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2015/04/30 07:15:22
Subject: Re:Dakka is Making a Game - Maelstrom's Edge - LIVE ON KICKSTARTER NOW
Pacific wrote: Great to see the total jump up beyond $30k!
Those terrain sprues are bloody brilliant, will be so easy just to make some plasticard boxes and stick some of those on the sides.
On thing that struck me on seeing them is that perhaps they could be used to jazz up some of the MDF terrain that is readily available, which is an option for someone like me who is pretty useless at scrtachbuilding. The MDF looks great but suffers from looking slightly boxy at times and well, MDF-y, so I am excited at the ability to take some plastic bits from the Maelstrom's Edge terrain sprue just to add a bit of je ne sais quois to the whole thing.
Also, can't wait for Lego to post the update today regarding the Kaddar Nova!
I wouldn't be surprised if someone doesn't end up designing mdf buildings specifically to take the windows etc from the terrain sprues.
Me, I'm going to go with adobe style buildings made from foam board and detailed with the bits from the sprues and whatever else comes to mind. I'll then fill the inside of the buildings with expanding foam to make them strong as I do most of my gaming down my LGC.
I'm going for a 2nd ed Ork style, half a dozen buildings should look good.
2015/04/30 08:18:24
Subject: Dakka is Making a Game - Maelstrom's Edge - LIVE ON KICKSTARTER NOW
Lost Egg wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if someone doesn't end up designing mdf buildings specifically to take the windows etc from the terrain sprues.
Me, I'm going to go with adobe style buildings made from foam board and detailed with the bits from the sprues and whatever else comes to mind. I'll then fill the inside of the buildings with expanding foam to make them strong as I do most of my gaming down my LGC.
I'm going for a 2nd ed Ork style, half a dozen buildings should look good.
That's a good point, well made. I think even a cludger like me should be able to cobble together a basic adobe style building plus it fits in the sort of wild-west, frontier life scenario that the books evoke.
I'll make up templates and share with anyone who'd like them. I made up a load of adobe buildings last year...still got the templates somewhere so just need to adjust the window / door sizes...
2015/04/30 08:58:08
Subject: Re:Dakka is Making a Game - Maelstrom's Edge - LIVE ON KICKSTARTER NOW
There were some excellent templates for that style of building in an old WD, back in the days when GW encouraged that kind of thing...
Foam board, with thinned-down filler painted over the outside to get a rough finish - Worked very well, and with the sprue additions could make a very good sci-fi frontier town look.
Thats where I got my idea from. My templates were just based on that but a bit bigger to match the modern scale of 40k minis.
The textured paint I used is too grainy for my liking and the painting wasn't quite right so I'm eager to re-make them, the additions from the ME terrain sprue can only make them better.
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2015/04/30 10:17:50
Subject: Dakka is Making a Game - Maelstrom's Edge - LIVE ON KICKSTARTER NOW
We've reached our first stretch goal, and all the box sets get a free Kaddar Nova model included! This Karist Enclave priest really increases the synergy of a Karist force, as well as having a few nifty tricks up his sleeve courtesy of the cybel reactor on his back. See our update for more info on his fluff and rules:
Oh he sounds quite nasty. The rule snippet with the extra VP/army-wide Stoic for killing someone in his explosion seems to foster a suicide bomber mentality to his usage on the tabletop though. Do you find that this goes against the background of it being a rare/extreme act of sacrifice? I can't see there being many Kaddar Nova's left if they all try to die in battle
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It does not foster much of a suicide bomber type situation as he is too valuable in general tactical flexibility to just throw away, so that tends to only be in the rare circumstances that the tactical situation makes it a reasonable thing to do.
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2015/04/30 10:55:31
Subject: Re:Dakka is Making a Game - Maelstrom's Edge - LIVE ON KICKSTARTER NOW
legoburner wrote: It does not foster much of a suicide bomber type situation as he is too valuable in general tactical flexibility to just throw away, so that tends to only be in the rare circumstances that the tactical situation makes it a reasonable thing to do.
...or maybe if his performance has been pretty bad in-game, then you can always blow him up in revenge
2015/04/30 11:09:24
Subject: Dakka is Making a Game - Maelstrom's Edge - LIVE ON KICKSTARTER NOW
Samurai Seppiku, if he fails to lead his brethren to victory, he can blow up and try to give them their best chance to still seize the day in the 11th hour.
