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**Compel**

"The robots were everywhere, our army threw everything we had at them but they were unstoppable. They killed people randomly at first, then... They downloaded our knowledge and learned about us. They figured out who to keep and who to kill. Who they found... redundant."

"We never saw the being inside the ship. The thing in charge. I don't think there's anyone outside of there that has.

Fearing he would return, my parents sent me to Earth, after my father and other scientists decoded the memories of the robots left behind. That's how they found out he was called Brainiac, they planned to find him, fight him. Get back the people of Kandor.

We were all so... powerless. I never wanted to feel that way again, noone should."

From that youtube video, it sounds like they're going a different way, but really, Battlestar Galactica / Falling Skies style flashbacks, adjusting from powerless to powers and dealing with returning to 'normal life' again after surviving hell-on-Krypton.

That could be awesome.

**H.B.M.C.**

Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Also boobs are okay for eventual sex scene, but when fighting they should never get the hint of a focus imho.

Boobs should only get focus immediately prior to a sex scene? And, what, hidden at all other times?

You have a seriously messed up view of female sexuality Hybrid.

But don't take my word for it take someone else's.

**Ahtman**

Finding someone with a differing opinion isn't that hard on the internet, and even easier when looking at blogs.

**timetowaste85**

chaos0xomega wrote:
adamsouza wrote:
Harley Quinn will be featured in the upcoming Suicide Squad movie.

Black Widow is the Avengers Movie franchise.

TV is for seconds stringers

Yeah, theyre essentially giving Harley the Black Widow treatment, stick her in a show with a bunch of male characters so as to pay lip service to diversity. Then when she inevitably outshines her costars (as ScarJo has done in the Black Widow role) inexplicably refuse to give her a standalone show/film.

As for "TV being for second stringers", Superman had smallville, second stringer? Batman has Gotham, second stringer (and dont give me that gak about it not being a Batman show. Thus far Bruce Wayne and/or some form of Batman supervillain has managed to make it into every fething episode)? hell, The Flash is getting a film.

Lets look at some of the "first stringers" that are getting films:
Guardians of the Galaxy. That like 90 issue comic series from like 30 years ago that nobody had ever heard of.
Antman. Most people never heard of the dude and those that did dont even like him.
Black Panther. Lol, okay. I get it, first mainstream black comic hero, I respect that, but the number of people that really care about the character? hah
Doctor Strange? Solidly B-list.
Inhumans? If it wasnt for the feud over the X-Men, the Inhumans wouldnt he getting the exposure theyve been receiving.

Aquaman. The least popular and most niche member of the Justice League is getting a film.

Shazam and Cyborg too, granted their more popular than half of the Marvel entries Ive listed.

ScarJo outshone her costars? Hahahahaha, what friggin planet are you living on?! RDJ, Hulk, and Loki OWNED that film. ScarJo was just a nice piece of ass to watch. Her acting chops are only slightly better than Jessica Alba and Halle Berry (who both suck, but are hot). Outshone her colleagues indeed...

**Compel**

To be honest, I thought Scarlett Johansson was pretty good. Enjoyable enough, doesn't do anything I'd class as 'bad acting', was fun etc. But yeah, Halle Berry seems a bit one-hit-wonder (I actually haven't seen Monsters Ball, to be honest).

Anyhow, back to Supergirl... I've finished watching Superman: Unbound now and yeah, my thoughts from earlier in the thread weren't wrong. There's a whole load of good stuff there about Kara and Krypton / Kandor / Earth / Brainiac, that if you tweaked a bit, fleshed out some stuff, really would make a pretty darn awesome basis for a TV show.

As to female (and male) sexuality and still tying it in with superheroes, there's a Canadian TV show called 'Lost Girl' with female leads, female showrunners, mostly female driven overall, to be honest and it actually does dovetail quite nicely with that blogpost from HBMC. Oh, and is sexy as all heck (hurr, hurr, hurr, that's a pun if you've seen the show). - Both for male and female fans.

