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We don't even know what's in the codex yet and already the ranting and wailing and gnashing of teeth has begun. If people hate this hobby so much... there's always 30k!

 DarkStarSabre wrote:


That SM Assault Squad has an Eviscerator. OH MY.

Pretty sure it's a heavy chain sword lol.

I went and picked up this week's WD, and decided to preorder 2 of the Blood Angels upgrade bits and 1 ASM box (from my local store).

I bought the ASM boxes because:

1. It says, "highly-poseable two-part pairs of legs"! How cool does that sound?
2. I kind of like the basing options, and I've always been fond of Mk VI armor front. WIth the chest eagle underneath is a really nice touch.
3. Two-handed options for assault marines? That sounds nifty. Plus, there look to be some good 1H poses. I would love more 1H angled right arms.

I'll pop open the box when I'm at the store; depending on the right/left arm options, quantity and configuration (and compatibility with other kits), I may buy up to 3 more boxes of 'em. For instance, DC comes with 2 full frames of tons of parts for 5 models, meaning you get an awesome amount of spare parts for everything else. Since BA are my thing at the moment, the most important aspect is to be able to use them with BA parts (yeah, yeah, in 2 years I'll be saying "SW" instead, but oh well).

For the people that are decrying the big 4 not needing more bits... Well, let's face it: people are going to be more likely to buy upgrade parts for the factions they are building/collecting than to start up a new faction. I would love to see Iron Hands and some other factions get some love, too, but GW has never really done much for factions other than BA/SW/UM/DA (and GK, though they're not really a "normal" SM faction).

What are the hints for next week. Just the Devastators?

 Eldarain wrote:
What are the hints for next week. Just the Devastators?

- Big Guns
- Theatre of War
- Golden Demon

Thanks, Talys

 Lockark wrote:

 DarkStarSabre wrote:


That SM Assault Squad has an Eviscerator. OH MY.

Pretty sure it's a heavy chain sword lol.

If you look at the cut off caption for picture 10 of the AM page, there is one and a half words: Sergeant and "scerator". Given the picture and word fragment, I'm betting he's got an eviserator.

<grumble grumble>

Still hopeful for a deathwatch sprue and plastic heresy marines.....

Holy smokes. Just reading White Dwarf, guys:

"A last little thing to note is that there are 10 front torso and 10 rear torso pieces in the kit, half with jump pack harnesses and half without, so now you don't have to ..."

WOW!!!

When has GW ever done THAT in a box of 5?! 10 torso fronts would have been really unusual, but 10 torso backs too?

--

By the way, the upgrade frames are not a bad deal if you think of it in terms of the old 10x shoulder pads being $10, and the new upgrade frame, which includes 10 (better) shoulder pads, plus some other useful stuff, for $3.50 more.

Here are my thoughts on the Blood Angels sprue:

The sprue is actually has awesome value. There are TWO torso fronts. Since I have tons of old unbuilt command/devastator/tactical backs and other parts, this is effectively 2 models with spiffy armor. And those torso fronts are really nice, too. Definitely character or squad-leader quality!

The Iron Halo is a waste of plastic, because every BA player has them, and the regular heads are likewise not going to be helpful. The Sanguinary head is really nifty, but you already get them with Sanguinary guard. Other than Dante, who uses these? The Winged Skull is a waste of space too, because every BA player has these in excess. The chalice is cool if you still need a priest; it will save you $25 to buy a priest, haha. They even give you a second one (Why?!). And why did we get a ritual dagger? Give us a nice Thunderhammer or something, not that little pig sticker :(

 Talys wrote:
Holy smokes. Just reading White Dwarf, guys:

"A last little thing to note is that there are 10 front torso and 10 rear torso pieces in the kit, half with jump pack harnesses and half without, so now you don't have to ..."

Pretty sure that's been the case since the edition of assault marines that also came without jump packs.

That thing about 5 spare torsos is actually quite cool. I bought a bunch of 3rd party legs so I could use them and make a 10-man squad (well, one with jump packs and one with regular packs that is). Awesome!

 spiralingcadaver wrote:

 Talys wrote:
Holy smokes. Just reading White Dwarf, guys:

"A last little thing to note is that there are 10 front torso and 10 rear torso pieces in the kit, half with jump pack harnesses and half without, so now you don't have to ..."

Pretty sure that's been the case since the edition of assault marines that also came without jump packs.

Maybe it's just been so long since I've bought ASM :X

Yeah, they did that in the last Assault Marine box. It's nothing new. What is new is the price. +AUD$15 for no fething reason.

It seems GW has abandoned their "Let's increase the price on everything to make everyone the same as Australia!" in favour of "Feth it! Just raise the price on everything!".

$70 for 5 models? That's more than the Vanguard box!!! Give me a God-damned break...

Yay for more leg poses on assault marines... Boo for 'balancing on stuff' poses and all of the jump chestplates still being Mk7.

I'm salivating at those 3rd Company Ultramarine transfer banners... I was expecting to pay an arm or a leg to have someone freehand that when I finally got around to it.

Soooo, it seems that the upgrade sprees are more make a special character sprues.

 SharkoutofWata wrote:
I'm salivating at those 3rd Company Ultramarine transfer banners... I was expecting to pay an arm or a leg to have someone freehand that when I finally got around to it.

Yeah, instead you can just pay an arm and a leg for the transfers...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yeah, they did that in the last Assault Marine box. It's nothing new. What is new is the price. +AUD$15 for no fething reason.

It seems GW has abandoned their "Let's increase the price on everything to make everyone the same as Australia!" in favour of "Feth it! Just raise the price on everything!".

