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**whembly**

sebster wrote:
whembly wrote:
Aw... shucks seb.

Me so sowwy.

2014 Democrats take the senate, you heard it here first

Uh... the Ds are extremely vulnerable in the Senate.

Now the House? Coin flip it.

**Dreadwinter**

I bet a lot of people are wishing they had voted for Bernie in the primary.

**NinthMusketeer**

Breotan wrote:
Say it! PRESIDENT TRUMP. SAY IT!

PRESIDENT TRUMP!! He's not the President we need, but the one we deserve!

**whembly**

This is looking like a GOP wave Top to bottom of the ticket.

...is it time for the Democrats to recalibrate and moderate a bit?

**Kanluwen**

Breotan wrote:
Say it! PRESIDENT TRUMP. SAY IT!

Not my President.

**whembly**

Kanluwen wrote:
Breotan wrote:
Say it! PRESIDENT TRUMP. SAY IT!

Not my President.

Now you know how some of us felt in 2008/2012.

**motyak**

Let's try and keep it at least semi-civil, posts saying "something something stupid liberals" or the same about conservatives aren't polite, aren't useful, and won't be permitted. Reel it in a bit, this isn't twitter, posts need to be actual posts that abide by the rules.

**Easy E**

So, does Donnie make good on his threat to try to "lock her up"?

**sebster**

whembly wrote:
By nominating Hillary Clinton.

Trump is a horrible person... and even SHE couldn't beat him.

What does that tell you about Clinton?

What does it tell you about Cruz, Rubio, Kasich etc...?

Maybe being a really horrible turd is actually an electoral advantage, because there's a lot of people out there who are drawn to horrible turds. Maybe because, you know, they're deplorables. Maybe there's even a whole basket of them.

**Ensis Ferrae**

Breotan wrote:
Say it! PRESIDENT TRUMP. SAY IT!

MSNBC still isn't calling WI, PA and MI...

**Ustrello**

Who knows maybe that great patriot will step forward and give us President Pence like that one conservative radio host predicted

**ZergSmasher**

NinthMusketeer wrote:
Breotan wrote:
Say it! PRESIDENT TRUMP. SAY IT!

PRESIDENT TRUMP!! He's not the President we need, but the one we deserve!

Have an Exalt!

Oh and I'll say it too: PRESIDENT TRUMP!!!

**BobtheInquisitor**

d-usa wrote:
BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Canada's economy is tied too much to the US. Australia is where we need to go.

My brother in Germany just finished out his attic into a spare bedroom. I guess I can always move there .

I'm also cleaning out my attic...

**SemperMortis**

Here is hoping that all those celebrities who said they were going to move start packing their crap.

**djones520**

SemperMortis wrote:
Here is hoping that all those celebrities who said they were going to move start packing their crap.

Lena Dunham was on the list. She can stay up there.

**cuda1179**

sebster wrote:
whembly wrote:
1) The Working Class Whites is the largest voting bloc in the US.

It's swung this election. But that doesn't mean it is the only determinant of elections.

2) It appears Barack Obama was an electoral aberration.

No, it really doesn't. Clinton will likely win the popular vote, meaning Democrats have won 5 of the last 6 popular votes. It's hard to call Democratic wins an aberration in that context.

A Republican win by the least Republican candidate in living memory probably says a lot about where Republican strategy should go from here, though. And a lot of that will play out in how Republicans work or don't work with Trump.

3) Polling companies are going out of business (minus Nate Silver 538 as he was fething right all along).

The various models that appeared in the wake of Silver's successes in 2008 and 2012 have been shown to be really lacking, particularly in failing to account for a correlation between states. Polling companies have shown to be about the same as always, pretty pointless singly, fairly okay when aggregated.

Trump is currently up 1.8 million votes in the popular vote, so I am pretty sure Clinton won't get that either.

**Captain Joystick**

Breotan wrote:
Say it! PRESIDENT TRUMP. SAY IT!

**Kanluwen**

whembly wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Breotan wrote:
Say it! PRESIDENT TRUMP. SAY IT!

Not my President.

Now you know how some of us felt in 2008/2012.

Difference is there's a legitimate reason to find this a despicable outcome.

**KommissarKiln**

I'm still waiting to see how my home state of Michigan turns out. There are still plenty of Detroit area precincts that represent a decent number of people...

