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 Inquisitor Lord Bane wrote:
david choe wrote:
 Artorias the Abysswalker wrote:
Cold Steel guy does this in his video

No other company has slaughtered as many hollow pigs, cardboard tubes, bamboo sticks or cardboard Spartans. They scare me....

Also I feel kinda stupid since I train with this type of sword. I know its purely an English weapon but why do they call it a "bastard" sword?


The video is not a bastard sword. The bastard sword is the very long and heavy sword. I think (I might be mistaken here) the nick name is bastard sword because the user were usually hard ass warriors and they are just bunch of "bastards".


I think its because of the fact that a hand and a half sword bridged the gap between longsword and a claymore, and is the "bastard child" of the two.

Makes sense to me at least


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Ninja'd again...


I stand corrected.

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Eschara

Swords would be a bad idea in zombie apocalypses as you would get overwhelmed very quickly....

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I still vote for Kukri.

There's a reason the Ghurka's were feared, this blade is one of those reasons.

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The new lightsaber in the star wars force awakens trailer has my vote.

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The brides of Khaine like cold inhospitable places, so why not a Russian contingent..

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Whatever weapon, whatever warrior, nothing beats a group of Roman legionaires in a testudo/phalanx formation. It's like walking through an oversized food processor.

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 Artorias the Abysswalker wrote:
Whatever weapon, whatever warrior, nothing beats a group of Roman legionaires in a testudo/phalanx formation. It's like walking through an oversized food processor.


A T34 would.
   
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 Artorias the Abysswalker wrote:
Whatever weapon, whatever warrior, nothing beats a group of Roman legionaires in a testudo/phalanx formation. It's like walking through an oversized food processor.


Except the Scots... there's a reason the Romans built a wall, and put a sign up that read "You shall not pass" on the Roman side of it
   
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Eschara

Whatever weapon, whatever warrior, nothing beats a group of Roman legionaires in a testudo/phalanx formation. It's like walking through an oversized food processor.

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 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
 Artorias the Abysswalker wrote:
Whatever weapon, whatever warrior, nothing beats a group of Roman legionaires in a testudo/phalanx formation. It's like walking through an oversized food processor.


Except the Scots... there's a reason the Romans built a wall, and put a sign up that read "You shall not pass" on the Roman side of it



to be fair it was mainly to keep their sheep safe....

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okay, but one has to admit, they were a formidable fighting force, the Roman Legions. I always have that image in my head, after a battle and you see this centurion covered in gore with blood dripping from the horsehair plume on his helm.

Also, what do you thing is the coolest looking real-life helm of any time? My votes go to the crusader greathelm or centurion helm with sideways crest.

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Regarding the coolest looking helm, Id go for the Schaller. Dunno why, just really like that design.
   
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 Artorias the Abysswalker wrote:
okay, but one has to admit, they were a formidable fighting force, the Roman Legions. I always have that image in my head, after a battle and you see this centurion covered in gore with blood dripping from the horsehair plume on his helm.

Also, what do you thing is the coolest looking real-life helm of any time? My votes go to the crusader greathelm or centurion helm with sideways crest.


Frogmouth, it just looks otherwordly.
   
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 Artorias the Abysswalker wrote:
okay, but one has to admit, they were a formidable fighting force, the Roman Legions. I always have that image in my head, after a battle and you see this centurion covered in gore with blood dripping from the horsehair plume on his helm.

Also, what do you thing is the coolest looking real-life helm of any time? My votes go to the crusader greathelm or centurion helm with sideways crest.


Yes, the Romans were fierce, when they were prepared. Look up the Battle of Teutoburg Forest for what I'm talking about

As for helmets, there's too many for me to choose from... I love the looks of the Corinthian helm with transverse crest (many actual Spartans wore this, particularly those in leadership roles)

Spoiler:


Early Viking helms:

Spoiler:
http://www.darkknightarmoury.com/images/Product/large/AH-6770.png

Also, look up the Sutton Hoo helmet as another good example,


And more recently, I am seriously digging the true Gothic Plate armors, so the Sallet with bevor and gorget:

Spoiler:
http://www.darkknightarmoury.com/images/Product/large/AH-6770.png

I'm saving up for a helmet very similar to that one, as well as a full display suit for my house
   
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winged hussar..hell everything about them was awesome..


but I have worn kubato, great helms...bucket helms..sallet, viking goggle helm..and roman..and I will say I prefer the roman..you can hear..see and most importantly breath in it, it is open faced but thats why you have a nice big shield.

the hussar helm has alot in common with a roman legionaire helmet.

