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Of course, it will rather rankle when we get said Plague Aberration ($25 at the discounted Kickstarter price) in boardgame plastic and compare it to their painted resin version! Still really angry about that one.

But yes, the slightly modified Plague colour scheme is greatly preferable to the old, makes them look properly infected rather than...dayglo. I actually quite like the Veermyn yellow, but it's having difficulty showing the highlighting in photos.

Not seen this spectacularly pulpy bit of art before:

Well hello new screensaver...

I wonder if that means the Reb Swordmaster is going to make a return.

Last time we saw it was during the second opening of the original Deadzone's pledge manager, never to be seen again...

Wrath of kings plastic is not boardgame plastic, Biotic.

 Albertorius wrote:

skarsol wrote:
Comments on the KS seem to indicate the coupon code isn't working for a lot of people. I only backed for $1 so I doubt I'll get the rulebooks, so can someone who does check and see if the rules images posted on the update match what's in the PDF? Or did the changes scarletsquig said were made actually show up?

I backed for quite a bit more, but I have no code so far... checked the spam folder, too.

Backed for $200 here (not $1!), but in typical Mantic style, I've received no code or comms about it. Go, go Mantic!

The Piper's command ability does not specify that it costs a command die to use. And is just a more limited +1 Model anyway.

The beta copy of the rules and army lists is final in any case, so you can use that until the shiny .pdf arrives (I don't have my copy either).

Really interested in feedback on the Infestation book since that's the Deadzone RC's first major piece of writing (our main task with the main rules was cleaning a few things up and balancing the army lists properly). The exploration phase section at the back is my contribution there.

Rebel Sorak Swordspawn is still an option, covered by the weapon options for the Sorak, this is generally the case for all units that appear to be missing at first glance, they're either in there, or planned for an expansion or .pdf.

What extras do the enhanced Ebooks contain? Is it worth £5?

If it's like the others to date:

- Interactive Glossary – find rule definitions quickly
- Global Header Search – jump between locations as easily as flipping a page
- Living Rules – FAQs, Errata and Exclusives

- Original Print PDF in high definition
- EPUB and MOBI files for eReaders like Nook and Kindle

So possibly, if you think that you'll be using the digital versions on a tablet as much/more so than the physical book. But only the PDF versions are available right now anyway, so even if you upgrade you'll have to wait until the ebook versions are officially released for those.

 Azazelx wrote:


Backed for $200 here (not $1!), but in typical Mantic style, I've received no code or comms about it. Go, go Mantic!

I backed for more than a buck and have yet to receive anything either.

Me neither. Maybe we're on their black list? Or is it just Palladium who does that?

To think Palladium has a black list would give them credit for being organized . I wonder if they are doing a pledge level of distribution on the rules.

I don't have any link to the file from Mantic yet either.

The artist got the Sorak Swordspawn's anatomy wrong. They're supposed to have two large walking arms and two short arms, not one large arm and three short ones.

I don't know if I'm even getting a link, but even if I am, I don't have one yet!

Which is OK - I'm more interested in Firefight (and maybe Warpath), and I did get a link to download those (playtest) rules!

I think it's an odd perspective shot. The other Large arm is the one in the background holding.....something, and it is twisting over with it's chest facing up and the neck turned painfully. Due to distance they tried to make that other large hand look smaller, and so it looks like they have 3 small hands and one big one.

Did you guys get the Mantic Email: Next Level Gaming? or anything from mantic digital? $1 backers had access I thought? any $1 dollar backer that can confirm that they got the code

Maybe try the ticket system? If all else fails. They should be able to manually give out codes, as it seems to be a generated code.

@Theo, I'm in for LD what about you? Bob?

I'm hoping some of those super exlusive, Never to be seen in the wild Metals get a resculpt or whatever is holding them back.

$1 Deadzone backers don't get the pdf you needed to be at least $35 for the pdf. The Warpath KS did give $1 backers the rules as pdfs.