$70 for 5 models? That's more than the Vanguard box!!! Give me a God-damned break...

I don't remember getting 10 full bodies in the last assault marine box. Also, that's weird on the price, vanguard are 50 here I thought compared to 41.5 for assault. O well, it's rough in the down under.

Loving these huge transfer sheets, can't wait till they come out with one for a army I want to play.

 Leth wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yeah, they did that in the last Assault Marine box. It's nothing new. What is new is the price. +AUD$15 for no fething reason.

It seems GW has abandoned their "Let's increase the price on everything to make everyone the same as Australia!" in favour of "Feth it! Just raise the price on everything!".

$70 for 5 models? That's more than the Vanguard box!!! Give me a God-damned break...

I don't remember getting 10 full bodies in the last assault marine box. Also, that's weird on the price, vanguard are 50 here I thought compared to 41.5 for assault. O well, it's rough in the down under.

Loving these huge transfer sheets, can't wait till they come out with one for a army I want to play.

The assault marine box came with part of the tactical marine sprue for regular bodies and power-packs.

 insaniak wrote:

 SharkoutofWata wrote:
I'm salivating at those 3rd Company Ultramarine transfer banners... I was expecting to pay an arm or a leg to have someone freehand that when I finally got around to it.

Yeah, instead you can just pay an arm and a leg for the transfers...

$20 for the transfers, $80 for professional painters (didn't do much searching). I'd say I'm only paying a finger. Like the pinky finger. No one NEEDS a pinky finger.

 SharkoutofWata wrote:
$20 for the transfers, $80 for professional painters (didn't do much searching). I'd say I'm only paying a finger. Like the pinky finger. No one NEEDS a pinky finger.

I know someone who begs to differ with your opinion

Hilarious that they give you a robed dark angel head without a robed body. That example model is so derpy with his hoody only

New Assault Marines are 1 USD more than Vanguard. I was expecting them to be $40 USD, the $1 is just a bit of annoying markup.

Assault Marines have had 10 full bodies since they got the current kit in 4th edition. The old sprue was 5 bodies with running legs, plus an upgrade sprue (that replaced the individual jump packs) with 5 jump packs and 5 torsos with jump pack straps 9front and back)

The nice thing about extra torso backs is that gives us thins to use on the new upgrade kits if desired.

Legs are awesome- looking at the pics, and bits of text on the side, the basing bits are not attached to the legs, but separate, so you can leave them off at will, or use them on other kits.

 Leth wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Yeah, they did that in the last Assault Marine box. It's nothing new. What is new is the price. +AUD$15 for no fething reason.

It seems GW has abandoned their "Let's increase the price on everything to make everyone the same as Australia!" in favour of "Feth it! Just raise the price on everything!".

$70 for 5 models? That's more than the Vanguard box!!! Give me a God-damned break...

I don't remember getting 10 full bodies in the last assault marine box. Also, that's weird on the price, vanguard are 50 here I thought compared to 41.5 for assault. O well, it's rough in the down under.

Loving these huge transfer sheets, can't wait till they come out with one for a army I want to play.

Yeah, me either. But it has been so many years since I bought ASM, and I've bought so much other stuff that I may misremember.

Here, I'm pretty sure the price went from $40 to $50 CAD, and in the US, $33 to $41. $8-$10 may sound like a lot, but the old sprues were really old. The new sprues will have a zillion times morearts. The old Dev squad was $35, so I can only guess it will go to about $43-44.

 Leth wrote:
I don't remember getting 10 full bodies in the last assault marine box.

 Talys wrote:
Yeah, me either.

That's great guys, but they did. Ehsteve even posted a picture of what came in the Assault Marine box. 10 full torsos. So y'all just gonna have'ta use your extensive powers of cognitive dissonance to find another reason why this new and improved price is justified.

 Young_Logan wrote:
As a space wolf player I don't really see the point in us getting an upgrade kit as pointed out by many others. Although it is nice to see that other than shoulder pads they don't seem to recycled sculpts which they could have so easily been

However that frost sword and all the bits that aren't shoulder pads will make me get it, just so I can convert up some 30k marines.

I agree with you, but from a modeling point of view it is great for using in own chapters or even to make chaos wolves, i really like that snarling head helmet.
Hope they will come with such sprues for other chapters, i think the white scars and the salamanders need some love

Yep, he posted it after our posts, we were mistaken

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
So y'all just gonna have'ta use your extensive powers of cognitive dissonance to find another reason why this new and improved price is justified.

There is a difference between believing that a price increase is justified, and believing that it is consistent and expected.

That said, compared to the old kit, it comes with an eviscerator, a thunder hammer, a flamer, 5 good sized basing bits, and an extra plasma pistol over what we had before. Probably fewer pouches/grenades, and no idea yet if there is a power fist and/or power axe included.

 SharkoutofWata wrote:
$20 for the transfers, $80 for professional painters (didn't do much searching). I'd say I'm only paying a finger. Like the pinky finger. No one NEEDS a pinky finger.

The banner and vehicle livery transfers are really neat, I'll admit, and the Ultramarine ones are generic enough that they'd make a good base for other chapters' iconogrophy. Having them be 'online only' stings a bit since I very rarely order GW direct.

 Talys wrote:
Hmm. I would like to know who plays their ultramarine command squad with:

1. A banner and a bolt gun
2. An apothecary
3. A dude with 2 swords!
4. A dude with 1 chainsword and... oh, that's it.
5. A dude with a bolter?

I mean... WIN!

Someone unfamiliar with the 40k rules, so Robin Cruddace.