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The Kukri is among the nastiest weapons there are. Not only does it have pretty good abilities, its form also confuses people not familiar with it, it can even stab and it's easy to hide. Worse, if that thing gets a hit on you, you're dead as crap. The sheer amount of techniques to turn and twist with this thing properly is insane. Due to its shape, it also is very easy to cut arteries, sever muscles etc.

Very, very, very nasty gak.

   
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 Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:

but I have worn kubato, great helms...bucket helms..sallet, viking goggle helm..and roman..and I will say I prefer the roman..you can hear..see and most importantly breath in it, it is open faced but thats why you have a nice big shield.

the hussar helm has alot in common with a roman legionaire helmet.


Im sure you know, but I should point out, that most Viking helms were actually quite open, and quite breathable.. For instance with this one:

Spoiler:

I'd be more worried getting my beard caught in the chain mail

Ohh... and this is totally not historical, but I thought it was too awesome not to share:

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yeah..I dont like goggles or slits in helms..i guess real world combat has made me value my peripheral vision to much..lol

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I'd never settle for anything but a Viking Helmet. Anyone who ever wore a closed helmet can understand. Vision? Barely any. Hearing stuff? Nigh impossible. Weight? My poor neck. Viking Helmets, to me, are a good compromise between confortable and protective.

As Soo perfectly pointed out: peripheral vision is the absolutey key to winning a battle.

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 Artorias the Abysswalker wrote:
Whatever weapon, whatever warrior, nothing beats a group of Roman legionaires in a testudo/phalanx formation. It's like walking through an oversized food processor.
Except Parthian horse archers. It was a massacre.

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 Sigvatr wrote:

As Soo perfectly pointed out: peripheral vision is the absolutey key to winning a battle.
Depends. Things like the Froghelm or Sallet would certainly see battle, (less the froghelm, and more the Sallet), but they would be used exclusively by mounted knights. As such, the damage they do on the charge is important, and they don't "need" as much peripheral vision as someone who started on foot. Of course, if that knight gets unhorsed, then its a different ball game....
   
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Frogmouth helms were primarily for jousting tournys..to minimize the chance a sliver of wood could get stuck in your eyes...
and helms used by mounted troops could afford to be more restricted in vision, foot troops needed less obstructed fields of view.

and when unhorsed...well the reason that some knights wore a helm under a great helm is the likely reason for that...pitch the bucket and get your view back.

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 Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:
 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
 Artorias the Abysswalker wrote:
Whatever weapon, whatever warrior, nothing beats a group of Roman legionaires in a testudo/phalanx formation. It's like walking through an oversized food processor.


Except the Scots... there's a reason the Romans built a wall, and put a sign up that read "You shall not pass" on the Roman side of it



to be fair it was mainly to keep their sheep safe....


And they werent worth conquering properly.


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 Sigvatr wrote:
The Kukri is among the nastiest weapons there are. Not only does it have pretty good abilities, its form also confuses people not familiar with it, it can even stab and it's easy to hide. Worse, if that thing gets a hit on you, you're dead as crap. The sheer amount of techniques to turn and twist with this thing properly is insane. Due to its shape, it also is very easy to cut arteries, sever muscles etc.

Very, very, very nasty gak.


Its ok I guess. The real lesson is don't feth with a Gurkha.

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The Gurkhas are scary people and not because of their weapons.

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 purplefood wrote:
The Gurkhas are scary people and not because of their weapons.


Agreed, but a weapon designed to disembowel on the first thrust is still scary.
   
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 Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:
yeah..I dont like goggles or slits in helms..i guess real world combat has made me value my peripheral vision to much..lol


With slits you can still get plenty of vision. A Corinthian helm doesn't restrict your vision very much at all.

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 Soo'Vah'Cha wrote:
Frogmouth helms were primarily for jousting tournys..to minimize the chance a sliver of wood could get stuck in your eyes...


Yes, though it wasn't unheard of for them to be used in battle... I would say that ANY helm that was fastened to the shoulders in a fixed manner was primarily a jousting/parade/tourney piece and not really designed for battle use.
   
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 Soladrin wrote:
 purplefood wrote:
The Gurkhas are scary people and not because of their weapons.


Agreed, but a weapon designed to disembowel on the first thrust is still scary.


