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2016/08/05 17:41:51
Subject: [40k] Death Masque Starter/Boxed Set & Deathwatch Codex - Pics in First Post - updated!
Is it just me, or does this stuff seem like it could very easily go the same way as 5th ed 'Herp-a-Durp Knights' went?
I mean, the very basics thus far are pretty much a complete junk shot to 'Nids & Orks, because those guys totally needed yet another swift nerf bat beating...
2016/08/05 17:41:59
Subject: Re:[40k] Death Masque Starter/Boxed Set & Deathwatch Codex - Pics in First Post - updated!
BossJakadakk wrote: So, Vanguard Veterans with special ammunition. Meaning special ammunition on bolt pistols?
Oh mamma. It's looking more and more like I'm gonna build Deathwatch instead of Raven Guard. Upgrade sprue + BaC = Mk IV Deathwatch. Too bad it looks like no using the contemptor dread.
Just use it as a normal dread?
Yeah, but that's not the point I was making. Of course I can use the model, just won't be a contemptor
2016/08/05 17:48:37
Subject: [40k] Death Masque Starter/Boxed Set & Deathwatch Codex - Pics in First Post - updated!
BossJakadakk wrote: So, Vanguard Veterans with special ammunition. Meaning special ammunition on bolt pistols?
Oh mamma. It's looking more and more like I'm gonna build Deathwatch instead of Raven Guard. Upgrade sprue + BaC = Mk IV Deathwatch. Too bad it looks like no using the contemptor dread.
Just use it as a normal dread?
Yeah, but that's not the point I was making. Of course I can use the model, just won't be a contemptor
There's always allies and whatever other crazy army building stuff there is in 40k now?
2016/08/05 17:48:52
Subject: [40k] Death Masque Starter/Boxed Set & Deathwatch Codex - Pics in First Post - updated!
BossJakadakk wrote: So, Vanguard Veterans with special ammunition. Meaning special ammunition on bolt pistols?
Oh mamma. It's looking more and more like I'm gonna build Deathwatch instead of Raven Guard. Upgrade sprue + BaC = Mk IV Deathwatch. Too bad it looks like no using the contemptor dread.
Just use it as a normal dread?
Yeah, but that's not the point I was making. Of course I can use the model, just won't be a contemptor
There's always allies and whatever other crazy army building stuff there is in 40k now?
Probably will end up doing that if I really want to, invested in some scout squads for the RG and don't want those to go to waste, either.
The point was more "Special Ammunition Pistols" and the Dread thing was very much just a side comment.
Crimson wrote:What does the Black Shield do?
I'm curious about that too. It's not "equipped with," it's "upgraded to," so it'll be a new ALE?
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2016/08/05 17:51:45
Subject: [40k] Death Masque Starter/Boxed Set & Deathwatch Codex - Pics in First Post - updated!
I need a T-shirt that says, "I was Deathwatch, when Deathwatch wasn't cool"...
I can still remember when a box of 30 Space Marines was $30.00. Now THAT'S old school! In fact, I started playing in the Rogue Trader days...yes, I am that old. Played Warhammer Fantasy for years before Rogue Trader even came out...
6,800 Pts. Ultramarines, 1,500 Pts. Deathwatch, 1,000 Pts. Black Templars, 1,000 Pts. Blood Ravens, 1,000 Pts. Emperors Children, 2,000 Pts. Word Bearers, 3,500 Pts. Eldar (Alaitoc or Biel-tan), 2,000 Pts. Tau, 2,000 Pts. Sisters of Battle, 999 Pts. of Thousand Sons, 1,000 Points Dark Eldar, 1,000 Points Adeptus Arbites, 1,000 Points Freebooters, 1,000 Points "Last Chancers", 1,000 Points Tyranids, 1,000 Points Necrons
2,500 Pts. Brotherhood, 2,000 Pts. Undead, 2,000 Pts. Sylvan Kin Elves, 2,000 Pts. Empire of Dust, 3,000 Pts. Orcs with Goblin Allies
5 Necromunda Gangs, 10 Mordheim Warbands, and 5 Frostgrave warbands
2016/08/05 18:09:34
Subject: [40k] Death Masque Starter/Boxed Set & Deathwatch Codex - Pics in First Post - updated!