**H.B.M.C.**

Ahtman wrote:
Finding someone with a differing opinion isn't that hard on the internet, and even easier when looking at blogs.

Wow. You managed to erase everything said by that women with a single sentence. Great jorb!

**Computron**

adamsouza wrote:
Harley Quinn will be featured in the upcoming Suicide Squad movie.

Black Widow is the Avengers Movie franchise.

TV is for seconds stringers

Speaking of which, for those that watch Gotham. The female bank worker with the glasses in the Red Hood episode, Harley maybe?

I disagree about second stringers for tv btw...speaking of which....I think the tv Arrow guy is every bit as good if not more than the Avengers Hawkeye.

**Jehan-reznor**

Looking at the picures, she looks like Supergirl from the 50's is that cotton?

**cincydooley**

Computron wrote:

I disagree about second stringers for tv btw...speaking of which....I think the tv Arrow guy is every bit as good if not more than the Avengers Hawkeye.

Jeremy Renner is literally the worst part of the movie.

I'd rather see a Maria Hill movie than a Hawkeye movie.

**hotsauceman1**

cincydooley wrote:
Computron wrote:

I disagree about second stringers for tv btw...speaking of which....I think the tv Arrow guy is every bit as good if not more than the Avengers Hawkeye.

Jeremy Renner is literally the worst part of the movie.

I'd rather see a Maria Hill movie than a Hawkeye movie.

GOD YES.
Everything he does seems forced. Like the BW and HE love thingie.

**H.B.M.C.**

cincydooley wrote:
Jeremy Renner is literally the worst part of the movie.

Hawkeye is hardly in Avengers, and spends most of his screentime a brainwashed zombie.

**Ouze**

adamsouza wrote:
Harley Quinn will be featured in the upcoming Suicide Squad movie.

Black Widow is the Avengers Movie franchise.

TV is for seconds stringers

True facts. I can't wait to see Harley in live-action.

**Ahtman**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Ahtman wrote:
Finding someone with a differing opinion isn't that hard on the internet, and even easier when looking at blogs.

Wow. You managed to erase everything said by that women with a single sentence. Great jorb!

I didn't erase anything she said nor did I disagree with your general point, just that linking to a blog doesn't hold a lot of weight.

H.B.M.C. wrote:
cincydooley wrote:
Jeremy Renner is literally the worst part of the movie.

Hawkeye is hardly in Avengers

That is because he spends most of his time in MASH.

**chaos0xomega**

timetowaste85 wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
adamsouza wrote:
Harley Quinn will be featured in the upcoming Suicide Squad movie.

Black Widow is the Avengers Movie franchise.

TV is for seconds stringers

Yeah, theyre essentially giving Harley the Black Widow treatment, stick her in a show with a bunch of male characters so as to pay lip service to diversity. Then when she inevitably outshines her costars (as ScarJo has done in the Black Widow role) inexplicably refuse to give her a standalone show/film.

As for "TV being for second stringers", Superman had smallville, second stringer? Batman has Gotham, second stringer (and dont give me that gak about it not being a Batman show. Thus far Bruce Wayne and/or some form of Batman supervillain has managed to make it into every fething episode)? hell, The Flash is getting a film.

Lets look at some of the "first stringers" that are getting films:
Guardians of the Galaxy. That like 90 issue comic series from like 30 years ago that nobody had ever heard of.
Antman. Most people never heard of the dude and those that did dont even like him.
Black Panther. Lol, okay. I get it, first mainstream black comic hero, I respect that, but the number of people that really care about the character? hah
Doctor Strange? Solidly B-list.
Inhumans? If it wasnt for the feud over the X-Men, the Inhumans wouldnt he getting the exposure theyve been receiving.

Aquaman. The least popular and most niche member of the Justice League is getting a film.

Shazam and Cyborg too, granted their more popular than half of the Marvel entries Ive listed.

