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Gah....

"The character is voice acted, no more female characters because it's hard to have all the dialog recorded!"

Choose your own Laser Color; the Trilogy would like to say high.

Something weird. Bethesda's official blog is inaccessible right now. It just forwards you to that trailer. Which is disappointing as I thought that they would have had a post regarding this. Hmn, wonder if Obsidian have said anything...

Skyrim is a great game. I prefer it without expansions or mods.

 Sigvatr wrote:

 Alex C wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
I sure hope it gets better than Skyrim. Skyrim, without mods, is not a good game. Far from it. It only became as good as it got because of its outstanding mod community.

Weird that my wife and I had it on Xbox 360 from day 1 and still enjoy the hell out of it then.

I must stop enjoying it now! The internet has spoken!

Where did it say that you cannot enjoy it?

Ok Mr. Technicalities, I think there's nothing wrong with the standard game and that it is very good. Thanks for informing me that I am wrong though, and that the game is bad. Can I get my money back?

Better tell all those people who gave it glowing reviews upon release that they are wrong too.

Fact is, it received near universal praise upon release so to categorically state that it is bad without mods as some sort of fact is just false.

 Alex C wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:

 Alex C wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
I sure hope it gets better than Skyrim. Skyrim, without mods, is not a good game. Far from it. It only became as good as it got because of its outstanding mod community.

Weird that my wife and I had it on Xbox 360 from day 1 and still enjoy the hell out of it then.

I must stop enjoying it now! The internet has spoken!

Where did it say that you cannot enjoy it?

Ok Mr. Technicalities, I think there's nothing wrong with the standard game and that it is very good. Thanks for informing me that I am wrong though, and that the game is bad. Can I get my money back?

Better tell all those people who gave it glowing reviews upon release that they are wrong too.

Fact is, it received near universal praise upon release so to categorically state that it is bad without mods as some sort of fact is just false.

Not good =/= bad. I played Skyrim on console at first, did one quick play through and never touched it again. Then I got a new pc and the pc version, added some mods and played over 150 hours in the next month or two.

You seem to have this urge to take any criticism to mean the game is terrible and you should feel bad for having it. Games are never perfect, this doesn't mean they aren't enjoyable. And someones opinion shouldn't affect your enjoyment of it either.

Wow, fething asanine sentence police here.

Sorry, just hoped to see some exciting speculation about the game after the trailer dropped and instead I just keep seeing people saying how gak it is. That affects my enjoyment of this thread.

First thing I checked when I got home from work, it's looking good, although I'm probably going to steer away from a lot of rumors to not spoil anything.

Also I saw an eyebot. Will it be the return of E-DE!?! <excited beeping>


Edit: and assuming obsidian gets to make a sequel to new vegas, I really hope they give them the usual 2 or so years of dev time, instead of the 13 months they got for new vegas. I mean, if they can make a game that good in 13 months, imagine what they could do in two years.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
First thing I checked when I got home from work, it's looking good, although I'm probably going to steer away from a lot of rumors to not spoil anything.

Also I saw an eyebot. Will it be the return of E-DE!?! <excited beeping>


Edit: and assuming obsidian gets to make a sequel to new vegas, I really hope they give them the usual 2 or so years of dev time, instead of the 13 months they got for new vegas. I mean, if they can make a game that good in 13 months, imagine what they could do in two years.

Importantly Obsidian may ask for more time this time around due to know how much Bethesda screwed them over the first time. However they also showed that they could produce a great game in such a short timeframe, so even though they'd love to have the time, Bethesda's money handlers will probably not give it to them.

But damn do I want I sequel to New Vegas...

Anyhow, as it seems related to this thread, here's the Diamond City Guard that I made based on the trailer. I'll keep the rest of my modelling guff to its own thread instead of spamming this place however (if people are interested its not like the massive letters under every one of my posts doesn't make it obvious...).

Be sure to send a pic into Bethesda. They may post it on their blog.

 Manchu wrote:
Be sure to send a pic into Bethesda. They may post it on their blog.

Hey send me their PR email and I may just do that...

There whole informal blog been taken over by that trailer however, so I can't even get on that thing to check their contact details. :(

Once things calm down, and they can have the section "Contact us" up and running, that will be the time to send pics in

 shasolenzabi wrote:
Once things calm down, and they can have the section "Contact us" up and running, that will be the time to send pics in

I'm actually sitting on the way back machine right now seeing if that'd help. But its a on site form you fill out rather than a direct email address unfortunately, and I'm not sure if a page from months ago would really be the best way of contacting them.

 Alex C wrote:


Ok Mr. Technicalities, I think there's nothing wrong with the standard game and that it is very good. Thanks for informing me that I am wrong though, and that the game is bad. Can I get my money back?

Better tell all those people who gave it glowing reviews upon release that they are wrong too.

Fact is, it received near universal praise upon release so to categorically state that it is bad without mods as some sort of fact is just false.

I have no idea why you get so upset. You way overreact on an emotional level...calm down.

Skyrim has no story. It is terribly balanced. The combat system is trash and more shallow than Twilight's plot. Exploration gets dull soon when you find the same stuff anywhere you go. The crafting system is dull beyond belief (forge 2000 Iron Daggers...). AI. The overworld is dead. Civil war? Where? Most quests are extremely forgettable, DLC somehow helped in that regard. Level scaling. Terrible PC UI. A few more smaller things.

Skyrim is overrated. What really made Skyrim that extremely awesome game are all the outstanding modders.

Exploration in Skyrim does not "get dull soon." Perhaps it is just not the right game for you.

