Monkeysloth wrote:
Feel sorry for Paizo but at the same time there was info out there about ND at that time. Hopefully the announcement is something positive for all the backers though.

Just to clarify, this is an Paizo internal meeting and it's today.

My hope with trying to stay in the loop of what's going on and communicate with you that I am doing so, is to let you know that we are not ignoring our community. I understand the frustration from folks who feel ignored and my intention is to be able to let you know we are here listening and I am doing my best to ensure that if there is any information to pass along we can do so as soon as possible. One thing I have learned, both from the perspective of a consumer and as part of a business, is how glacial the pace of business can be for those left waiting to hear more. I know how easy it is to translate a lack of communication with feelings of being ignored or forgotten. Since I know that is not the case at Paizo, I hope I am at the very least passing that sentiment along.

I apologize for getting hopes up that I might come back with more details. Very likely, there still isn't going to be any new information to share. However, I know that earlier in the thread someone was asking for details on what we're doing and I hoped by letting you know I would be attending this meeting, I was providing a more concrete example of that this issue is not being ignored.

 Monkeysloth wrote:
Paizo didn't kick reaper to the curb. Reaper turned them down. This was stated by Bryan back when he still worked for them that they passed on Starfinder.

 Monkeysloth wrote:
I don't know about Wizkids but more likely they passed too because there wasn't a market large enough for plastics.

 akai wrote:
If I remember correctly, Paizo approached WizKids and Reaper about it, and both declined. I think with Reaper there was mentioned that they have their own Sci Fi line/projects and that was the reason they declined on Starfinder.

Monkeysloth wrote:That's a really odd comparison if you're trying to knock what I said. Star Trek is a huge license with a large fanbase. Starfinder isn't.

Over the last several months while discussing the Starfinder Masterclass Miniatures with the executive team and Glenn & Jim I’ve personally learned a lot about the processes and legal details involved with IP licenses. In particular, I’ve noted how every time I think “maybe we could simply…” or “can’t we just…” it never turns out to be simple, straightforward, or even possible. Making things even more complex, due to the business and contractual obligations involved, we’re limited in what we can communicate publicly with you about details of this ongoing issue.

I had a chance to sit in on one of the regular Paizo licensing meeting yesterday to discuss where things are at and how we can proceed. This license has clearly not progressed as we expected and we know that it has impacted and frustrated folks who backed Ninja Division’s Kickstarter. Since its launch we have been monitoring this license and at this time, after careful review, we feel that the best way we can support our community in receiving a resolution to their kickstarter pledges is to keep communication between Paizo and Ninja Division open, to support them in exploring their options for completion of the Starfinder Masterclass Miniatures Kickstarter, and to encourage them to communicate with their backers.

With PaizoCon coming up fast, much of my time at work will be tied up in all of the the event planning and execution that goes into that convention. I want to go ahead and set expectations now, that I might not be consistent with checking in every Monday with this thread. But I will aim for every other week. If it ends up longer than that, you are more than welcome to request a check in. I routinely check for new posts in this thread whenever I am looking through the forums and I should see it with a business day or so of posting.

-Sara

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
was something mentioned about Kingdom Death stepping in to help out with the Possessed Twilight Knight/ Oni Knight model that was shown off in the Relic Knights campaign?

Wishful thinking perhaps...?

John Starck Cadice Joshua Davis no, you are right. They need to get paid to get the products out so we can move them to you - t hat is 1 issue. the other, as I stated, is something that they are resposible for in Poland, that causes more undue financial stress, and they need to act on it - we are not blaming anyone for anything - 2 separate issues -

John Starck Cadice We had essential funding pulled that prevented movement -
and forced things to be delayed, and that forced Archons need for relief - we respect and understand that - we are not monsters , they have a business to run too

John Starck Cadice Joshua Davis lets use constructive terms here -
We are an operation that is working to fulfill our obligations, and timelines and delays have costs - that's pretty much it. we are FULLY responsible for ourselves, but I jumped in this morning, because one of our suppliers decided to make statements for us, and has prompted my immediate response, because you guys deserve to knnow we are here working, and not letting things go

 Monkeysloth wrote:
hey, a third thread for this. Though here's probably the most appropriate place for it.

 Nostromodamus wrote:
Screwing Prodos is justifiable herpes though.

 Nostromodamus wrote:
Screwing Prodos is justifiable herpes though.

Jarek Ewertowski Afternoon, I am Archon's representative, AMA regarding this issue.

Jarek Ewertowski Johnnie Chau Hi there, only regular ones. An official Archon statement will be out once we agree on next steps with Paizo, we are actively looking for a solution to Starfinder KS. Paizo received a proposal from Archon and it meant to be discussed in their HQ.

Jarek Ewertowski Tom Anders Yes, also, not sure how invoicing works in the USA however in Poland once you issue an invoice, even if it was not paid by the customer you have to pay VAT, corporation and income tax from it in the next tax point (quarterly in our case). We could try to recover taxes and book all ND invoices as so-called "bad invoices" only if ND calls bankruptcy. This inventory for us is a huge investment on our part that frozen a lot of investment money. So we kinda would like to recover as much as possible. A potential solution, in lieu of Polish and USA purchasing regulations, is to secure unpaid stock, in this case, all remaining manufacturing pieces, as a compensation for unpaid invoices and then sell it as assorted miniatures to recover some of the costs Archon had. In this case, the problem is still with unserved backers - and this is where we need to find a solution. One of them would be: If you are an Archon backer (for Chronicle X - still unshipped or 2nd wave VoW) we would add the miniatures from Starfinder/Relic Knights to your box. Other solutions, well, it really will be up to Paizo.