ScarJo outshone her costars? Hahahahaha, what friggin planet are you living on?! RDJ, Hulk, and Loki OWNED that film. ScarJo was just a nice piece of ass to watch. Her acting chops are only slightly better than Jessica Alba and Halle Berry (who both suck, but are hot). Outshone her colleagues indeed...

What movie were you watching? I'm talking about the latest Captain America Everyone I know personally, as well as most critics, agree that ScarJo ran away with that film and Marvel is idiotic for not giving her her own film (and lord knows she has more than a few interesting and relevant storylines they can produce).

**Mr Morden**

chaos0xomega wrote:
timetowaste85 wrote:
chaos0xomega wrote:
adamsouza wrote:
Harley Quinn will be featured in the upcoming Suicide Squad movie.

Black Widow is the Avengers Movie franchise.

TV is for seconds stringers

Yeah, theyre essentially giving Harley the Black Widow treatment, stick her in a show with a bunch of male characters so as to pay lip service to diversity. Then when she inevitably outshines her costars (as ScarJo has done in the Black Widow role) inexplicably refuse to give her a standalone show/film.

As for "TV being for second stringers", Superman had smallville, second stringer? Batman has Gotham, second stringer (and dont give me that gak about it not being a Batman show. Thus far Bruce Wayne and/or some form of Batman supervillain has managed to make it into every fething episode)? hell, The Flash is getting a film.

Lets look at some of the "first stringers" that are getting films:
Guardians of the Galaxy. That like 90 issue comic series from like 30 years ago that nobody had ever heard of.
Antman. Most people never heard of the dude and those that did dont even like him.
Black Panther. Lol, okay. I get it, first mainstream black comic hero, I respect that, but the number of people that really care about the character? hah
Doctor Strange? Solidly B-list.
Inhumans? If it wasnt for the feud over the X-Men, the Inhumans wouldnt he getting the exposure theyve been receiving.

Aquaman. The least popular and most niche member of the Justice League is getting a film.

Shazam and Cyborg too, granted their more popular than half of the Marvel entries Ive listed.

ScarJo outshone her costars? Hahahahaha, what friggin planet are you living on?! RDJ, Hulk, and Loki OWNED that film. ScarJo was just a nice piece of ass to watch. Her acting chops are only slightly better than Jessica Alba and Halle Berry (who both suck, but are hot). Outshone her colleagues indeed...

What movie were you watching? I'm talking about the latest Captain America Everyone I know personally, as well as most critics, agree that ScarJo ran away with that film and Marvel is idiotic for not giving her her own film (and lord knows she has more than a few interesting and relevant storylines they can produce).

I thought everyone was great in the Avengers and CA2 - that and Thor 2 were simply wonderful Superhero films......

Tried Lost Girl and couldn't get on with it - much prefer Vamp Diaries and Originals - better looking girls (IMO) and fun plots that they resolve ...........but then I didn't like Arrow......

**Platuan4th**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
cincydooley wrote:
Jeremy Renner is literally the worst part of the movie.

Hawkeye is hardly in Avengers, and spends most of his screentime a brainwashed zombie.

None of what you said actually contradicts anything he said.

**gorgon**

chaos0xomega wrote:
adamsouza wrote:
Harley Quinn will be featured in the upcoming Suicide Squad movie.

Black Widow is the Avengers Movie franchise.

TV is for seconds stringers

Yeah, theyre essentially giving Harley the Black Widow treatment, stick her in a show with a bunch of male characters so as to pay lip service to diversity. Then when she inevitably outshines her costars (as ScarJo has done in the Black Widow role) inexplicably refuse to give her a standalone show/film.

As for "TV being for second stringers", Superman had smallville, second stringer? Batman has Gotham, second stringer (and dont give me that gak about it not being a Batman show. Thus far Bruce Wayne and/or some form of Batman supervillain has managed to make it into every fething episode)? hell, The Flash is getting a film.

