Your New Joker + "Suicide Squad" (movie)

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**Asherian Command**

I hate the design of the joker, but everyone else has interesting designs.

**Ensis Ferrae**

Asherian Command wrote:
I hate the design of the joker, but everyone else has interesting designs.

I think that there's a"to be fair" statement to be made here:

To be fair, I don't think we've seen the Joker in his full get-up just yet

**Asherian Command**

Ensis Ferrae wrote:
Asherian Command wrote:
I hate the design of the joker, but everyone else has interesting designs.

I think that there's a"to be fair" statement to be made here:

To be fair, I don't think we've seen the Joker in his full get-up just yet

Though true.

He looks like my hipster friends. Who acts a bit crazy. Reminds me of my friend.

infact he dresses like a goth kid and crazy green hair. I mean there is no laugh, no interesting get up yet. I would of rather liked to see the suit.

**KingCracker**

There is a squeek of his laugh towards the end of that trailer

**Ensis Ferrae**

KingCracker wrote:
There is a squeek of his laugh towards the end of that trailer

I think you can also hear it during that tiny bit where that dude is commenting about crazies, and Harley responds with "huh?" right in between those two lines you can hear it echoing from the subway thing that Harley is standing next to.

**LuciusAR**

So is the Joker actually part of the suicide squad or not? All the footage of him seems to be based around him as part of the Harley backstory and being chased/captured by Batman. Nothing of him with the squad. By the look of it he'll primarily appear in flashbacks.

**Ahtman**

If it is like the animated Suicide Squad (Attack on Arkham) then he will be the monkey-wrench in their plan. He might even be the main antagonist. So I suppose to answer the question no he is not part of the squad. He is way to unpredictable for that. Even for a team of villains he is incredibly untrustworthy.

**Kanluwen**

Everything that has been put forth by Snyder has Joker in opposition to the Squad.

**gorgon**

Yeah, I tend to think he's the target. Making Harley very important. Remember what Ayer said -- "Bad vs. Evil."

There were also rumors that Eisenberg would be in SS briefly. I dunno if that's true or false, but it at least feels to me like WB is setting up the villains as a consistent, organized(-ish) force in the DCCU. Maybe the formation of a Secret Society of Super-Villains or an Injustice League is what drives the creation of the JL instead of being the other way around.

**Ratius**

Does anyone else think, whatever Crew you run with......

Would kick the feth out of this "Squad"?

Looks about as lame as it can get. V

Cmon up to Tír Chonaill....pffff ....lame

**BeAfraid**

I have heard a rumor (from someone who was at Comicon) that the Joker in Suicide Squad is actually Jason Todd, and not the "real" Joker.

MB

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Or was it Tim Drake?

I know that one of them was killed by the Joker, and the other, according to one of the Batman timelines, was tortured and disfigured to look like the joker (eventually thinking he WAS the Joker).

So, the point is: The Joker in SS is the one who thinks he is the Joker, and that accounts for all of the Tattoos, and grill.

MB

**Compel**

I really, really hope not...

That's probably referring to Dick Greyson in "The Dark Knight Strikes Again" and is an awful, awful book.

**Waaagh_Gonads**

The video clip has greatly reassured me about the Joker.

The initial release pic made it look like they were trying too hard, but the vid brings him back down to a tilted and not quite right nutter, rather than the psychotic mastermind Joker of Heath Ledger.

They needed to have him with a new look and character to get away from Heath ledger's role and I think they look like they might pull it off.

**BeAfraid**

Compel wrote:
I really, really hope not...

That's probably referring to Dick Greyson in "The Dark Knight Strikes Again" and is an awful, awful book.

I remembered that one, but it was a different reference that was hinted at at Comicon.

And, yes. The Dark Knight Strikes Again was typical Miller, letting us know he thinks we are all pitiful trash who do not deserve his awesomeness.

MB

**gorgon**

I heard that rumor and think it's BS. I don't think that you ink Jared Leto to play a substitute Joker. And I think it's a bit too convoluted for general audiences. My guess is that it was spawned by someone who really doesn't like the look of this Joker, and is still hoping that a different, "real" Joker will appear in the DCCU.

