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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 01:17:38
Subject: Re:"Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Infiltrating Prowler
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insaniak wrote:While it's certainly less silly than the bikini version, it still ultimately has the same problem of heavy armour on the shoulders and legs, and none in between. Particularly with the lower leg armour being so heavy, it just looks weird.
Isn't that technically on par with Sisters of Battles though? I mean don't they have large shoulder pads, with a corset light/medium breasplate (depending on what image you go from), then fabric pants, with leg plates on them and armored boots. Another example would be star wars armor for mandalorians, they are essentially armor plates on a fabric jumpsuit. Even storm troopers are the same, armor plates fitted over a dark fabric suit of some sort.
Also force fields, so armor is really just a backup for when the force fields don't work. Unless that really isn't what protects them and that was a joke (no idea) *shrugs* I would like to know more about the game play though, but guess we'll have to wait till the BoW videos.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 01:27:25
Subject: Re:"Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Making Stuff
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Dark Severance wrote:Isn't that technically on par with Sisters of Battles though? I mean don't they have large shoulder pads, with a corset light/medium breasplate (depending on what image you go from), then fabric pants, with leg plates on them and armored boots. Another example would be star wars armor for mandalorians, they are essentially armor plates on a fabric jumpsuit. Even storm troopers are the same, armor plates fitted over a dark fabric suit of some sort.
There's a difference between wearing pants with armour plates on them, and wearing pants that don't have armour plates on them.
Battle Sisters have fully armoured legs. The corset is a little ambiguous, but I've always assumed it was actually a breastplate that just looks like a corset, or leather over an actual breastplate.
That's not at all the same thing as in this image... She's wearing armour knee-boots over what looks like regular pants, and has a similar lack of protection on her lower torso.
Also force fields, so armor is really just a backup for when the force fields don't work.
In which case it would still make more sense ot have the 'just for backup' armour covering the bits that actually matter (ie - the torso) rather than just her shins, arms and boobs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 01:33:08
Subject: "Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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The armour boots can make sense, if you had the armature Bob suggested joining the boots to the belt and the belt to the mantle. If the primary purpose is strength augmentation then having a low center of gravity - meaning heavy boots - means you're less likely to have the wearer simply fall over when they try to use that strength.
I do like the look as-is, but if you want an excuse for why it is actually practical, that would be my take on it.
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"When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 01:54:25
Subject: Re:"Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Posts with Authority
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I will be honest - I like a whole lot of things about the models shown - except for the human models themselves.
The renders for the bikes look fine.
The squidgy body horror nastiness of the not-Nurgle things is very good.
It is only the humans that fail.
This Kickstarter might do well if there was an option to skip the humans, and get pretty much everything else - though I will admit that the latest heroine model is a distinct improvement - still not enough support for what appears to be powered armor components, but much better.
The Auld Grump, but I would still want everything except the humans....
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Kilkrazy wrote:When I was a young boy all my wargames were narratively based because I played with my toy soldiers and vehicles without the use of any rules.
The reason I bought rules and became a real wargamer was because I wanted a properly thought out structure to govern the action instead of just making things up as I went along. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 01:58:40
Subject: Re:"Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Fixture of Dakka
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TheAuldGrump wrote:
This Kickstarter might do well if there was an option to skip the humans, and get pretty much everything else
I was under the impression this was not going to be a KS.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 02:28:47
Subject: Re:"Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Numberless Necron Warrior
New Zealand
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Nostromodamus wrote: TheAuldGrump wrote:
This Kickstarter might do well if there was an option to skip the humans, and get pretty much everything else
I was under the impression this was not going to be a KS.
It is most definitely not a KS, that is a mistake by Auld. Just read through this thread or Visit Prodos' webstore to confirm that.
I like the clothed models better, but it still rides too close to being a 40K clone to grab my attention personally. I will also say I do actually like the nurglingesque models, they are disgusting in the right way. I'm curious to see some rules, I still have my original copy of Space Crusade from 20 years ago, so it'll be interesting to see how it compares.
