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Contents other than the rule/mission books looks identical?

I'll pass on this one I think.

 notprop wrote:
Contents other than the rule/mission books looks identical?

There are some new tiles (boarding torpedoes etc) but all the minis are exact same as last time around.

Wonder how compatible the Dataslates will be with the older version of the game. Would love to see a FAQ update for the older release.

I'll be getting the Dark Angels dataslate, I dont buy my itunes credit at retail price, so I'll post what is in it if no one else has, looks like they are not live until next week as no mention on ibooks.

barnowl wrote:
Wonder how compatible the Dataslates will be with the older version of the game. Would love to see a FAQ update for the older release.

I have the WD issues, which is why I haven't plunked down the $16 for the dataslates...my hunch combined with the product descriptions are that the missions are identical to the old ones, with some updated rules for wargear used by the terminators in the respective armies (Deathwing in particular). Basically to get people to plunk down more money for the Terminator kits.

 Fango wrote:

barnowl wrote:
Wonder how compatible the Dataslates will be with the older version of the game. Would love to see a FAQ update for the older release.

I have the WD issues, which is why I haven't plunked down the $16 for the dataslates...my hunch combined with the product descriptions are that the missions are identical to the old ones, with some updated rules for wargear used by the terminators in the respective armies (Deathwing in particular). Basically to get people to plunk down more money for the Terminator kits.

Just show's how bizarre GW's thinking is with this. A more permanent game with continued content such as these dataslates would provide a perfect gateway game and a cheaper route in to the 40k universe. Adding in Space Marines in power armour (White Dwarf 120), Harlequins (Citadel Journal 2), Traitor Terminators (White Dwarf 121 and 122), Imperial Guard (Citadel Journal 25) and so on. Such a missed opportunity

What dataslates were sold? Where are the alternate rules?

It's kind of disappointing they didn't think this one through more and add scope to expand the game as you say.

 PhillyT wrote:
What dataslates were sold? Where are the alternate rules?

You can see the Dataslates on GW's site. They are basically reprints of old campaigns first featured in White Dwarf years ago. They presumably updated them with fancy graphics and a few new weapon rules to match the current terminator models

So how much will this cost? Edit: nevermind I need to pay more attention to the 1st post lol

And is it worth the purchase?

I missed out on the last time Space Hulk was released and am thinking about getting this, especially due to the awesome looking miniatures.

I bought it last time and just paid for my pre-order.

IF you have the money laying around, you can most likely get your cash back out down the road if you needed to. Heck, you can probably make the money back on the models alone!

Colour me surprised again!

Extra gubbinz!

Wayland is offering it for 5 pounds off and free shipping...

but I find the 6.66% discount remarkably low.

Do you think this is a preorder thing and that it'll get cheaper on waylandgames once it's released?


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 Rayvon wrote:
I got mine ordered from the outpost £60 free postage !

link to the site?

I suspect once Wayland have the initial batch that is all they will get, Games Workshop doesn't like them so they often seem to get stiffed on new releases (or they overorder). I think you'll find that it's excluded from their free shipping as the bottom of the page has the usual hilarity;

"Bulky: Please note this item is bulky and is not covered by any free shipping promotion."

Smaller retailers are doing better discount and free or cheaper shipping *shrug*

I missed this last time around, and still havent brought myself to pay over the odds for one. So ordered this one right away!

Do feel bad for those who got it last time around, and its now somewhat less limited-ness.. but really happier that I can paint up those figures than anything else.

Just pre-ordered 2

 Bull0 wrote:
Yeah, can confirm Element Games are fantastic. Every GW preorder I've done with them has turned up my house on release day (mainland UK). I'm only going core GW this time because the cost is going to wind up about the same, so why not?

I usually rationalise it by 'spreading the wealth', a bit is going to the manufacturer, a bit going to an independent gaming store (which are ultimately really important for the sustainment of the wargaming hobby)

Only time I buy direct from manufacturer is when they offer a significant discount (which isn't very often.. Battlefront have a sale on their 'Early War' stuff at the moment for FoW, but they are rare)

So $16 digital add-ons? Lazy.

They could have put out $50 expansions for other chapters and orks with new, static pose plastic models to not only get the new people buying more, but the previous people getting new stuff, too.

Missed opportunity from the "we're a model company first" side of the house.

 TheKbob wrote:
So $16 digital add-ons? Lazy.

They could have put out $50 expansions for other chapters and orks with new, static pose plastic models to not only get the new people buying more, but the previous people getting new stuff, too.

Missed opportunity from the "we're a model company first" side of the house.

Not seeing how this is lazy? They've put in additional missions for specific chapters of which a huge number of people who play WH40K collect. Would you rather they didn't put in any add ons at all? Plus I imagine you can field just about any chapter you feel like in there anyways.