Most short swords will do that. You can easily make a messy cut with a gladius, you just need to twist before you draw. I don't know kukri is designed fro the precision slow cut of a gladius though, I suspect not as its a hacking weapon.
The main feature of the kukri is that its very good for cutting jungle plants and combat both, and is lightweight. that and it is still feared, for good reason, in the age of the assault rifle.

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 Da krimson barun wrote:
david choe wrote:
 Da krimson barun wrote:
Anyone else find it kinda weird that only four of his post aren't in ot?And all of them are about a guys miniatures being stolen?No "I collect (insert army here" or modelling or anything related to miniatures HE owns. Im not saying david is a troll but I aint saying he isn't.


What the heck are you talking about?

You want to talk about miniatures all day? Dude, I have been around since 2ed 40k and 5th edition WHFB. At the moment I am sick and bored of talking about army list and miniatures. The only thing that never change about this hobby are that people will always talk about the same topic for the different edition. What I find more interesting at this moment are gammers perspective about other subject.

I don't want to talk to you which is better, a power axe or power sword or should I high light my Orcs green skin with yellows...shhh...
Whats the point in joining a miniatures forum if all you do is talk about katanas?What are these "gammers?" I assume gammers are normal people who have lives outside of gammering?Why not go to a forum about weapons to talk about weapons?You don't see me joining a star wars forum to talk about ww2 tanks do you?



I don't think your posts are helping at all. Who cares if he doesn't talk about miniature's here, neither do I, I havnt touched a miniature in months does that mean I can't talk in the OFF TOPIC section either? And don't make fun of his spelling, 1 it just make you look like the troll and rather poor at debate, and 2 clearly English is not his first language so cut him some slack.


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 Soladrin wrote:
I still vote for Kukri.

There's a reason the Ghurka's were feared, this blade is one of those reasons.




I'll have to agree, those are not only incredibly versatile, but my god do they lob like an Axe! You're a knife khukri stop pretending you're a friging sword

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Not to start a debate here. Just an observation.

I love cold steel test. I know this is not science test. But good enough for me.

Check out 6 min mark. Check out the Odachi or Nodachi (great Katana). He sliced 4 pigs on a horizontal cut. Very impressive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8qQZLtIuiA

Here is also a Zweihander (great sword) very impressive cuts too. 2 pigs horizontal cut. About 5min mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hfLZozBVpM


Seeing how the guy at about 5:30 slice the pig. I have to say that I withdraw my comment on the "control" of the Katana cuts. Seems like with practice and master of the weapon, a person can control the great sword and behead with the skin on.

I still stands by the power of Katana cuts.

With modern technology... any sword can be just as hard or sharp. All things being equal now. You can make a Egyptian bronze sword in steel or Gladius(I think roman only had iron, I could be wrong) in steel. You can make a long sword with razor edge as a Katana. Everything is equal now. It comes down to the design of the weapon.

I stand by the logic and physic of impact and resistance of science in the cutting test.

Single edge and curve blade will cut better.

Weighted single edge curve blade will cut even better.

So if you want to design anything as a cutting tool, you better have it curved and single edge.

To be more specific about the single edge. Yes, you can make the Katana as double edge, but why single edge is better at cutting? Because of the Wedge of the single edge blade. A thick blade like Katana Back side to the front form a long large wedge. No double edge sword can have a large wedge like this. A standard long sword can not have a wedge this size or the sword will be too heavy to use (double from a 4lb to 8lb sword).

Somebody was arguing with me about how double edge can be as good cutting power and it is not true.

I give a example of Long Sword. Standard Long Sword vs. a Modify single edge Long Sword that has a fat back on one side and form a wedge on the cutting side. That modify single edge long sword will cut better than the standard long sword. This is apples to apples.

I guess you can even modify a Katana to have a few spikes on the back edge of the blade. Not long spike, just a bit like 1/4 inches razor sharp triangle points (like a shark tooth) , about 10 spaced out on the back blade.... and I think it would be cool (looks cool) and can be useful (in theory). The spikes are not fat, and when you slice something , the spikes will just follow the flow of the swing behind the blade as normal. The scaber will be a bit wider. This can change the whole fighting style and can add more attacking position.

Modify your weapon man... this is the modern time, Cold Steel can make it for you. Those of you who practice your swords, you guys ever want to modify it using modern technology? What modification would you do that is practical and useful?









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