Lets look at some of the "first stringers" that are getting films:
Guardians of the Galaxy. That like 90 issue comic series from like 30 years ago that nobody had ever heard of.
Antman. Most people never heard of the dude and those that did dont even like him.
Black Panther. Lol, okay. I get it, first mainstream black comic hero, I respect that, but the number of people that really care about the character? hah
Doctor Strange? Solidly B-list.
Inhumans? If it wasnt for the feud over the X-Men, the Inhumans wouldnt he getting the exposure theyve been receiving.

Aquaman. The least popular and most niche member of the Justice League is getting a film.

Shazam and Cyborg too, granted their more popular than half of the Marvel entries Ive listed.

I agree with your 1st/2nd string assessments. And honestly, pretty much all the MCU characters were Marvel's second or third tier before the movies got made. Spidey and Logan are the only characters that can hang with Supes, Bats, and WW in terms of general cultural awareness.

Regarding Widow, Harley, etc...I think it's important to note that TV and film are FILLED with great characters who steal scenes like crazy, but don't deserve their own film.

Now, I agree that Widow and ScarJo probably deserve a film, and *much more* than the Carol Danvers Captain Marvel. Perhaps it's a case where ScarJo doesn't want to commit to it or something. Otherwise the CM project seems like one part "us too!" on the heels of WB's WW movie announcement, and another part "we have the formula to make a hit movie out of any character" hubris from Marvel.

Personally, I trust talent over formula in pretty much any industry or endeavor. We'll see if Marvel gets what has actually made its films successful.

But here I am helping the Marvel heads (intentionally?) derail another DC thread.

Compel wrote:
From that youtube video, it sounds like they're going a different way, but really, Battlestar Galactica / Falling Skies style flashbacks, adjusting from powerless to powers and dealing with returning to 'normal life' again after surviving hell-on-Krypton.

That could be awesome.

It could shake out a lot of different ways, but yeah, there's plenty of potential here.

**thedarkavenger**

adamsouza wrote:
Harley Quinn will be featured in the upcoming Suicide Squad movie.

Black Widow is the Avengers Movie franchise.

TV is for seconds stringers

The Flash is not a second stringer.

The actor who plays Harrison Wells is literally the best thing ever.

**Manchu**

I assumed this was for a movie and felt super let down.

Then I found out it was for a show and now it seems okay.

LOL

**H.B.M.C.**

chaos0xomega wrote:
Yeah, theyre essentially giving Harley the Black Widow treatment, stick her in a show with a bunch of male characters so as to pay lip service to diversity.

Or, maybe they included Widow because she's an interesting character and they have a fairly well known actress playing her.

gorgon wrote:
Now, I agree that Widow and ScarJo probably deserve a film, and *much more* than the Carol Danvers Captain Marvel. Perhaps it's a case where ScarJo doesn't want to commit to it or something. Otherwise the CM project seems like one part "us too!" on the heels of WB's WW movie announcement, and another part "we have the formula to make a hit movie out of any character" hubris from Marvel.

Or, maybe they decided to do Captain Marvel because she's an interesting character and they can get a fairly well known actress to play her.

And if Marvel has any hubris then they've earned it. They turned a movie with a talking tree into one of the biggest hits of last year.

Manchu wrote:I assumed this was for a movie and felt super let down.

Geddit? Super let down? Ha!

**kronk**

I'm fine with the costume. Not awe-inspiring, but it doesn't suck, either.

**chaos0xomega**

gorgon wrote:

I agree with your 1st/2nd string assessments. And honestly, pretty much all the MCU characters were Marvel's second or third tier before the movies got made. Spidey and Logan are the only characters that can hang with Supes, Bats, and WW in terms of general cultural awareness.

