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 Grimtuff wrote:

I had a game like that when I was a kid.

Spoiler:

And all of a sudden I've discovered what really first laid the path that got me into minis collecting... I don't think I ever actually had the game but I certainly had some of the figures.

Combine that with my Micro Machines military and my 'Ring Raiders' figures and all of a sudden my childhood becomes so clear...

 KingmanHighborn wrote:

Bottle wrote:Something tells me that the Sigmarines are going to be dirt cheap on eBay. GW wanted to make a shiny new faction to draw in new players, but they ended up getting out shined by the new Chaos :-p

I doubt it, most retails on ebay are still asking near retail for a lot of things, the price might seem lower but they jack the shipping up well over what the shipping will actually cost to cover.

I was commenting that most people seem more interested in the great chaos sculpts over the Sigmarines.

Stuff from current boxsets always goes very very cheap. Try searching Chaos Cultists from Dark Vengence and you'll see.

Well the only thing from the AoS previews that looks like it might be interesting to have is the battle cat. (Thinking about grabbing some to be a feline version of Thunderwolf Calvary)

Everything else looks horrible. Like vomit worthy horrible.

The chaos cultists yeah are averaging about a buck a model. But when you HAVE to have at least 20-30 to even be a viable choice in the main game it's still a punch to the wallet.

Do all the other Chaos Gods exist? Why has it always got to be Khorne? I think Khorne is the only mono-build Daemon army that could actually win games. The GW seems to push certain things too heavily. Warhammer, to me, was more compelling than 40K in that its factions were just more interesting and received far more attention. The Eldar factions, Necrons, Tau and Orks all feel like also-rans in 40K. It's all about the Imperium and Chaos. Now it sounds Warhammer is going down that route.

Maybe they'd be financially better off if they glorified more than just two factions (and in Chaos's case, just one quarter of that faction).

I'd far rather play Skaven or Ogres than the Empire... who the hell wants to play Empire, they're just completely stock medieval humans?

I'm really not sure where people are getting "battle cat" from in regards to the mount. It looks like a dragon/reptilian mount not a feline...

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'm really not sure where people are getting "battle cat" from in regards to the mount. It looks like a dragon/reptilian mount not a feline...

Yeah, it reminded me of a Lizardmen beast when I first saw it. I'm guessing it's some kind of wingless dragon?

 NoPoet wrote:
Do all the other Chaos Gods exist? Why has it always got to be Khorne? I think Khorne is the only mono-build Daemon army that could actually win games. The GW seems to push certain things too heavily. Warhammer, to me, was more compelling than 40K in that its factions were just more interesting and received far more attention. The Eldar factions, Necrons, Tau and Orks all feel like also-rans in 40K. It's all about the Imperium and Chaos. Now it sounds Warhammer is going down that route.

Maybe they'd be financially better off if they glorified more than just two factions (and in Chaos's case, just one quarter of that faction).

I'd far rather play Skaven or Ogres than the Empire... who the hell wants to play Empire, they're just completely stock medieval humans?

Hey, I love the Empire! I like fielding an army of old men with beards and no shoes that die horribly against whatever they face. :-)

Problem is the rules won't be good. Because this is games workshop. They don't release their beta rules to the public for fine tuning it feedback. Nor do they pay top creative talent a premium for quality product. No they make their crappy rules set, and when issues inevitably come around, you are expected to friendly dice it off. I harbor no hope for these rules, and they can't even be asked to FAQ their problems.

For those that are finding it difficult to see the head in the blurry picture.



I would definitely say more dragon than feline.

I am looking forward to better reveal pictures soon.

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'm really not sure where people are getting "battle cat" from in regards to the mount. It looks like a dragon/reptilian mount not a feline...

Kan, given the age you have in your profile you should be aware of who He Man was.

Even if you can't see it you know exactly what is being referenced.

 Grimtuff wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
I'm really not sure where people are getting "battle cat" from in regards to the mount. It looks like a dragon/reptilian mount not a feline...

Kan, given the age you have in your profile you should be aware of who He Man was.

Even if you can't see it you know exactly what is being referenced.

Well aware. But that hasn't stopped people from saying that it's a cat.

And quite frankly, it was a subtle reminder to get the stupid jokes out of this thread and get back on topic.

Don't have anything to post on topic? Then don't post. It's not difficult.


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 Orock wrote:
Problem is the rules won't be good. Because this is games workshop. They don't release their beta rules to the public for fine tuning it feedback. Nor do they pay top creative talent a premium for quality product. No they make their crappy rules set, and when issues inevitably come around, you are expected to friendly dice it off. I harbor no hope for these rules, and they can't even be asked to FAQ their problems.

How many companies really release their "beta rules to the public for fine tuning it feedback"?

Well dang thanks for the image enhancement Inspector. I guess NOTHING is good in this set.

Sorry Kan, but comparing the models in the thread to pop culture icons is on topic, or as on topic as anything is in a rumour thread.

