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Says the man with a Blood Elf avatar?

(Apologies if that isn't what that is!)

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
Wow i never would have thought that the SJW's would have reached dakkadakka in droves. I never seen this outrage on Brother Vinnie's, Raging heroes stuff or Hasslefree miniatures.

Now i will certainly have to get them just to see SJW's foaming at the gaming table.

I wonder those that are the biggest opponents are the ones that throw money at the pole dancers?

What is everyone's problem with single Jewish females?

Thanks !

Saves me having to ask what SJW is..

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
Wow i never would have thought that the SJW's would have reached dakkadakka in droves. I never seen this outrage on Brother Vinnie's, Raging heroes stuff or Hasslefree miniatures.

Now i will certainly have to get them just to see SJW's foaming at the gaming table.

I'm one of the biggest anti-SJW types you'll find at this place (there's no 'justice' in what those lunatics cry out for, they are nothing but racist, sexist, misandrist, left-wing authoritarians who desire nothing more than to stifle any form of expression that doesn't fit within their narrow world-view, but I digress...), but come. The. feth. On.

These minis are atrocious (for the most part, I actually like the not-Dread, reminds me of Tiamat, and some of the bikes are cool), but these are just silly minis. People in full not-Terminator armour except for their front's missing to show off a bikini? You don't have to be a white-male-hating-twitter-shaming-SJW to see that that's the very definition of gratuitous.

Why is this thread labelled "Space Crusade" when the box art says "Space Crusaders?"

Did I miss something in the 14 pages I didn't really read?

Nuwisha wrote:
Why is this thread labelled "Space Crusade" when the box art says "Space Crusaders?"

Did I miss something in the 14 pages I didn't really read?

Game is Space Crusade, one faction are the Space Crusaders.

Thanks! I guess we never figured out why they only have armor on the parts of their bodies that don't contain vital organs, eh?

Those miniatures are butt-ugly. I know nice tits can upgrade of almost anything for some guys but seriously, this is 2016!
If I want to look at queer, badly sculpted sexualized miniatures, I go to Excalibur Miniatures, thank you very much.

(And no, I don't.)

The nurgle mama is cool, however.

 Pacific wrote:
Says the man with a Blood Elf avatar?

(Apologies if that isn't what that is!)

In technical terms it's a High Elf, so no, it isn't!

Also still not a man, dammit! (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
they are nothing but racist, sexist, misandrist, left-wing authoritarians who desire nothing more than to stifle any form of expression that doesn't fit within their narrow world-view

There is a very deep irony in this. Specifically, do you usually get offended when others get offended?

Actually, don't answer that. I can feel the judging eyes watching this topic closely, waiting to strike.

 Ashiraya wrote:
There is a very deep irony in this.

Well, yes, 'cause horseshoe theory is a thing.

[EDIT]: Ah, you're weren't actually making a point. You were just attacking me. Well done.

 rayphoton wrote:
I like these miniatures and if I played 40k....I might even buy some to mix in to a Army to make it different looking. But all I play and buy is bloodbowl stuff so I wont.

I'm all about defending them and fighting the fight and etc etc blah blah blah ....

However..

Even I found it funny that not only do they have under boob...they ALSO have a boob window. Thats dedication to the cause.

Second. Painting the skin a glossy black like its a undersuit sounds like a really good idea and would look cool I think.


Excuse my super quick photo shopping

That looks great. It would still bother me that the top half of the armour is not connected to the greaves.
I'd have to sculpt armour lips on the hips to show that 'dem thighs' are actually armour plates and tubetool up some armoured cables to connect and support the 'breastplate'- which could use an under layer to cover the rest of the vitals.

At that point though it would feel like i'd been sculpting too much.
If Prodos can provide me with re-sculpts that make sense as power-armoured sexy girls rather than 'sexy marine' halloween costumes, I'll definitely pick some up.

For the record I am 100% on board with sexy, tits out, cheesecake daemonettes. A good succubus knows that on the battlefield you don't have time to slowly seduce that guardsman, you'll be at full sprint/dance speed when you break from cover and if you're not jiggling hard enough you'll be eating high energy lasbolts.