**Inquisitor Lord Bane**

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:
The video clip has greatly reassured me about the Joker.

The initial release pic made it look like they were trying too hard, but the vid brings him back down to a tilted and not quite right nutter, rather than the psychotic mastermind Joker of Heath Ledger.

They needed to have him with a new look and character to get away from Heath ledger's role and I think they look like they might pull it off.

I was almost reassured about the Joker when I saw the trailer.

"I'm not gonna kill you, I'm just gonna hurt you really really bad".

Thats lame from the joker. He looks like he's in a back-alley doctor's office, with a defibrillator. There's plenty of doctor's jokes to be made, because thats what the Joker does. He makes wisecracks, even when being beaten within an inch of his life. I hope they do better with the rest of the movie.

EDIT: spelling

**BeAfraid**

Inquisitor Lord Bane wrote:
Waaagh_Gonads wrote:
The video clip has greatly reassured me about the Joker.

The initial release pic made it look like they were trying too hard, but the vid brings him back down to a tilted and not quite right nutter, rather than the psychotic mastermind Joker of Heath Ledger.

They needed to have him with a new look and character to get away from Heath ledger's role and I think they look like they might pull it off.

I was almost reassured about the Joker when I saw the trailer.

"I'm not gonna kill you, I'm just gonna hurt you really really bad".

Thats lame from the joker. He looks like he's in a back-alley doctor's office, with a defibrillator. There's plenty of doctor's jokes to be made, because thats what the Joker does. He makes wisecracks, even when being beaten within an inch of his life. I hope they do better with the rest of the movie.

EDIT: spelling

That was EXACTLY what I thought.

I mean:

• Do you need a Jump start?
• You look like your batteries are running low.
• Doctor, He's dying of laughter! His heart has stopped! Clear!
• Isn't this situation just Shocking?!
• Why, Darling? Are there sparks flying between us?

. . .

And so on.

There are ANY NUMBER of bad wisecracks or jokes that existed there... If I had more context in the scene, I could probably come up with more, and better ones. Why could not the professional writers do so?

MB

**reds8n**

http://io9.com/batmans-role-in-suicide-squad-is-even-more-cruicial-tha-1720898228?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_facebook&utm_source=io9_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

The recent Suicide Squad footage gave us a glimpse of Batman’s cameo in the film—but there’s even more to it than we realized. A new interview with Batman v Superman director Zack Snyder and his collaborators has revealed a lot more about how these films will connect up.

Snyder and company spoke to Empire Magazine (which is where you get the photo above, these, and some new ones below) about the entirety of the DC movie universe, how the films link up, how they’re being constructed, and specifics about multiple story points in Batman v Superman. Here are the highlights.

Minor spoilers follow.

Batman is the one who personally captured every single member of the Suicide Squad and in the trailer, we’re seeing a flashback to how he captured Harley Quinn. (No mention if he gets the Joker, too.)
Justice League was the jumping off point for this whole DC universe idea. “What we are doing is ground up all the way. It is one giant story,” Snyder said. “The first thing we had was the Justice League concept. The other movies, in a way, have to support that. That is our Wonder Woman, our Aquaman. They have their own creative concepts that supports them, but they do serve Justice League in the coming together of those heroes. I want all the other directors of the other films to be able to stretch their legs and do what they want, but at the same time there is a big interconnected universe. I have given everyone amazing access to our story, to me, and what we are doing. All the films have like-minded conceptual jumping on points.”
Batman will have a lot of history to him. “We are playing him 45 or 46” years old, Snyder said. “He has been Batman for 20 years. All the history is there. Was there a Robin at one time? Possibly. We want to assume that Batman has reached this point in his life and career as a superhero, and Superman represents a sort of philosophical change. He is a paradigm shift for Batman: ‘I’ve been fighting criminals all my life, trying to find justice, and now I am confronted with a concept that is transcendent to me.’ In the face of Superman, a man robbing a bank doesn’t matter. He’s having a crisis of conscience. ‘Am I really just a vigilante who stalks the alleys of Gotham?’ It is rich stuff that he deals with. Ben does an amazing job.”
The Batman v Superman trailer already reveals that Robin has died, but this interview strongly suggests Commissioner James Gordon will also already be dead. This would confirm a rumor that surfaced several months back.
To some, Batman may be considered the villain of Batman v Superman: “It’s a point of view thing,” said Snyder. “That is why ‘Dawn of Justice’ is the full title. What it does is allow us to start this conversation.”
Bruce Wayne will not be living in Wayne Manor in Batman v Superman. He’s in a lakeside house called “The Glasshouse.”
Snyder was very intimidated at the thought of doing a Batman solo film. “If it was a Batman movie it would be a much more difficult proposition because of how good Chris’ movies are,” said Snyder. “We live in gratitude to those movies. Chris set a tone for the DC Universe, and separated us from Marvel in a great way. We are the legacy of those movies.”
Clark Kent and Lois Lane are now “shacking up” together in Metropolis.
Aquaman has an “elusive cameo” in Batman v Superman. “You will understand he exists,” Snyder said.