 Kanluwen wrote:

How many companies really release their "beta rules to the public for fine tuning it feedback"?

Wizards of the Coast

Mantic?


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Mierce?

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Orock wrote:
Problem is the rules won't be good. Because this is games workshop. They don't release their beta rules to the public for fine tuning it feedback. Nor do they pay top creative talent a premium for quality product. No they make their crappy rules set, and when issues inevitably come around, you are expected to friendly dice it off. I harbor no hope for these rules, and they can't even be asked to FAQ their problems.

How many companies really release their "beta rules to the public for fine tuning it feedback"?

Surely you were around for Privateer Press' WMH Mk2 field test?

Hell, even GW did it with the trail assault rules to name but one. Forgeworld all the time too.

The mount looks like some sort of dragon kitty to me. It's the tail and ears.

I actually really like it myself. I think it's a awesome idea.

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

How many companies really release their "beta rules to the public for fine tuning it feedback"?

Wizards of the Coast

Warlord

 Grimtuff wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Orock wrote:
Problem is the rules won't be good. Because this is games workshop. They don't release their beta rules to the public for fine tuning it feedback. Nor do they pay top creative talent a premium for quality product. No they make their crappy rules set, and when issues inevitably come around, you are expected to friendly dice it off. I harbor no hope for these rules, and they can't even be asked to FAQ their problems.

How many companies really release their "beta rules to the public for fine tuning it feedback"?

Surely you were around for Privateer Press' WMH Mk2 field test?

Hell, even GW did it with the trail assault rules to name but one. Forgeworld all the time too.

In regards to FW, I'd say no, not really. Obviously their "Monster of the Week" models get experimental rules as a free download, and they get changed before being published in the next book, based on feedback, but their main series of rules, i.e. Heresy 30k, is almost all done completely in house. Not that it changes anything, from what I've seen, H30k is a far more balanced game than anything GW design studio puts out.

 -Shrike- wrote:

In regards to FW, I'd say no, not really. Obviously their "Monster of the Week" models get experimental rules as a free download, and they get changed before being published in the next book, based on feedback

That's what I was referring to.

I haven't seen anyone else mention it, but have you noticed that the squad sizes appear to be 5 and 3 ?

As for the battelcat debate. Thie silhouette of that citter is defitnely more giant cat than reptile, so I can see the confusion.
Being that I enjoyed watching He-Man as a kid, I'm going to still refer to it as BatteCat wether it's a reptile or not

 Strombones wrote:

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

How many companies really release their "beta rules to the public for fine tuning it feedback"?

Wizards of the Coast

Warlord

Mantic, Privateer Press. Wyrd and Hawk wargames send out the rules to the community to beta test before fine tuning. Also alot (not all) listen to feedback after release as well to make things more balanced.

I think I am going mad.. but the ones with the two handers.. I am looking at the faces and daring to wonder if they are supposed to be female?

Probably just the page at an angle and the reflection of the flash.

In a gamed named Warhammer, we finally have an all Warhammer wielding faction !

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
I think I am going mad.. but the ones with the two handers.. I am looking at the faces and daring to wonder if they are supposed to be female?

Probably just the page at an angle and the reflection of the flash.

I don't think they have gender so to speak I imagine them more like light angels clones of sigmar ( thats why they all have the same mask and all look the same). But yes GW females are quite masculine

 NAVARRO wrote:

 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
I think I am going mad.. but the ones with the two handers.. I am looking at the faces and daring to wonder if they are supposed to be female?

Probably just the page at an angle and the reflection of the flash.

I don't think they have gender so to speak I imagine them more like light angels clones of sigmar ( thats why they all have the same mask and all look the same). But yes GW females are quite masculine

And as if GW would make female models without enormous boobplate or otherwise visible breasts

I kinda sorta reminds me of the game Chronopia from way back when.

Avrik_Shasla wrote: They needed a quick skirmish game to take on Warmahordes, and they may pull it off with this release, if the rules are good that is.

That's all well and good, but what about the mass battle game that so many people enjoyed?

If they wanted a skirmish game to rival other similar games, they should have brought out something new entirely, something which would have attracted new players, as well as both old 40k and WHFB players, whilst GW continued to make profit on Warhammer, even if they had to scale it down (in terms of kits, shelf space etc) and stop production of some of the least popular kits.

Came in here as our local GW is offering local gaming clubs an "after hours" look and play at the new AoS stuff and I wanted to see whether I would be able to restrain my laughter and derision long enough to make it through the event.

Looks like I will not. Now I have a free evening to paint up my Bones models and plan my paint jobs on my KoW2 KS army

 Red Corsair wrote:
I have always hated the sigmar style hammers. The vast majority are so unrealistically huge and stupid I can't take them seriously at all. Whats worse is that every fething model in that faction has a clown hammer, some two, and one is wielding one with so much mass and ornate crap on it, it would make Harley Quin blush.

I wouldn't worry too much about it, most people will clip off the hammers and replace them with Bolters anyway.