 Jehan-reznor wrote:

 rayphoton wrote:
everyone ignored my picture in favor of internet fighting....I'm the sad....:(

I like it you could also paint in armour color

You mean.....paint the armor? or add armor? or paint the black red instead? further expound on your request and I'll see what I can do

 =Angel= wrote:

For the record I am 100% on board with sexy, tits out, cheesecake daemonettes. A good succubus knows that on the battlefield you don't have time to slowly seduce that guardsman, you'll be at full sprint/dance speed when you break from cover and if you're not jiggling hard enough you'll be eating high energy lasbolts.

Oh dear lord thank you , that made my night

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
There is a very deep irony in this.

Well, yes, 'cause horseshoe theory is a thing.

[EDIT]: Ah, you're weren't actually making a point. You were just attacking me. Well done.

Assuming you want to interpret me pointing out that those you accuse of various things are actually not so bad as an 'attack', then I guess you can conclude that I did both.

But yeah, see my next post.

 Pacific wrote:
Thanks !

Saves me having to ask what SJW is..

"Social justice warrior."

In essence....well, you know how the Internet attracts people who want to win arguments without the bother of actually arguing? And how they'll use bad logic and rhetoric to try and shut the opponent down as quickly as possible? The stereotypical SJW does that, just using accusations of sexism, racism and other forms of bigotry to give their arguments a veneer of unassailable righteousness; if you disagree with them, you're not just disagreeing with them or even wrong, you're a terrible person who needs to be shamed.

In short, they're people who don't get that no matter how righteous the cause is, you can still argue it badly. And communities where they are dominant can start to feel stifled in a different but comparable way to ones where sexist or homophobic jokes are routinely thrown around.

Of course, some people who actually are bigoted or painfully insensitive to the feelings of others, and who hide behind "Hey, I'm not politically correct!" like to turn SJW's into a grand left-wing conspiracy dedicated to stifling freedom of speech. Any expression of distaste or offence, no matter how unsavoury the thing you're reacting to actually is, makes you into a dirty SJW who can't take a joke, can't stand the sight of a woman's body, etc.

Guys, please, let's take that entire realm of who is and who isn't a SJW elsewhere? In order to save yourselves from the Wrath of Mod, if nothing else.

I simply don't understand why it would be important to protect your shoulders and legs, but not your internal organs and ribcage. You can live without one of those things, and it's not the one with total lack of armor.

Poor show, Prodos. You had a chance to do something cool, inventive and alternative, and you decided to go for "easy" market of T&A.
Then seemingly neglecting to hire anyone who understood how physics functions around heavy sacks of flesh.
Except the not-Nurgle seems to be flopping around realistically, so I have no idea why all the not-sisters have helium tits rather than the pleasant curve of a weighted breast going on.

I think that's what is sparking so much annoyance with everyone. Prodos came really close to making badass female power armored troops. The basic ideas behind the sculpts are very nice. But then they decided to go full cheesecake and ruin what could have been something very nice.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
I have no idea why all the not-sisters have helium tits rather than the pleasant curve of a weighted breast going on.

It because Prodos is going for a sexy look. They said it themselves. Obviously weird thighs, hips, pelvis and helium tits are part of that. (On the Space Crusaders - Not demons have more realistic pillows).




(Wondering how this can now be construed as a SJW comment)




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 TheCustomLime wrote:
I think that's what is sparking so much annoyance with everyone. Prodos came really close to making badass female power armored troops. The basic ideas behind the sculpts are very nice. But then they decided to go full cheesecake and ruin what could have been something very nice.

These aren't so much cheesecake as rancid cottage cheese.

I hope they sell enough of the demons though to ensure KS pldeges from way back are fulfilled in their entirety.

This game is magnificent, in the absurd, shameless, laughable kind of magnificent. I actually really like that Nurgul (Or, sorry, "generic plague demon") creature, but the rest is just brilliantly cringe worthy. Loving it.

The more I see of sci-fi women who go into battle with no clothes on, the more I appreciate that I can get a girlfriend, and that I know real women.

I just can't say anything more than that.

 NoPoet wrote:
The more I see of sci-fi women who go into battle with no clothes on, the more I appreciate that I can get a girlfriend, and that I know real women.

To be fair, you have to assume that they're trained in fighitng with their bodies displayed, but shoulders/legs heavily armoured.

I mean, you'd hope they were...