There's some pics if you click through but nothing too exciting.

Seen a theory about the Aquaman "cameo", not overly convinced however.

**gorgon**

Well, this takes what the Fellowship of the Ring cast did to another level.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/08/19/heres-margot-robbies-harley-quinn-giving-her-suicide-squad-mates-tattoos

Spoiler:

**KingCracker**

That's cool. Any idea what SKWAD means?

**Kanluwen**

It's a bad spelling of "Squad"?

Or the cast are big fans of DEFF SKWADRON...

**BobtheInquisitor**

Oh man, now I'm not sure whether the movie will be better if it's great or if it's Fant4stic. Call me a jerk, but I'm starting to think it's the latter.

**d-usa**

They got tattoos, therefore it sucks?

**BobtheInquisitor**

d-usa wrote:
They got tattoos, therefore it sucks?

No, it would be hilarious if they got tattoos and then it turned out to suck.

**Ensis Ferrae**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
d-usa wrote:
They got tattoos, therefore it sucks?

No, it would be hilarious if they got tattoos and then it turned out to suck.

Maybe they made what amounts to a "snuff" film?? All those extras weren't just lying around when they got ran over, thrown of the 200th floor of a Gotham building and all that... they actually were

**gorgon**

Apparently David Ayer has a knack for bringing together groups of actors and creating camaraderie. But tattooing 'SKWAD' on each other goes beyond 'camaraderie'.

I dunno if it has any real bearing on the movie, but it looks like this cast got super-tight and had a blast making the film. It doesn't seem like it could hurt, right?

The Hollywood Reporter got the BvS and SS casts together for a photo shoot at Comic-Con. The first pic they showed was everyone playing nice, but the second kinda shows the differences in the casts' personalities...maybe appropriately so.

**Ahtman**

While everyone else seems to be active in some capacity Affleck is looking at the camera with a "come at me bro" look. Batman isn't messing around it seems.

The guy under Adam Beach is also looking at the camera but has a goofy look on his face.

**Frazzled**

gorgon wrote:
Apparently David Ayer has a knack for bringing together groups of actors and creating camaraderie. But tattooing 'SKWAD' on each other goes beyond 'camaraderie'. I dunno if it has any real bearing on the movie, but it looks like this cast got super-tight and had a blast making the film. It doesn't seem like it could hurt, right?

The Hollywood Reporter got the BvS and SS casts together for a photo shoot at Comic-Con. The first pic they showed was everyone playing nice, but the second kinda shows the differences in the casts' personalities...maybe appropriately so.

is that Superman to the left? Does Harley get to beat the crap out of Supes?

**gorgon**

Ahtman wrote:
While everyone else seems to be active in some capacity Affleck is looking at the camera with a "come at me bro" look. Batman isn't messing around it seems.

Yeah, I guess what I find funny about that pic is how many of the actors are almost in character.

On the SS side, you have the villains throwing up signs and obviously making noise. Meanwhile, Superman is quietly looking on from afar with reserved bemusement. Wonder Woman is smiling, but has her back turned and wants nothing to do with that riffraff. Lex looks like he wants to get away from ALL of them. And Batman is thinking about who he gets to break first, starting with the cameraman.

**Alpharius**

Nice observations there gorgon - I guess they *are* all in character!