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Does GW/FW not know what a quartermaster is?

He's the guy that issues gear, its just that Krieg QM's get their kit from dead Kriegers rather than storages of gear. Since they're always rummaging around the wounded and dying, they're also used as medic and mercy killers.

 BrookM wrote:
I wonder how long it'll take Forge World to crank out their own regimental rules for the Death Korps of Krieg and the Elysian Drop Troops.

Hopefully soon. In the meanwhile I am in the minority opinion that DKOK and Elysians and Renegades & Heretics can pick whatever Doctrine they want from the Astra Militarum book.

The FW employee who is resposible for these new DKoK casts, specifically the at-ease guys, is saying on FB that he went and found all the original parts, re-moulded and cast them, and actually this version of the kit is better and more correct than the original one. Very cool.

 Mymearan wrote:
The FW employee who is resposible for these new DKoK casts, specifically the at-ease guys, is saying on FB that he went and found all the original parts, re-moulded and cast them, and actually this version of the kit is better and more correct than the original one. Very cool.

Did it say who the person was? Bloke's a moulding hero and I take my hat off to him!

Neil Cook

Just noticed one of Forgeworld's latest promo images:



Return of the Macharius Omega or are they trolling us, the gits? Seen here

 Mymearan wrote:
Neil Cook

Thanks

For a second, I thought it was also with a Leman Russ Conqueror, and got excited. Then I realised it was the Ryza pattern Demolisher, which I don't think ever went OOP :(

Some good hopes for the eventual return of the Grenadiers.

I really hope so, they were some of the coolest models in the entire DKoK range. Also, I really think Heavy stubbers need to become a generic special weapon option for all Guard, they open up so many cool modelling opportunities. Currently is just Grenadiers with access to them for loyalists as far as I can tell.

I really wanted the Grenadiers but I wonder if GW purged them along with the Kasrkin because Scions are the standard Stormtroopers now? I don't know if that thinking would inform how FW operate though. Or if its even true. The only thing that confuses me is that they still have the heavy weapon Grendiers up. They had Stormtroopers listed as 'Temporarily OOS' for a long time then they disappeared. Was it ever confirmed anywhere what happened? Maybe they were trying to cast more but the moulds broke down? I dunno. Would be great to have them back. DKoK are great and Grenadiers are the cherries ontop.


As to the new Kriegers, so these are new casts? I just ask because I had quite a few issues with other Krieg infantry sets (like lot's of FW stuff) being full of blurry, messy details and poor casts. Would these likely be higher-quality? If so, that changes things for me...

 Oppl wrote:
I really wanted the Grenadiers but I wonder if GW purged them along with the Kasrkin because Scions are the standard Stormtroopers now? I don't know if that thinking would inform how FW operate though. Or if its even true. The only thing that confuses me is that they still have the heavy weapon Grendiers up. They had Stormtroopers listed as 'Temporarily OOS' for a long time then they disappeared. Was it ever confirmed anywhere what happened? Maybe they were trying to cast more but the moulds broke down? I dunno. Would be great to have them back. DKoK are great and Grenadiers are the cherries ontop.

I think the whole point of Grenadiers as a concept (and this actually includes the Kasrkin from a fluff perspective) is that they are Imperial Guard troops trained and equipped to a level equivalent, or close, to Scions. So Grenadiers still fit into the fluff just fine, especially as they come from a world so utterly dedicated to producing Guard regiments as Krieg.

And Grenadiers have their own rules, while Kasrkins never had them.

 Bobthehero wrote:
And Grenadiers have their own rules, while Kasrkins never had them.

3.5ed Codex doctrine "Grenadiers" would disagree.

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 Trickstick wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:
And Grenadiers have their own rules, while Kasrkins never had them.

3.5ed Codex doctrine "Grenadiers" would disagree.

(-:

Er, if I remember correctly, that doctrine just allowed an IG army to take some Storm Troopers as troops.


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 Bobthehero wrote:
And Grenadiers have their own rules, while Kasrkins never had them.

Also a good point, although they were very similar to Storm troopers.

 Haighus wrote:
Er, if I remember correctly, that doctrine just allowed an IG army to take some Storm Troopers as troops.

Ah yes, but if you were a Cadian army then they were technically Kasrkin.

Yeah that's fair. I know Kasrkin/Grenadiers aren't Scions and Scions aren't Kasrkin/Grenadiers in fluff-terms, though the training and weaponry is mostly the same. I just meant from a rules perspective since Kasrkin haven't had specific rules its probably why GW canned them and just said 'use Scions instead' as they fulfill the same role.