Pledge $1 or more
THANK YOU FOR BACKING!
This reward level is perfect if you just want to pledge for add-ons. * Shipping charged after campaign ends (see Shipping section for full details)

Pledge $35 or more

OUTBREAK
Get the new Hardback Deadzone Core Rulebook, the Alien Planet Gaming Mat, and a digital copies of the Deadzone Rulebook and Infestation Mission Pack. Shipping charged after campaign ends (see Shipping section for full details)

That said if you backed at $1 and upped in the PM you will probably need to chase it up with Mantic digital much like happened with KoW as they still identify you as a $1 backer.

Backers of the original DZ should get the pdfs as well. Not sure what order they are sending them in. I got mine as a Lockdown level backer they might be doing them in waves by pledge level?

Might be done in waves to stop server crashes.

I found mine hidden in my junk mail folder on Outlook/hotmail/whatever-they-call-it-now. If that's any help

I was in at $1 but heavily pledged into the original, and no email for me as yet.

~Eric

Eh, I pledged a fair amount for both and haven't received anything yet either.

I'm guessing it'll come in batches like someone already mentioned.

I look forward to getting the Swordmaster Sorak as I missed him the first time. Makes me wonder if it'll even be the same sculpt...

 NobodyXY wrote:
@Theo, I'm in for LD what about you? Bob?

I went in for the $1, then got dicked around with my KOW2 stuff and then got the dungeon Saga stuff with the abysmal editing problems aafter this closed (i think). I had requested a refund for the $1 IF they didn't fix my KOW2 problems in a quick pace. Two months of no communications, but I finally got my KOW2 situated thanks to Rich going on vacation and Chris (I believe was his name) fixing my order. A few weeks later I got the refund (which was requested IF they didn't fix my pledge, and a note from Rich saying hey look i did something for you . I chased it up with another email saying that I wanted to get the refund only IF they didn't get my KOW2 pledge to me, not only that but the timing of when I requested the refund was within the 30 day 100% refund period, but since they took 2 months they only gave 90cents back (kickstarter fees). I know it's only a dime, but at that point I was already insulted and frustrated, so I shot them another email saying I wanted either the 10 cents back or to charge me the 90 cents again and put me back in for the $1 pledge. I got the 10 cents back later . Guess you know why I really love their customer service skills now.

I really don't know any of them, but I'm still watching to see if any changes happen inside of Mantic with the addition of the new blood they hired. So far all I've read here and on their forums is that people are still waiting on KOW2 stuff, Dungeon Saga stuff, a few still waiting on Dreadball extreme material and all the responses are just more of the form letter responses saying please wait longer.....were in deeper than we thought.

 Theophony wrote:

 NobodyXY wrote:
@Theo, I'm in for LD what about you? Bob?

I went in for the $1, then got dicked around with my KOW2 stuff and then got the dungeon Saga stuff with the abysmal editing problems aafter this closed (i think). I had requested a refund for the $1 IF they didn't fix my KOW2 problems in a quick pace. Two months of no communications, but I finally got my KOW2 situated thanks to Rich going on vacation and Chris (I believe was his name) fixing my order. A few weeks later I got the refund (which was requested IF they didn't fix my pledge, and a note from Rich saying hey look i did something for you . I chased it up with another email saying that I wanted to get the refund only IF they didn't get my KOW2 pledge to me, not only that but the timing of when I requested the refund was within the 30 day 100% refund period, but since they took 2 months they only gave 90cents back (kickstarter fees). I know it's only a dime, but at that point I was already insulted and frustrated, so I shot them another email saying I wanted either the 10 cents back or to charge me the 90 cents again and put me back in for the $1 pledge. I got the 10 cents back later . Guess you know why I really love their customer service skills now.

I really don't know any of them, but I'm still watching to see if any changes happen inside of Mantic with the addition of the new blood they hired. So far all I've read here and on their forums is that people are still waiting on KOW2 stuff, Dungeon Saga stuff, a few still waiting on Dreadball extreme material and all the responses are just more of the form letter responses saying please wait longer.....were in deeper than we thought.

Unless you consider 2 months "in a quick pace" it sounds like you got exactly what you asked for. I am actually surprised they bothered to refund 10 cents I can imagine many companies wouldn't and it sounds like they spent far more time on you than one dollar really justified.