I dunno, growing up the major characters/"settings" (based almost entirely on things other than comic books, it wasnt something we got into until our late teens) for my friends and I were Superman, Batman, Spiderman, Ironman, Captain America (so basically the main male elements of the Avengers), and the X-men (as a whole rather than just Wolverine. In fact, most of us didn't really like Wolverine that much and leaned more towards Rogue/Storm/Cyclops/Gambit). Closely behind them would have been Green Lantern, Flash, Thor, Punisher (personal favorite at the time) and Hulk (these were characters we were familiar with, but not as popular as the previous 5 I mentioned). Aquaman was derided as useless (I always thought he was cool), Wonder Woman was for girls (and thus in 'who cares' territory), and Fantastic Four was basically "Seriously, who gives a feth?" (they had a tv show and exposure, but god I always hated them for some reason). Outside of that were a random assortment of heroes that we could maybe recognize on name or sight, but didn't have any real knowledge of.

Outside of the Marvel/DC realm there was Space Ghost, Birdman, and Spawn (and probably some others that I cant remember), which I think were arguably more popular amongst my circle of friends then all except for Batman and Spiderman.

**Computron**

Now Spawn is a movie that could do with some digital remastering, particularly the hell scenes. So original for its time.

**hotsauceman1**

I would argue hulk is anew Alister

**gorgon**

chaos0xomega wrote:
gorgon wrote:

I agree with your 1st/2nd string assessments. And honestly, pretty much all the MCU characters were Marvel's second or third tier before the movies got made. Spidey and Logan are the only characters that can hang with Supes, Bats, and WW in terms of general cultural awareness.

I dunno, growing up the major characters/"settings" (based almost entirely on things other than comic books, it wasnt something we got into until our late teens) for my friends and I were Superman, Batman, Spiderman, Ironman, Captain America (so basically the main male elements of the Avengers), and the X-men (as a whole rather than just Wolverine. In fact, most of us didn't really like Wolverine that much and leaned more towards Rogue/Storm/Cyclops/Gambit). Closely behind them would have been Green Lantern, Flash, Thor, Punisher (personal favorite at the time) and Hulk (these were characters we were familiar with, but not as popular as the previous 5 I mentioned). Aquaman was derided as useless (I always thought he was cool), Wonder Woman was for girls (and thus in 'who cares' territory), and Fantastic Four was basically "Seriously, who gives a feth?" (they had a tv show and exposure, but god I always hated them for some reason). Outside of that were a random assortment of heroes that we could maybe recognize on name or sight, but didn't have any real knowledge of.

But that's you, and look where you're posting.

Most non-comics fans weren't very familiar with most of those Marvel characters before the movies. People know that Superman is Clark Kent, loves Lois, and that he fights Lex Luthor, and people know about rich guy Bruce Wayne who dresses like a bat and fights clowns with the Batmobile and various gadgets. But they didn't know about Tony Stark and Iron Man. They might have been generally familiar with Cap, but only as a guy with a shield and not that he's Steve Rogers, a laboratory-created super-soldier from WWII. They didn't know who Nick Fury is, or about Hawkeye or Black Widow.

Give Marvel credit...they elevated those characters. They had to, because they didn't have Spidey or Wolverine. And that's why they had to do all the introductory origin films, and WB doesn't.

**Compel**

I'd argue that The Hulk would traditionally have been an A list too, as the Lou Ferrigno show really was in the public consciousness back in the day. But yeah, seriously, if you can check out superman unbound cheaply, do so.

**H.B.M.C.**

DC had Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman.
Marvel had Spider-Man, Hulk, and then Wolverine broke out. People also knew who Captain America was.

Fact of that matter is now all of this is moot. They can take D listers and make big films out of them (GoTG), and A-listers can be on TV (TV only for C-listers? I guess that's why Batman has had so many shows over the years...).

**AegisGrimm**

I'm just waiting to see DC elevate itself above network programming..........

The old joke about marvel making a blockbuster movie with a space-ent and a racoon applies. At this rate we'll see two seasons of Supergirl before a full-on Justice League movie.

**Ahtman**

AegisGrimm wrote:
I'm just waiting to see DC elevate itself above network programming..........

Their animated films are pretty good and not network programming.

**H.B.M.C.**

Ahtman's right. The Flashpoint one they did a while back was really cool.