I agree it's Lazy in that it is regurgitated material. Actual new play-tested and balanced missions would have been much better...still, by making the board game limited again, they have basically limited the life span of those digital products as well. Only the select few who have the game, and are interested in the faction presented, and that don't already own the missions will be buying (save a a few collector exceptions).

Yeah,
£60 from darksphere.
Boom! Purchased.
I now have three sets of 3rd ed tiles and two sets of minis
(Will probably sell one set of terminators later)

I will consider the £30 of DLC items later.
They seem over priced.
Seems expensive for a digital nothing and I'd prefer a hard copy that sits on the table.

Panic...

I really don't understand GW at all anymore.
They make Space Hulk a limited release so lots of people that want it don't get it. They'll create an overpriced market on ebay. Why don't they just keep it available all the while like their main games.
I can't afford it this month. I will be able to next month but it will be sold out then. It means GW lose out on my £75 and I have less incentive to spend more on GW products like dataslates for the game.

/shakes head

 Gimgamgoo wrote:
I really don't understand GW at all anymore.
They make Space Hulk a limited release so lots of people that want it don't get it. They'll create an overpriced market on ebay. Why don't they just keep it available all the while like their main games.
I can't afford it this month. I will be able to next month but it will be sold out then. It means GW lose out on my £75 and I have less incentive to spend more on GW products like dataslates for the game.

/shakes head

It fits in nicely with GW's patented 'One step forward, and two steps back while hitting yourself in the face with a hammer' business strategy. A game like this should absolutely be available all the time. But then saying that I still bought one, and it'll likely not be in stock come Monday, so what do I know about business?

This marketing works. They are getting 100% sales. AND, they are training us...with their last-minute release announcements COMBINED with their limited quantity antics...to have a bucket full of cash waiting in a "Reserved for impulse buys I can't do without, and would rather not pay 300% for on eBay later" status....

People like Gimgamgoo above (and like myself in the past), have no other option than to anticipate high dollar, must-have releases by setting aside money for them in advance. It's so EVIL because its actually WORKING.

 Panic wrote:
Yeah,
£60 from darksphere.
Boom! Purchased.

umm...what? It says "pickup only" on darksphere. I assume youre booking a ticket to England then?

 Fango wrote:
This marketing works. They are getting 100% sales. AND, they are training us...with their last-minute release announcements COMBINED with their limited quantity antics...to have a bucket full of cash waiting in a "Reserved for impulse buys I can't do without, and would rather not pay 300% for on eBay later" status....

People like Gimgamgoo above (and like myself in the past), have no other option than to anticipate high dollar, must-have releases by setting aside money for them in advance. It's so EVIL because its actually WORKING.

They have every incentive to do it, and little to no incentive not to.

Remember Gorkamorka ? They were giving away Gorkamorka box sets with annual White Dwarf subscriptions that cost less than the price of Gorkamorka. It was insane. I got 4 years of subscriptions and stocked up on Gorkamorkas for the vehicles. I still have Gorkamorka boyz on the sprue.

Dreadfleet ? It's rumored they simply tooik the loss and destroyed the remaining stock.

Selling Space Hulk this way is a HUGE win for them.

Mine has been pre-ordered!

aaand The Outpost has already sold out of everything GW allowed - read - allowed them to have already.

Wow. Just wow.

Space Hulk isnt even that good of a game.

How much you're willing to bet the majority of people who own the board game version have it catching dust for most of the year in their home? Most people probably only get less than a dozen games out of it.

And you can always buy and play it on steam. In fact I got the steam version during a steam sale for like 2.50 bucks.

People will go to any lengths to fork over huge sums of money purely based on the concept that the item they are buying is really really valuable in that nobody else can get it a couple days later and how one can sell it for even higher prices on ebay afterward.

Now I know why women crave fancy jewelry so much.

I guess us men have that same gene

 Sir Arun wrote:
aaand The Outpost has already sold out of everything GW allowed - read - allowed them to have already.

Wow. Just wow.

Space Hulk isnt even that good of a game.

How much you're willing to bet the majority of people who own the board game version have it catching dust for most of the year in their home? Most people probably only get less than a dozen games out of it.

And you can always buy and play it on steam. In fact I got the steam version durin g a steam sale for like 2.50 bucks.

People will go to any lengths to fork over huge sums of money purely based on the concept that the item they are buying is really really valuable in that nobody else can get it a couple days later and how one can sell it for even higher prices on ebay afterward.

Now I know why women crave fancy jewelry so much.

I guess us men have that same gene

Stopped reading at "Not that good of a game"....

I've wanted my own copy for years. The first edition was the first GW game I ever played (26 years ago). Preordered tonight a can't wait to get it.

I'll report back if they've replaced the terminators with live wasps or rogue trader squats or the like.