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 thenoobbomb wrote:

Well, only one of the two

Spoiler:

creates androids that kill people in the middle of the night to replace them

So, the institute is bad because it does it retail, and the BoS is good because they do it wholesale?

Remember, the faction that's back in charge is the one that murders whole towns to get technology they want and

Look at all this! We should take as much of this as we can carry.

-Preston Garvey, volunteering himself for Pack Mule duties.

I had just stepped out of my PA to build some stuff at one of my settlements when something attacked and one of the settlers STOLE MY GOD DAMN ARMOUR!

How the hell do I get him out of it?

 SilverMK2 wrote:
I had just stepped out of my PA to build some stuff at one of my settlements when something attacked and one of the settlers STOLE MY GOD DAMN ARMOUR!

How the hell do I get him out of it?

Can you trade with them and yoink the fusion core?

That's theoretical. Never had that happen.

I think you can order them out of the armour in Workshop mode.

It was Jake Finch; I can order him to do stuff in workshop mode but not to get out of the suit (even ordering him to use things that he can't do in armour does not cause him to jump out). Since I just rescued him from the Forged, all he will say is "thanks for rescuing me!" (yeah, thanks for stealing my armour you jerk! ) so I can't trade with him.

Ah well, I had not pimped it out at all, but it was the best of the stuff I had at the time

I will revisit the settlement at some point in the future and see if he has jumped out (to go to bed for example )

Try pick-pocketing the fusion core. That should eject them.

Eh, it's just a frame. You can always trade the armour pieces off him and put them on another frame. There's several of them lying about in the game. Fun as it is to build Iron Man style garages of power armour, the reality is you only ever need one suit.

Your companion should always wear a spare frame. It doesn't cost a core to run and provides them with a few benefits (such as increased carrying capacity).

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:

 Cheesecat wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
Just realized...does it, at any point, explain why power armor suddenly runs on an extremely short-lived battery?

Probably not, it's quite possible that it's a pure game play idea rather than anything to do with the lore.

From a gamepla point of view, it makes no sense. Fusion cores are more than plentiful and you rather have too many than ever finding yourself in need of them. Why then introduce such a system? Also kinda breaks with FO lore. Not liking the kind of power creep going on. Power Armor feels "too early". To me, t's alwas been some kind of major scalig point, i.e. get Power Armor and you know you just started kicking major ass.

Yeah, I think they wanted to make PA more available to appeal to the masses, but they then realized how OP it would be.
So they decided to break lore by incorporating such a tedious mechanic.
And then they realized that it made PA useless, so they just spammed cores everywhere

They should have given different suits of armor different energy uses.
Lore wise, T45 was supposed to be very energy inefficient, as opposed to the T51 which had a battery pack that could last a millenia.

Also, why is there not a .223? Such a weapon would have been perfect considering the game's story, as the .223 pistol is based off of the gun from Blade Runner, and the Synths are basically Androids.

Alright you guys win, I was wrong.

Starting to get the hang of this game. I was ready to put it to rest last week but this weekend I've put in a good chunk of hours into it. Its like Morrowind for me all over again: start of confused and overwhelmed then transition to being curious and excited.

 Cheesecat wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:

 Cheesecat wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
Just realized...does it, at any point, explain why power armor suddenly runs on an extremely short-lived battery?

Probably not, it's quite possible that it's a pure game play idea rather than anything to do with the lore.

From a gamepla point of view, it makes no sense. Fusion cores are more than plentiful and you rather have too many than ever finding yourself in need of them. Why then introduce such a system? Also kinda breaks with FO lore. Not liking the kind of power creep going on. Power Armor feels "too early". To me, t's alwas been some kind of major scalig point, i.e. get Power Armor and you know you just started kicking major ass.

Yeah, I think they wanted to make PA more available to appeal to the masses, but they then realized how OP it would be.
So they decided to break lore by incorporating such a tedious mechanic.
And then they realized that it made PA useless, so they just spammed cores everywhere

They should have given different suits of armor different energy uses.
Lore wise, T45 was supposed to be very energy inefficient, as opposed to the T51 which had a battery pack that could last a millenia.

Also, why is there not a .223? Such a weapon would have been perfect considering the game's story, as the .223 pistol is based off of the gun from Blade Runner, and the Synths are basically Androids.

Alright you guys win, I was wrong.

But the 'spamming' of fusion cores DOES have a reason that is unconnected with power armour. They are the ammo for the laser Gatling gun. That is why I am stockpiling them at Sanctuary. I want to finish the game strolling around in top of the range power armour toting one of those bad boys being able to take down anything in the game. Then I'm going to kick the BoS, Institute, and RR in the nuts and help the Minutemen unify the commonwealth!

Helping people for no reward rocks! [Also, re-doing those repeatable missions is great fun and allows me to collect a shedload of adhesive and some good comics. Last Saturday I got a new Grognak in that shipping company. I had already cleared it a couple of hours before and taken everything it had. Got a mission to clear out the ghouls from it. It cost me 3 rounds from my combat rifle to retire the 3 ghouls that were there, I found more ammo than I spent, more duct tape and wonderglue, and a new issue of Grognak. How is that not a win for 5 minutes work?]

The repeatable missions are mostly there to farm for XP, seeing as there's no level cap and well, there aren't a lot of quests per faction to begin with.