CaptainLoken wrote: I need a T-shirt that says, "I was Deathwatch, when Deathwatch wasn't cool"...
Eh, won't help you...
We had maybe 2 or 3 locals who'd still play their GK's back when they were the nearly unplayable Daemonhunters back in 5th, yet they sadly got lumped in with all the bandwagon hoppers and TFG's once Knights became the most OP filth in 5th ed.
Likewise, those of us who'd suffered with the original Daemons codex all through the edition of "screw Daemons!" are still looked upon with complete scorn and rank disgust because of the couple ***hats who won't run anything except re-rolled 2++ & clown car.
About the only thing to do is to just always make sure that if/when you take the cool new toys, you take it in moderation.
(ie: I only ever take 1 Malefic Tzherald in my Tzeentch Daemons & never take it on my Horrors, simply because summoning *anything* apparently is an automatic TFG move)
2016/08/05 18:21:47
Subject: [40k] Death Masque Starter/Boxed Set & Deathwatch Codex - Pics in First Post - updated!
More questions.
1) do they have Apothecaries?
2) It shows Terminators as part of the Power Armored squad. Does the codex have this as an option to do, or is this more of an action shot(in the leaked pictures), or Special Characters(or just a sgt upgrade) that are attached to the squad?
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Black Templars 4000 Deathwatch 6000
2016/08/05 18:53:05
Subject: [40k] Death Masque Starter/Boxed Set & Deathwatch Codex - Pics in First Post - updated!
nudibranch wrote: Holy crap, that flyer's an assault vehicle... That can carry bikes...
this is huge, especially if your format allows battle brothers boarding allied transports.
Of course since Bikes are Very Bulky you'll only be able to carry four of them.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2016/08/05 19:08:32
Subject: [40k] Death Masque Starter/Boxed Set & Deathwatch Codex - Pics in First Post - updated!
nudibranch wrote: Holy crap, that flyer's an assault vehicle... That can carry bikes...
this is huge, especially if your format allows battle brothers boarding allied transports.
Of course since Bikes are Very Bulky you'll only be able to carry four of them.
Which is another classic example of people getting excited over a rule without thinking it through.
And since it's a Flyer, it has to start in Reserve, so no BB's deploying in it (according to the soon-to-be official FAQ). You'd have to wait until it comes in, Hover with it to embark your Bikes. Best case scenario Turn 3 charging out of it. Bikes can do that already.
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nudibranch wrote: Holy crap, that flyer's an assault vehicle... That can carry bikes...
this is huge, especially if your format allows battle brothers boarding allied transports.
Of course since Bikes are Very Bulky you'll only be able to carry four of them.
Which is another classic example of people getting excited over a rule without thinking it through.
And since it's a Flyer, it has to start in Reserve, so no BB's embarking on it. You'd have to wait until it comes in, Hover with it to embark your Bikes. Best case scenario Turn 3 charging out of it. Bikes can do that already.
Unless formations in the book allow otherwise, that is.
Not worth getting too excited, or too negative about, until we have the full picture.
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conker249 wrote: I don't think I have refreshed a thread more times than this one for DeathWatch information so often.
I displayed a tremendous amount of willpower by not preordering any DW stuff when I stopped by my FLGS at lunch today. I've just got too much I'm already working on. This will have to wait. Unless the formations are cool and have fun rules. Then my AoS Chaos army will have to wait to get painted.
2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress 2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
2016/08/05 19:14:00
Subject: [40k] Death Masque Starter/Boxed Set & Deathwatch Codex - Pics in First Post - updated!