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Retired Space Marine and Necron 40K player. Looking to start Warmahordes in the future.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 03:31:07
Subject: Re:"Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Infiltrating Prowler
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insaniak wrote:There's a difference between wearing pants with armour plates on them, and wearing pants that don't have armour plates on them.
Battle Sisters have fully armoured legs. The corset is a little ambiguous, but I've always assumed it was actually a breastplate that just looks like a corset, or leather over an actual breastplate.
It depends on which concept art that gets referenced. Some of the artwork the armored legs look like Star Wars Stormtrooper armor, wrapped around tight fitting whatever, when you look at the thigh and hip areas.
Overall though I've always considered the armored upper part a frame, very similar to League of Legends Vi who uses a mining rig for her power firsts.
It also depends if we're talking human or modified humans. Most references have been considering traditional armor as opposed to other methods. Similar to having socket connectors like for some of the Starcraft suits, where the suit bolts into the armor and sockets to the legs or upper arms. It is all on perspective. Although I don't technically disagree either, just playing devils advocate a bit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 04:16:12
Subject: "Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Steadfast Grey Hunter
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Still looks like a Liefield waist (which is bad).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 04:32:14
Subject: "Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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I'm not seeing that in the last render. The waist is thin, but I've seen smaller waist to hip ratios plenty of times in real life. The proportions are also heroic enough to create plenty of Er, wiggle room.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 08:45:58
Subject: Re:"Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Dark Severance wrote:
Also force fields, so armor is really just a backup for when the force fields don't work.
So, like the guys from the Gates of Antarees setting, then?
Hyper-light Shield (HL or HLS)
Hyper-light shielding recognises the energy signature of incoming attacks and projects a specific, focused counter against it. The more distant or lower velocity the attack, the more effectively hyper-light shielding is able to identify and defend against it. Hyper-light shielding is the standard armour worn by Concord military units.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 09:56:42
Subject: Re:"Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Good morning Viet... Dakkadakka!
So next month we have in plans another wave of releases for SC, here are some WIPs to talk about:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 10:03:25
Subject: "Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Stabbin' Skarboy
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Breast augmentation must be really popular in the grim future.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 10:24:03
Subject: "Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I like the demons, That one I think would be one of the best large female demons. And the one in the first post is top also, but like others I not keen on the humans armour, the 18+ versions just look weird. The new ones in armour are much better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 10:42:30
Subject: "Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Pustulating Plague Priest
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War zone, would you mind heading over to the AvP thread and explaining to those of us who are still waiting for wave 1 why you seem to spend all your time talking about wave 2 and 3?
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There’s a difference between having a hobby and being a narcissist. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 11:28:46
Subject: "Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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That is one giant demon....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 11:31:47
Subject: "Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Not as Good as a Minion
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Joyboozer wrote:War zone, would you mind heading over to the AvP thread and explaining to those of us who are still waiting for wave 1 why you seem to spend all your time talking about wave 2 and 3?
I can understand your frustration with a kickstarter that is struggling to fulfill it's promises, but this thread is mess enough without bringing up the gak show that is the AvP...I don't even know what the word would be to describe that. So let's leave that for that thread, and this for this thread.
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I wish I had time for all the game systems I own, let alone want to own... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 11:43:04
Subject: "Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Joyboozer wrote:War zone, would you mind heading over to the AvP thread and explaining to those of us who are still waiting for wave 1 why you seem to spend all your time talking about wave 2 and 3?
Hi there, the official update has gone via KS and FB. 505 to go. thanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 11:50:17
Subject: Re:"Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Been Around the Block
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Warzone Resurrection wrote:Good morning Viet... Dakkadakka!
So next month we have in plans another wave of releases for SC, here are some WIPs to talk about:
Taking the bolted on tits dial up to 11.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 11:50:59
Subject: Re:"Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Otiose in a Niche
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As a Robotech backer I completely sympathize with the AvP backers, however let's keep this thread on topic.
Thanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 11:58:32
Subject: Re:"Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Tzeentch Veteran Marine with Psychic Potential
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Warzone Resurrection wrote:
Now, back on the topic, we are working on 2nd Heroine for armoured version of the board game (I need to stop calling it pg13 really). What is dakkadakka take on it?