I know we won't see a Behemoth mech show up in game (sounds like they're way too big for the scope of the battles), but what about the prowler APC (armored or unarmored)? A little unnecessary at the size of the battle, but they sound pretty cool and I want one
2015/04/30 11:17:25
Subject: Dakka is Making a Game - Maelstrom's Edge - LIVE ON KICKSTARTER NOW
I know we won't see a Behemoth mech show up in game (sounds like they're way too big for the scope of the battles), but what about the prowler APC (armored or unarmored)? A little unnecessary at the size of the battle, but they sound pretty cool and I want one
Failing that, will there at least be rules for incorporating vehicles even if there aren't models for them?
It wouldn't be difficult to proxy a generic sci-fi APC, which is something I might do anyway, even if it's just as terrain.
GrimDork wrote:Samurai Seppiku, if he fails to lead his brethren to victory, he can blow up and try to give them their best chance to still seize the day in the 11th hour.
I know we won't see a Behemoth mech show up in game (sounds like they're way too big for the scope of the battles), but what about the prowler APC (armored or unarmored)? A little unnecessary at the size of the battle, but they sound pretty cool and I want one
I know we won't see a Behemoth mech show up in game (sounds like they're way too big for the scope of the battles), but what about the prowler APC (armored or unarmored)? A little unnecessary at the size of the battle, but they sound pretty cool and I want one
Failing that, will there at least be rules for incorporating vehicles even if there aren't models for them?
It wouldn't be difficult to proxy a generic sci-fi APC, which is something I might do anyway, even if it's just as terrain.
yakface has written the rules for vehicles but they won't be in the initial set - the cost of making an APC or big walker was too much to take on for the initial launch. I'm not sure if he's planning to include those rules in the book for the first game - we'll get back to you on that. If things go well we would like to make Behemoths and Prowlers later, but that would be a long way down the line as the priority would be getting new factions out. We do have the Hunter and Scarecrow mechs still to reveal though - they should fulfill some of that desire for big stompy robots!
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Will we see the actual model for the Kaddor Nova soon?
I'm well up for blowing him up every game but so far his art is the one and only thing that I have found underwhelming about the whole project. I'm hoping the model will make up for it!
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2015/04/30 12:40:19
Subject: Dakka is Making a Game - Maelstrom's Edge - LIVE ON KICKSTARTER NOW
I'm well up for blowing him up every game but so far his art is the one and only thing that I have found underwhelming about the whole project. I'm hoping the model will make up for it!
The model is having the finishing touches and paint job being applied as we speak I believe so will be revealed soon according to the comments on the KS page.
The model is 90% complete, but not yet ready (in plastic / tooling) waiting for another head, another part and 2 arm poses still, so it will still be a while until it is revealed - at the very best it would be at the end of the kickstarter, but more likely it would be after the kickstarter as tooling production slots are volatile and impossible to plan around.
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2015/04/30 14:20:59
Subject: Re:Dakka is Making a Game - Maelstrom's Edge - LIVE ON KICKSTARTER NOW
legoburner wrote: Here's the announcement update for the terrain - just $12 per sprue, an amazing $0.38 per element!
Spoiler:
We are kicking off the add-on facility with the most demanded add-on of all - our amazing terrain sprue for just $12 per sprue:
Each Sprue Containing: 1x Large Door, 2x Small Doors, 1x Light Fitting, 2x Microwave Projectors/Antennas, 4x Corner Caps, 1x Small Pipe Fitting (fits a standard drinking straw), 1x Large Pipe Fitting, 2x Computer Panels, 1x Trapdoor, 2x Shuttered Windows, 2x Fascias, 2x Tessellating Trapezoid Windows, 1x Ladder/Walkway, 2x Tech Edge Pieces, 8x Modular Edge Pieces.
Our terrain sprue is HUGE (almost the size of a sheet of A4 paper) and perfectly scaled to work with all 28mm-32mm games. The design is simple - get a box, or some cardboard, cut some holes in it and stick in our doors and windows and add edge pieces, then paint it and you have terrain unique to your table but still thematically linked to any other pieces you make with a minimum of effort. You can also use all of our fully plastic terrain elements to spruce up any other terrain kits you might have, with it adding especially great detailing to MDF and wood terrain kits. Even fantasy buildings can be turned completely sci-fi with the addition of our doors, pipe fittings and computer panels.