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

Then seemingly neglecting to hire anyone who understood how physics functions around heavy sacks of flesh.
Except the not-Nurgle seems to be flopping around realistically, so I have no idea why all the not-sisters have helium tits rather than the pleasant curve of a weighted breast going on.

The physics and anatomy of breast seems to often escape sculptors. In this case it looks like they have used bad breast enlargements as their anatomy guide. But maybe it is because internet porn is cheaper than an actual book on anatomy.


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And to why this has gotten a lot of flak and others haven't? I don't even know if that is actually the case. In my case it was mostly because I clicked on this thread. Brother Vinni do some of the worst sexist crap (case in point: ukrainian slavegirl). Knowing this I do not even bother with those threads.

Hasselfree sure do some things that might be catagorised as cheesecake, but they also do all kinds of women of all shapes and almost always with agency. This makes a huge difference. Because you know, nudity per se is not the problem.

And it is hilarious that someone actually pulls the freedom of expression card. The straw men are strong in this thread.

Ironic that Jehan lives in the one country where these minis could be on every game table and no one would bat an eye. Heck in 2004, you could still buy used school girl panties from vending machines outside of 7-11 in Kita-Kyushu...

@Jorny, required breast enlargement would explain why they're all roughly the same size.

Stupid miniatures are stupid.

 jorny wrote:
And it is hilarious that someone actually pulls the freedom of expression card. The straw men are strong in this thread.

A single strawman is an annoyance, but when you've got an army of them, they quickly trample everything underfoot.



And at the risk of massive hypocrisy, I'm warming to the bikers. The rest can go hang though. Still won't buy 'em from Prodos.

I shall duly report to the torturer on the way out. I feel dirty...

I am too old for this type of female modelling...

It was fun 30+ years ago in Conan comics and in the occasional fantasy early female miniature in the 80s and 90s.
But half-naked woman in armour always were and will be nonsense.

In regard to Prodos: I want the AvP Predators. But i after 2 years i am still waiting for those.
Warzone has good models, these Space Crusade are just uninspired work (or inspired by another organ than the brain ;-)

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
I simply don't understand why it would be important to protect your shoulders and legs, but not your internal organs and ribcage. You can live without one of those things, and it's not the one with total lack of armor.

There is a tiny bit of sense in the arms/shoulder. Not for armor, but for some sort of strength enhancement. To boost your effective strength, you need to anchor against something. Just having a powered glove is not going to help you lift things. But both arms connected to a shoulder rig gets your back muscles into play, and distributes the load. You could also push/pull things together in front of you, as most of the lateral forces could be taken up by the rig.

Now once you move away from the “armor” you are limited by the fleshy parts. So by not being connected to the hips/legs, you loose a lot of the potential.

Just armoring your lower legs is going to keep the snakes off your ankles, but not much more.

Yeah, regarding unconnected armor... I feel like the flying girl in a thong would damage her back significantly in taking off/flying suddenly.

That entire setup makes me wince before we get to the sandbags.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
I have no idea why all the not-sisters have helium tits rather than the pleasant curve of a weighted breast going on.

Anti-gravity pasties, of course.

Or if you prefer, anti-graviteets.



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 TheCustomLime wrote:
Like that Dreadnought looking thing. Why have all that heavy armor plating when you're just going to hang out of it half naked? All it'd take is a stray bullet to take down that walking tank.

Yeah, the Penitent Engine is a dumb idea, isn't it?

 TheCustomLime wrote:
And yet they still give them shoddy and ineffective armor.

They don't need armor remember... they have force field generators that protect them instead of armor.

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
I like it you could also paint in armour color

I don't think armor color would have the same effect, only because there isn't a thin skin tight armor like that. I guess since they have force field generators and antigrav devices this could be a possibility but black suits make more sense, it makes it more Gantz like. You could do different color bodysuits though in Evangelion style.

 rayphoton wrote:
Painting the skin a glossy black like its a undersuit sounds like a really good idea and would look cool I think.

That is probably what I do and not because of boobs or skins, but more for an anime feel. At least I can pretend they are incased in venom like suit and substances, so when a wound happens, this black ooze fills and cauterizes it.

References:

Good morning all,

Here are Demon models, that are included in the Space Crusade Board Game (PG13 and 18+ will have the same models).

In next few days we will reveal PG13+ miniatures as well. Thanks


Thanks

I was really worried they wouldn't have breasts. Phew.