 Conrad Turner wrote:

 Cheesecat wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:

 Cheesecat wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
Just realized...does it, at any point, explain why power armor suddenly runs on an extremely short-lived battery?

Probably not, it's quite possible that it's a pure game play idea rather than anything to do with the lore.

From a gamepla point of view, it makes no sense. Fusion cores are more than plentiful and you rather have too many than ever finding yourself in need of them. Why then introduce such a system? Also kinda breaks with FO lore. Not liking the kind of power creep going on. Power Armor feels "too early". To me, t's alwas been some kind of major scalig point, i.e. get Power Armor and you know you just started kicking major ass.

Yeah, I think they wanted to make PA more available to appeal to the masses, but they then realized how OP it would be.
So they decided to break lore by incorporating such a tedious mechanic.
And then they realized that it made PA useless, so they just spammed cores everywhere

They should have given different suits of armor different energy uses.
Lore wise, T45 was supposed to be very energy inefficient, as opposed to the T51 which had a battery pack that could last a millenia.

Also, why is there not a .223? Such a weapon would have been perfect considering the game's story, as the .223 pistol is based off of the gun from Blade Runner, and the Synths are basically Androids.

Alright you guys win, I was wrong.

But the 'spamming' of fusion cores DOES have a reason that is unconnected with power armour. They are the ammo for the laser Gatling gun. That is why I am stockpiling them at Sanctuary. I want to finish the game strolling around in top of the range power armour toting one of those bad boys being able to take down anything in the game. Then I'm going to kick the BoS, Institute, and RR in the nuts and help the Minutemen unify the commonwealth!

Helping people for no reward rocks! [Also, re-doing those repeatable missions is great fun and allows me to collect a shedload of adhesive and some good comics. Last Saturday I got a new Grognak in that shipping company. I had already cleared it a couple of hours before and taken everything it had. Got a mission to clear out the ghouls from it. It cost me 3 rounds from my combat rifle to retire the 3 ghouls that were there, I found more ammo than I spent, more duct tape and wonderglue, and a new issue of Grognak. How is that not a win for 5 minutes work?]

Which doesn't make sense, as the Gatling laser is supposed to use either Microfusion cells or ECP.
Making a new ammo type that's also needed to power PA is an odd design decision.

I swear, when I thought I couldn't love Curie even more



She even knows Japanese (I love it how the Protectron's single line "Nan-ni shimasho-ka?" has typos )

Ooh, if you like her now, you'll love that..

So, I decided to side with the Institute, and tell the BOS to go eff themselves. Then I get handed a quest today that sounds like I'm going to have to pick between the Institute and the Minute Men. I'm not liking that one...

The minutemen don't care who you side with, so if you side with the institute you can do all of their quests, and still do all of the minutemen ones.

Meanwhile, I sided with the Brotherhood.

 thenoobbomb wrote:
Meanwhile, I sided with the Brotherhood.

My next run through, I'm going to do a melee specialist who goes with them.

I went to the Railroad for help building the teleporter, and I did the undercover quest with the holotape where you make contact with their operative. That hasn't locked me permanently into the Railroad has it? I want to side with the Minutemen in the long run, not the Railroad.

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
I went to the Railroad for help building the teleporter, and I did the undercover quest with the holotape where you make contact with their operative. That hasn't locked me permanently into the Railroad has it? I want to side with the Minutemen in the long run, not the Railroad.

I don't think the Minutemen are one of the vital story line factions. It seems to me its just RR, Institute, or BoS.

Screw the RR guys though. Everytime.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Ooh, if you like her now, you'll love that..

Spoiler:

you can transfer her into a Sexy Synth Bodytm.

Yeah, I've only discovered this today after finding a very ... uh ... I'm gonna call it "artistic" image of her Probably the best way to be spoilered about something.

When I built the teleporter on my first playthrough, I did it with the minutemen. Sturgis wanted me to download a tape with institute data, and when I gave it to him he was just like "thanks" and that was the last anyone in the minutemen had anything to do with the whole institute quest line. It felt like the devs just forgot to finish it or something.

 Necros wrote:
When I built the teleporter on my first playthrough, I did it with the minutemen. Sturgis wanted me to download a tape with institute data, and when I gave it to him he was just like "thanks" and that was the last anyone in the minutemen had anything to do with the whole institute quest line. It felt like the devs just forgot to finish it or something.

The Institute handed me a quest that said I had to go "take" someone to join the Institute, that the Minutemen were protecting. I haven't done that yet, so not sure what to expect.

How do you join the Institute and do quests for them, at what point does that come in the game?

I like the idea of being a crazy scientist..

You'll know it when it happens and to me it's less crazy scientist, more the only sane faction that just wants to do what is right for mankind, even if that means abducting people and replacing them with synths.

From what I've read online (I haven't gotten so far in the game, and I wanted to know how to join the Institute... so that I'd at least know what to look for when I decided to stick with BoS on this play through), you have to be very near the end of the "main" story line, around the second to last mission or something.

Yeah, you're not locked in until the very end and if a mission makes you hostile to another faction it will say so in the quest description.

The last Quest of the Brotherhood gives you a pop-up saying the Institute will go hostile towards when you get into the Vertibird. RR will go hostile after you get the order to Problem tho... I still had a quest to finish with Tinker Tom... He's as dead as can be now.