Add just $12 to your pledge for each additional terrain sprue you want to add on. As soon as we hit $45K in pledges, we'll be adding one free terrain sprue to every $90 pledge as well!
To help you imagine what you could do with these sprues, here are some of the things our team have made with them:
Hab Unit:
Pre-Fab Shop Before:
Pre-Fab Shop After:
Ruins
Pipes:
All of the above are made with simple materials like cardboard, foam core and plastic boxes and are then made sci-fi by our great terrain sprue. You can see a few more photos on our facebook page.
Add some additional terrain sprues to your pledge today! You will want a lot of them as they are great fun to work with!
Maybe I'm just being a cheapskate grongonard here, but $12 doesn't seem like an amazing deal. Compared it to the Pegasus Platformer or Chemical plant kits which are both great for similar greebling purposes but give you more than twice as many sprues and bits per-buck. At $5-7 a sprue, I'd strongly consider it, but at $12 each the value just isn't there. A shame since the bits are really well done, but as someone who does alot of terrain greebling, 38 cents per bit would add up really fast if making terrain of any notable size.
Still hope the KS does well, but it looks like I'm out.
Pegasus' RRP for their hexagon kit is $16 for 50 pieces (including some really tiny bits), ours is $12 for 32 pieces with no tiny bits. That puts pegasus at $0.32 per bit (including their 'gap filler' bits) and us at $0.375 for larger pieces. Our sprue is huge! Quite comparable I thought.
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2015/04/30 14:50:16
Subject: Dakka is Making a Game - Maelstrom's Edge - LIVE ON KICKSTARTER NOW
legoburner wrote: Pegasus' RRP for their hexagon kit is $16 for 50 pieces (including some really tiny bits), ours is $12 for 32 pieces with no tiny bits. That puts pegasus at $0.32 per bit (including their 'gap filler' bits) and us at $0.375 for larger pieces. Our sprue is huge! Quite comparable I thought.
I think it's important to note that the M'Edge terrain sprue has a better variety of bits with less duplication. The Pegasus hexagon kits get a little repetitive.
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Is the Kaddar Nova going to include an optional helmet head?
I think the one thing I'm most looking forward to with this line is the Hunter robot. There's something about it's aesthetic that I really like. It almost looks like it should be big enough to allow a pilot. Will the Epirians be getting any light, pilotable mecha in the future, or just unmanned robots?
Barzam wrote: Is the Kaddar Nova going to include an optional helmet head?
I think the one thing I'm most looking forward to with this line is the Hunter robot. There's something about it's aesthetic that I really like. It almost looks like it should be big enough to allow a pilot. Will the Epirians be getting any light, pilotable mecha in the future, or just unmanned robots?
The alternate head is a sort of masked/crowned head, but the piece is so tiny and detailed that getting it in plastic is proving a challenge and is part of the delay with the model.
All of the early Epirian plastics will be independent robots with basic AI that can be augmented by handlers, but they have scope for pretty much everything mechanical in the long run.
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2015/04/30 15:23:05
Subject: Dakka is Making a Game - Maelstrom's Edge - LIVE ON KICKSTARTER NOW
Backed the game, I really like what you guys are doing, after backing a couple failed miniature kickstarters, I've learned the red flags to hunt for, and you guys seem to have put in your due diligence. I really hope this game catches on, rules seem decent, though of course some games will need to be played to make sure!
One worry I have, is trying to grab from the 40k crowd. There seems to be some parallels to where one can make the argument it's just a knock off version; cybel network vs the warp, Esperians looking like straight up IG meets Tau, and the kind of "Grimdark" feel.
I can tell they might have been inspirations, and I plan to read the novels this weekend which I'll have a much better understanding. I'm in at $90 so far, and it should be going up.
Grats again on this, it seems like an amazing idea come to reality.
2015/04/30 16:00:20
Subject: Dakka is Making a Game - Maelstrom's Edge - LIVE ON KICKSTARTER NOW
GrimDork wrote: Behemoths in the book have pilots, not sure if they were a *lot* bigger than hunters or just somewhat larger.
In the books the Behemoth is maybe twice as large as the Hunters, but we've not done any art sketches for them as it was just too big a model for the initial launch and would require too many sprues, so if we did go to make Behemoth models it may end up changing size a little depending on the art/sculpting. Hopefully the game does well enough long term that we can make them as I think they'll look awesome but we have a fair few other things further up our priority list in the near future.
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