I totally forgot Grenadiers would have their own rules, so if anything it would make more sense for them to come back at some point. Cheers for clearing that all up. Here's hoping FW continue the DKoK refresher and get the Grenadiers up at some point now that they've got these releases announced.

Sorry to derail the thread a little bit there, people...

 Mymearan wrote:
The FW employee who is resposible for these new DKoK casts, specifically the at-ease guys, is saying on FB that he went and found all the original parts, re-moulded and cast them, and actually this version of the kit is better and more correct than the original one. Very cool.

Nice, but I wish FW put as much effort into the Elysian range as they have for version 3 of the basic DKoK infantry squad. DK have more exclusive commissars than Elysians have actual characters.

Really happy to see the full DKOK line, up and available. My winter guard list is go! woohoo.

 Bobthehero wrote:
He's the guy that issues gear, its just that Krieg QM's get their kit from dead Kriegers rather than storages of gear. Since they're always rummaging around the wounded and dying, they're also used as medic and mercy killers.

That’s actually pretty cool.

 Bobthehero wrote:
Some good hopes for the eventual return of the Grenadiers.

IIRC it's been explicitly confirmed that the grenadiers are coming back, it's just a matter of getting the mold repairs/rebuild done.

Want an omega, fingers crossed.

I can only assume they were swamped with requests for oop index models and realised they were throwing away money.

 Haighus wrote:

 Trickstick wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:
And Grenadiers have their own rules, while Kasrkins never had them.

3.5ed Codex doctrine "Grenadiers" would disagree.

(-:

Er, if I remember correctly, that doctrine just allowed an IG army to take some Storm Troopers as troops.

Stormtroopers without Deep Strike or Infiltrate as Troops, yes.

Not very useful unless you didn't want to take big platoons. I mean, Stormies weren't good in the first place (Veterans were pretty much always better), so why would you want them without Infiltrate/Deep Strike?

Anyway... days of old...

The krieg stuff looks great but doesn't deserve a release slot. Where's my tiger shark?!?! If they do more krieg next week I ain't going to be happy.

rtb02 wrote:
The krieg stuff looks great but doesn't deserve a release slot. Where's my tiger shark?!?! If they do more krieg next week I ain't going to be happy.

Unless it's them re-releasing grenadiers, in which case I will thank you for your patience!

 Davespil wrote:
Does GW/FW not know what a quartermaster is?

What do you think a Quartermaster is?

In the modern Royal Navy, a Quartermaster is the person who, at sea, steers the ship but in harbour it's the title for the person who guards the gangway.

In the British Army, it's the person who controls stores.

In the grim darkness of the far future, as far as the Death Korps are concerned, it's the person who dispatches the soon to be dead and gathers their gear to supply the next human wave.

alphaecho wrote:

 Davespil wrote:
Does GW/FW not know what a quartermaster is?

What do you think a Quartermaster is?

In the modern Royal Navy, a Quartermaster is the person who, at sea, steers the ship but in harbour it's the title for the person who guards the gangway.

In the British Army, it's the person who controls stores.

In the grim darkness of the far future, as far as the Death Korps are concerned, it's the person who dispatches the soon to be dead and gathers their gear to supply the next human wave.

Not a guy that walks around the battlefield healing or killing wounded soldiers. That's what a medical corps is for. And why would he be walking around an active battlefield scrounging for a few extra rifles or grenades? Soldiers do that after the battle. He belongs in the supply tent at the rear issuing gear and making sure command got that shipment of socks in.

Quartermaster, because to the Imperium your Lasgun is of greater value than you are.

 Davespil wrote:

alphaecho wrote:

 Davespil wrote:
Does GW/FW not know what a quartermaster is?

What do you think a Quartermaster is?

In the modern Royal Navy, a Quartermaster is the person who, at sea, steers the ship but in harbour it's the title for the person who guards the gangway.

In the British Army, it's the person who controls stores.

In the grim darkness of the far future, as far as the Death Korps are concerned, it's the person who dispatches the soon to be dead and gathers their gear to supply the next human wave.

Not a guy that walks around the battlefield healing or killing wounded soldiers. That's what a medical corps is for. And why would he be walking around an active battlefield scrounging for a few extra rifles or grenades? Soldiers do that after the battle. He belongs in the supply tent at the rear issuing gear and making sure command got that shipment of socks in.

Are you actually questioning the usage of quartermaster in a universe like this?

He also serves as a medic if you aren’t grievously wounded, and issues new equipment to soldiers with torn masks or something like that so they can get back into the fight quickly.