Really eager to hear details about Death Masque. Any rules for the units inside? Unique formations? Does the box contain a game or special missions? Is Eldrad a member of the Harlequin faction?
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nudibranch wrote: Holy crap, that flyer's an assault vehicle... That can carry bikes...
this is huge, especially if your format allows battle brothers boarding allied transports.
Of course since Bikes are Very Bulky you'll only be able to carry four of them.
Which is another classic example of people getting excited over a rule without thinking it through.
And since it's a Flyer, it has to start in Reserve, so no BB's deploying in it (according to the soon-to-be official FAQ). You'd have to wait until it comes in, Hover with it to embark your Bikes. Best case scenario Turn 3 charging out of it. Bikes can do that already.
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DW has bikes as fast so they can start in it
2016/08/05 19:16:24
Subject: [40k] Death Masque Starter/Boxed Set & Deathwatch Codex - Pics in First Post - updated!
nudibranch wrote: Holy crap, that flyer's an assault vehicle... That can carry bikes...
this is huge, especially if your format allows battle brothers boarding allied transports.
Of course since Bikes are Very Bulky you'll only be able to carry four of them.
Which is another classic example of people getting excited over a rule without thinking it through.
And since it's a Flyer, it has to start in Reserve, so no BB's deploying in it (according to the soon-to-be official FAQ). You'd have to wait until it comes in, Hover with it to embark your Bikes. Best case scenario Turn 3 charging out of it. Bikes can do that already.
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Unless you're using Deathwatch Bikers.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2016/08/05 19:27:00
Subject: [40k] Death Masque Starter/Boxed Set & Deathwatch Codex - Pics in First Post - updated!
I can still remember when a box of 30 Space Marines was $30.00. Now THAT'S old school! In fact, I started playing in the Rogue Trader days...yes, I am that old. Played Warhammer Fantasy for years before Rogue Trader even came out...
6,800 Pts. Ultramarines, 1,500 Pts. Deathwatch, 1,000 Pts. Black Templars, 1,000 Pts. Blood Ravens, 1,000 Pts. Emperors Children, 2,000 Pts. Word Bearers, 3,500 Pts. Eldar (Alaitoc or Biel-tan), 2,000 Pts. Tau, 2,000 Pts. Sisters of Battle, 999 Pts. of Thousand Sons, 1,000 Points Dark Eldar, 1,000 Points Adeptus Arbites, 1,000 Points Freebooters, 1,000 Points "Last Chancers", 1,000 Points Tyranids, 1,000 Points Necrons
2,500 Pts. Brotherhood, 2,000 Pts. Undead, 2,000 Pts. Sylvan Kin Elves, 2,000 Pts. Empire of Dust, 3,000 Pts. Orcs with Goblin Allies
5 Necromunda Gangs, 10 Mordheim Warbands, and 5 Frostgrave warbands
2016/08/05 19:28:27
Subject: [40k] Death Masque Starter/Boxed Set & Deathwatch Codex - Pics in First Post - updated!
nudibranch wrote: Holy crap, that flyer's an assault vehicle... That can carry bikes...
this is huge, especially if your format allows battle brothers boarding allied transports.
Of course since Bikes are Very Bulky you'll only be able to carry four of them.
Which is another classic example of people getting excited over a rule without thinking it through.
And since it's a Flyer, it has to start in Reserve, so no BB's deploying in it (according to the soon-to-be official FAQ). You'd have to wait until it comes in, Hover with it to embark your Bikes. Best case scenario Turn 3 charging out of it. Bikes can do that already.
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Unless you're using Deathwatch Bikers.
Indeed. My post was trying to address both the Bikes comment and the Battle Bros comment at the same time. In either case (DW bikes, or BB bikes) 4 bikes is just too small a squad to be riding around in a Flyer. I'd rather have 10-12 dudes in there, maybe a few Temies
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5250 pts
3850 pts
2500 pts 
Black Templars 4000 
Deathwatch 6000
2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
