argue that the list of reviewable plays is not.

 dogma wrote:
If the list of challengeable plays is arbitrary, then it would be difficult to argue that the list of reviewable plays is not.

Err, that's not what I meant. Here's an example: you can't challenge a false start penalty, even though looking at the video will clearly tell you whether or not the penalty was legitimate. So why can't you challenge it? Because the NFL said so.

 Peregrine wrote:

 dogma wrote:
If the list of challengeable plays is arbitrary, then it would be difficult to argue that the list of reviewable plays is not.

Err, that's not what I meant. Here's an example: you can't challenge a false start penalty, even though looking at the video will clearly tell you whether or not the penalty was legitimate. So why can't you challenge it? Because the NFL said so.

Fact is, (and I just looked through it) there are NO published rules regarding the challenging of a ruling on the field. That's about as arbitrary as it gets... I've been looking all morning now for some kind of published, official rule put out by the NFL regarding the coaches' challenge, but thus far the only thing out there is stuff from ESPN, Bleacher Report and the like reporting what theyre told.

Given what we've been told by people like ESPN and Bleacher Report, Sports Illustrated, etc. The challenge of the Russell Wilson play should have been a penalty against Washington, and it should have cost them a Timeout.

 Peregrine wrote:

Err, that's not what I meant. Here's an example: you can't challenge a false start penalty, even though looking at the video will clearly tell you whether or not the penalty was legitimate. So why can't you challenge it? Because the NFL said so.

In general penalties can't be reviewed, though the flag can be thrown; its a judgment call on the part of the officials.

As to false start clarity: centers, tackles, TEs, and receivers get so much leeway that there is no way tape would make the matter definitive.

 dogma wrote:

As to false start clarity: centers, tackles, TEs, and receivers get so much leeway that there is no way tape would make the matter definitive.

Which is mind boggling.... Since I was a wee lad the rule has always been, for the offense, once you get to your position for that play and are "set" you cannot move a single inch, until that ball is snapped... This year, I've seen so many times linemen rocking back and forth, and generally squriming that I'd personally be throwing flags all over the damn place

Watching Watt play tonight....

The man, hands down, deserves the league MVP trophy.

He is insane.

 TheMeanDM wrote:
Watching Watt play tonight....

The man, hands down, deserves the league MVP trophy.

He is insane.

Dude's a juggernaut. I was pretty worried about that game for a while.

The Colts looked like a well oiled machine to start the game, and then those old rascals we all know came out to play after.

Great game all around though.

 IAmTheWalrus wrote:

Great game all around though.

Wait, you mean to tell me there was a Thursday night game that wasnt utter gak??


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Also, Adrian Peterson has dug his grave a little deeper it seems :(


His dumbass admitted to smoking "a little" weed before taking a court administered drug test.

I saw that Peterson news scroll by on the ESPN ticker and had to rewind it a couple of times.

W
T
F

The dude has just committed seppuku with his career...and quite possibly his freedom if the judge decides to revoke his bail for this.

What kind of idiot smokes dope before taking a drug test?!? Oh...wait...the same kind who beats his kids with tree limbs.

 TheMeanDM wrote:


What kind of idiot smokes dope before taking a drug test?!? Oh...wait...the same kind who beats his kids with tree limbs.

He's really only an idiot for not being traded to Seattle

The whole beating his kids thing, I'd honestly chalk that up more to ignorance... He's maintained throughout the whole thing that he was trying to raise his kids the same way he was raised. There is nothing wrong with that. By extension, there's nothing wrong with whoopin' your kid with a switch. There IS however, a problem with whippin' your kids with a switch to the point where there's semi-open wounds/bruises and the like a week later.

WHOOOOOO Browns win in what can only be described as a blowout!

A fething tie.

Ugh.

 TheMeanDM wrote:
Watching Watt play tonight....

The man, hands down, deserves the league MVP trophy.

He is insane.

Hell yes.

Sad they couldn't pull it out, but Watt can only do so much alone.

Seahawks at Dallas. What could possibly go wro...

Bears looked really impressive beating the Falcons and Jay was in full Good-Jay game manager mode

 Breotan wrote:
Seahawks at Dallas. What could possibly go wro...

Really??? It's what... the second home loss since Russell Wilson took over? I don't think it's time to bust out the paper bags and long wistfully for the days when we made the playoffs pretty regularly.... Sort of like Cowboys fans do

And Kronk pulls it out again this week.

Miraculous.

Did you guys see that phantom Offensive PI call on Jared Cook last night?

What a ing joke.

It went downhill for the RAMs from there.

 whembly wrote:


It went downhill for the RAMs from there.

Which is weird the refs defending Kapernick because he's no longer one of the Good Guys™, and so doesnt fit the NFL's Narrative™

Wow.... Seattle loses 2 and suddenly they are the Browns? Oh wait... the Browns are doing decent.
At least neither are the Jags, or the Raiders.

Sigh, my FFL team is getting killed by third stringers.
Of course my picks have been horrid too so.....

Next week my best players are on Bye, and I face Kronk. Any bets on the margin of loss?

Uh... the Browns fans are creative:
http://deadspin.com/browns-fans-make-beer-bong-out-of-female-mannequin-wit-1646120392

Great, now the patriots are playing so I have to watch a Thursday game ;(. Not looking forward to tonight.

Browns fans have had plenty of time to work on our ability to get hammered in creative ways.

This just in, Seattle Seahawks trade Percy Harvin for a conditional draft pick.

Did NOT see that coming....

To the Jets!!! :O
Seattle must really not like how they think his long term health will play out, on the other hand perhaps Geno got a receiver other than Decker who can draw attention from defences and let him make plays


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Also his cap numbers are pretty big