And, yes, I think there are far more people who silently voted for Trump than there appears to be. I'm currently at the University of Michigan, and Ann Arbor is probably the most liberal city in the state. People almost aggressively support Clinton, or at the very least oppose Trump, so I'm not surprised that nobody has really bothered to present contrary opinions. It actually intimidates me, to a certain extent.

**SickSix**

Trump has actually pulled ahead in Penn to a .2% lead.

**Peregrine**

whembly wrote:
...is it time for the Democrats to recalibrate and moderate a bit?

The democrats are already moderate. They're only left in comparison to the sheer raving lunacy of the republican party, by the standards of the world as a whole they're a pretty centrist party. And even by the standards of the US they're not all that far left, given how much support Sanders got with a platform of "the democrats need to move left". The democrats didn't lose because they aren't far enough right, they lost because the US is full of deplorables and people who are gullible enough to believe things like "they're both equally bad".

**djones520**

Kanluwen wrote:
whembly wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Breotan wrote:
Say it! PRESIDENT TRUMP. SAY IT!

Not my President.

Now you know how some of us felt in 2008/2012.

Difference is there's a legitimate reason to find this a despicable outcome.

AKA "It happened to me this time, so it's legitimate for me to say it."

Are you an American? Then he will be your President. Don't want that. There are ways to rectify that situation. Contact the State Department, they'll help you out.

**AllSeeingSkink**

SemperMortis wrote:
Here is hoping that all those celebrities who said they were going to move start packing their crap.

**Chongara**

The KKK must be trilled about the results. It's been the better part of the century since the candidate they were publicly backing won. I can't say I was backing trump or that I can get behind their views, but I've got enough empathy in my to acknowledge when something is making other human beings happy.

**djones520**

They backed Reagan.

**Hordini**

SemperMortis wrote:
Here is hoping that all those celebrities who said they were going to move start packing their crap.

The vast majority of people claiming they will move are all talk. Especially the ones saying they're going to move to Canada, the country that's probably the most like the United States without being the United States.

**Kanluwen**

djones520 wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
whembly wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Breotan wrote:
Say it! PRESIDENT TRUMP. SAY IT!

Not my President.

Now you know how some of us felt in 2008/2012.

Difference is there's a legitimate reason to find this a despicable outcome.

AKA "It happened to me this time, so it's legitimate for me to say it."

AKA no sane American should have been okay with this result. Period. End of story.

**Smacks**

Peregrine wrote:
whembly wrote:
...is it time for the Democrats to recalibrate and moderate a bit?

The democrats are already moderate. They're only left in comparison to the sheer raving lunacy of the republican party, by the standards of the world as a whole they're a pretty centrist party. And even by the standards of the US they're not all that far left, given how much support Sanders got with a platform of "the democrats need to move left". The democrats didn't lose because they aren't far enough right, they lost because the US is full of deplorables and people who are gullible enough to believe things like "they're both equally bad".

This is true, from the perspective of the rest of the world, the US a right wing party, and a really fething batgak insane right wing party.

**NinthMusketeer**

Peregrine wrote:
whembly wrote:
...is it time for the Democrats to recalibrate and moderate a bit?

The democrats are already moderate. They're only left in comparison to the sheer raving lunacy of the republican party, by the standards of the world as a whole they're a pretty centrist party. And even by the standards of the US they're not all that far left, given how much support Sanders got with a platform of "the democrats need to move left". The democrats didn't lose because they aren't far enough right, they lost because the US is full of deplorables and people who are gullible enough to believe things like "they're both equally bad".

Can we cut the 'deplorables' bit? Yes, there ARE deplorable people who support Trump. Clinton too. But being willfully ignorant, blind, and/or plain dumb does not mean someone is actually a deplorable person. Many people honestly believe Trump is the better choice, despite copious evidence to objectively prove the opposite. That belief doesn't make them deplorable, just illogical.

**ZergSmasher**

Kanluwen wrote:
djones520 wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
whembly wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Breotan wrote:
Say it! PRESIDENT TRUMP. SAY IT!

Not my President.

Now you know how some of us felt in 2008/2012.

Difference is there's a legitimate reason to find this a despicable outcome.

AKA "It happened to me this time, so it's legitimate for me to say it."

AKA no sane American should have been okay with this result. Period. End of story.

I take this to mean no sane American should disagree with you. Yep. Got it.