Thats not really armoured so much as covered.
I was looking for plates that would support the upper armour assembly. This has all the same mechanical issues as the previous version but without feminine thighs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 12:45:37
Subject: "Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Dispassionate Imperial Judge
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Bull0 wrote:
Looks like Prodos must've deleted that, comes back as no longer available.
Yes, very probably. The point was that exactly the same criticisms of the models, the nakedness, the sexualisation was happening there. If anything, moreso, with even less people defending Prodos and more people annoyed by the models.
So im not sure about why Dakka is such a bad place for companies to post - it seems Facebook gets them just as much flakk...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 12:50:37
Subject: "Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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That middle miniature is just... not good.
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 12:55:50
Subject: "Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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ArbitorIan wrote: Bull0 wrote:
Looks like Prodos must've deleted that, comes back as no longer available.
Yes, very probably. The point was that exactly the same criticisms of the models, the nakedness, the sexualisation was happening there. If anything, moreso, with even less people defending Prodos and more people annoyed by the models.
So im not sure about why Dakka is such a bad place for companies to post - it seems Facebook gets them just as much flakk...
It's because here they have no control over censorship. The only other companies that don't have at least a small presence here are ones that have their own dedicated forums or GW style companies that just do not interaxt. Even Paladium has white knights stationed here and they are the most guarded/moderated company i think i've seen.
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LOL, Theo your mind is an amazing place, never change.-camkierhi 9/19/13
I cant believe theo is right.. damn. -comradepanda 9/26/13
None of the strange ideas we had about you involved your sexual orientation..........-Monkeytroll 12/10/13
I'd put you on ignore for that comment, if I could...Alpharius 2/11/14 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 13:18:28
Subject: "Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Omnious Orc Shaman
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far, away...
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Hilarious thread and good to know we Dakka users have a special place in the industries heart
I do like the previewed riderless bike though, would like to see a close-up of that...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 13:19:26
Subject: "Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Confessor Of Sins
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Well if a company can't take the heat.. they can't take my money either!
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Cratfworld Alaitoc (Gallery)
Order of the Red Mantle (Gallery)
Grand (little) Army of Chaos, now painting! (Blog) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 13:30:14
Subject: "Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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Ruglud wrote:Hilarious thread and good to know we Dakka users have a special place in the industries heart
I do like the previewed riderless bike though, would like to see a close-up of that...
I've seen other forums refer to dakka dakka as a "pit of vile and repungant maggots" Warseer I think . And one of the nice folks on the reaper forums says he avoids this place cause its too toxic. We do have something of a reputation apparently.
Is there gonna be a Space marine equivalent for all the models...a chaplain, a captain a ....heavy weapon squad?
Ray
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 13:33:58
Subject: "Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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Glad to see that this thread and discussion is still rolling on.
Slightly perplexed to see some of my GoA Concord pictured on this page...those guys are 100% natural and a silicon free zone.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 13:47:35
Subject: "Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Ruglud wrote:Hilarious thread and good to know we Dakka users have a special place in the industries heart
I do like the previewed riderless bike though, would like to see a close-up of that...
Hi there, here they are:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 14:03:12
Subject: "Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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hey Warzone?
Is there gonna be a possible Space marine equivalent for all the models...a chaplain, a captain a ....heavy weapon squad?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/16 14:12:24
Subject: "Space Crusade" a new game by Prodos
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Regular Dakkanaut
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rayphoton wrote:hey Warzone?
Is there gonna be a possible Space marine equivalent for all the models...a chaplain, a captain a ....heavy weapon squad?
Hi there yes, the main pack contains a rocket launcher, as for more models with a similar approach to other company miniatures, here are some concepts we have based SC on, made by a well know artist, that will be an expansion to the SC line in both, 18+ and armoured form. Thanks
please note: all you see here is just in a concept form, we will however have to do a round with our legal advisor to make sure we are not too close to some other companies IPs. Thanks
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