 Manchu wrote:
Exploration in Skyrim does not "get dull soon." Perhaps it is just not the right game for you.

Really? I found nothing interesting exploring Skyrim except hardship (mountains, icy lakes, wolves). Every few minutes I was under attack by some animal. There was nothing interestng out there.

In contrast to Oblivion where exploring found towns that had odd things going on, random taverns with awesome quests and stuff that was just there.

Everything in skyrim was bare and samey and if anything annoying to travel anywhere.

I can't think of anything I found exploring except a jester. Everything else was kind of scripted to be there when i explored.

I agree that Skyrim sucked hugely for me too.

 Manchu wrote:
Exploration in Skyrim does not "get dull soon." Perhaps it is just not the right game for you.

I disagree with that immensely, I love open world games, and I love RPGs, but to me skyrim was a vast ocean with the depth of a kiddie pool. Sure, the map was pretty big, but a lot of the areas were very samey, and the wilderness was incredibly... empty. Having played the witcher 3 has shown me that wilderness DOESN'T need to be empty. Sure, there were boring, empty places, but there was also plenty of random locations, and mini dungeons to explore. Not to mention the treasure hunts for various bits of gear. Plus, having combat I enjoyed made it even better (vs skyrim's combat, which was some of the worst swordplay I've ever experienced in an others decent game).

Now, with mods obviously, skyrim does get much better, but even then it wasn't enough to warrant much more playing.

"Let's go, Pal."


.... Goosebump mode engaged.

I love me some Dogmeat. Favorite companion in any videogame, ever.


Been a fallout fan for years (i use Bloody Mess as my avatar on every forum i'm on), super stoked for this.

 Swastakowey wrote:
Really? I found nothing interesting exploring Skyrim except hardship (mountains, icy lakes, wolves). Every few minutes I was under attack by some animal. There was nothing interestng out there.

Precisely. Enter a dungeon on the far east side of the map, same enemies, same loot, same environment as another dungeon on the far west side of the map.

W3 feels empty to me in comparison to Skyrim. There's just a lot of (admittedly pretty) nothing to ride through to the next cutscene or mission destination. W3 is very cool but it is not an exploration game. With Skyrim, I found lots of interesting things around like the Lady in the Lake remains or the carcas of the giant mud crab.

 Manchu wrote:
W3 feels empty to me in comparison to Skyrim. There's just a lot of (admittedly pretty) nothing to ride through to the next cutscene or mission destination. W3 is very cool but it is not an exploration game. With Skyrim, I found lots of interesting things around like the Lady in the Lake remains or the carcas of the giant mud crab.

Agreed. I've got over 1000 hours in the 360 version of Skyrim. I explored the ever living hell out of that game, and never got tired of it. Even with all that time, I know there are area's I've still never seen.


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In regards to this game, I like what I've seen so far. Makes me excited for it.

 Wyrmalla wrote:

 Manchu wrote:
Be sure to send a pic into Bethesda. They may post it on their blog.

Hey send me their PR email and I may just do that...

There whole informal blog been taken over by that trailer however, so I can't even get on that thing to check their contact details. :(

That's funny, I had no trouble getting to it. Just move your cursor to the top right corner and click on the bethblog link.

This might help as well.
http://www.bethblog.com/2015/06/03/fallout-4-officially-announced/#more-29795


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On a side note, I like that it is more colorful, nukes don't destroy most of the visible light spectrum you know!

I really appreciate it being brighter. The weird green tint in Fallout 3 was really annoying and the game looked a lot better if you removed it.

Master Race, rejoice o/

In all seriousness, though, I do hope they are aware of the mod's community's importance for their games and don't pull off crap like paid mod support or something. Fingers crossed.

 Haight wrote:
"Let's go, Pal."


.... Goosebump mode engaged.

I love me some Dogmeat. Favorite companion in any videogame, ever.


Been a fallout fan for years (i use Bloody Mess as my avatar on every forum i'm on), super stoked for this.

maybe the dog is the real protagonist.
Fallout: A boy and his dog.

Fall out 3 loved the world and the story, the game play, the interesting side stories, the huge easteregg stuff.

Hated the buggy engine, problems with added content messing with the main story and the crashes did i mention the crashes?

Would be nice if this time the setting is a different country
(oh it is Boston)

I'm officially okay with the graphics. Does it look like it could be better? Yeah. Yeah it does. But more than likely it'll be a very large open world to explore with numerous stories, puzzles and characters. So I'm not really judging based on graphics alone, but more or less what I get out of it which will probably be many many hours of play.

To be frank, I'm just happy it's not quite as grey and brown as FO3. I see actual color here. I have to admit though, I do hope we'll see some new monsters and some deeper storytelling, maybe some really flawed characters.

Most importantly though, my dog is still alive.

Having yet to play fallout 3 (I'm starting tomorrow), how do we know it's the same dog?

Its not the same dog.

One its an entirely different breed, and two well what kind of dog walks all the way from DC to Boston? That and my assumption at the moment is that the whole game's set before 3 (you're either that pre-war guy or his child, hmn, or an Android...), so ah, hmn. =P

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Having yet to play fallout 3 (I'm starting tomorrow), how do we know it's the same dog?

Its not the same dog.

Also, I was thinking, perhaps the garage with the PA is some sort of player-owned building, not dissimilar to the lucky 38 suite in FO:NV?

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Also, I was thinking, perhaps the garage with the PA is some sort of player-owned building, not dissimilar to the lucky 38 suite in FO:NV?

Likely to be the case.