@Theo

I'm going to assume you didn't get a PDF. I missed what DaveC posted from the KS. I can't believe you asked them for the fees KS takes.
A lot of what your writing is angry, and vague. That's just a bad mix. I want to hear your side but it needs less face palming and more calm description.
I'm not saying you shouldn't be mad, but it does colour my perception of the situation slightly.


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KOW2 has a another shipment doesn't it? I feel like we haven't seen the nyaids or whatever released yet?

Naiads were sent out. Mine have been sittin in the game room with my Abyssals for a while now. Everything for KoW should be sent by now.

@Nostro oh okay thanks, I thought retail was generally a little before KS shipments or slightly after, but I haven't seen more than a small picture of them. I might have missed it.

 Theophony wrote:
I think it's an odd perspective shot. The other Large arm is the one in the background holding.....something, and it is twisting over with it's chest facing up and the neck turned painfully. Due to distance they tried to make that other large hand look smaller, and so it looks like they have 3 small hands and one big one.

You're right. I got confused by the two upper arms - they cross over each other around the elbow, and I mixed up which was which, which threw off the spatial depth.

So as you say, it's just a case of foreshortening the arm. Carry on.

 NobodyXY wrote:
@Theo

I'm going to assume you didn't get a PDF. I missed what DaveC posted from the KS. I can't believe you asked them for the fees KS takes.
A lot of what your writing is angry, and vague. That's just a bad mix. I want to hear your side but it needs less face palming and more calm description.
I'm not saying you shouldn't be mad, but it does colour my perception of the situation slightly.


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KOW2 has a another shipment doesn't it? I feel like we haven't seen the nyaids or whatever released yet?

Sorry, was in a rush when I typed it out, and it gets my ire up too.

Oct 13th, 2015, I messaged rich (seperate from my KOW2 issues) saying I want a refund on my pledge.
Nov 5th, 2015, Rich messages back saying he wants my information to refund the total less the Kickstarter fees.
I replied within 4 hours (I was at work) still Nov 5th, 2015. Never mind Rich, keep me in because of the free PDF.
Dec 18th, 2015, I get the refund for the $0.90
Dec 18th, 2015, I reply back asking if they bothered to read my response that I did not want to be dropped.
Jan 12th, 2016, Chris (who has been great getting me my KOW2 pledge) replied and said that he would get me placed back on the list to receive the rules and wouldn't worry about the $1.

I'll try shooting Chris a message tomorrow for him to see on Monday.

The bigger issue I have with Mantic is really Rich. During the KOW2 KS he was always present and answering questions. Afterwards he disappears, and when issues arose during fulfillment he started blaming the supporters and calling people "liars" (wasn't directed at me, but poor CS skills). Turns out all those liars were people who's pledges disappeared (not lost, they hate it when we say they lost the pledge) because of their computer program. Also Rich promised me he mailed my package out the day before he announced he was leaving on vacation the next day. That package never arrived, but the first day of his vacation Chris messaged me saying he had my package in hand and would mailing out in the next hour. Chris' package arrived with his signature on it in a week. I know everything cannot be laid on Richs feet, but he is the public face of the CS department, and mine wasn't the only promise he made and did not follow up on.

Call me a troll if you want, but until I see different from Mantic, I'll voice my poor service story any chance I get.

@Theo

Thanks for taking the time to write that, I just want to say that I don't think your a troll first and foremost. The time between sending a message and getting a response is pretty bad, personally I wouldn't have been so patient!

I'd try the ticket system if your willing, share your post (I'd almost say copy/paste) in the ticket system. By all means keep sharing your experience. It's good for companies to be held accountable. Forums and the like are a good avenue for customer satisfaction that might not happen otherwise.
At the very least having an open ticket for any issues make them hard to forget/ ignore.

I recently bought two Wrath of Kings starter sets (thanks miniature market sale!) - the plastic is phenomenal, like an order of magnitude cleaner and crisper than Privateer Press and older Mantic PVC. Is this the stuff that the new Deadzone & Warpath plastic will be in?

Also, any word on shipping?