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 angelofvengeance wrote:
Is the 40k open day at Warhammer World? Just checking...

I assume so. They posted those photos on the Warhammer World site.

Smells like burning, burning and fires on a long awaited planet...

Oo I like that beastman, might have to get that, and also get that dread to make a bigger, better Björn.

Any rules previews for that Culln?

 gorgon wrote:
I love the creative work the FW studio does. I'm a fan. But I also can't stick my head in the sand and say it's a good thing that they're managing the core rules for HH now, given their the continuing errors and issues with their publications.

 kronk wrote:
Agreed. Still disappointed that they are sticking with what I guess is a modified 7th edition?

Ah, well. The HH guys at AdeptiCon are why I keep playing and building HH. They are fun to play with, regardless of the edition or rules. I guess I'll buy it when it comes back.

I feel like 30K is rapidly becoming a game primarily played at big events and gatherings. Many people don't have strong, thriving local 30K communities, especially after the decision to stick with 7th.

I won't be getting into 30k until the rules are updated to 8th.
(even tho I reallyreally wanna play Vulkan & the rest of the 18th in the heresy)

hobojebus wrote:
That's the most pointless loadout you could take I'd of preferred they come without arms.

Looks like Ill stick with the plastics.

*I'd have. "Of" is never an acceptable substitute for "have."

Spoffle wrote:

hobojebus wrote:
That's the most pointless loadout you could take I'd of preferred they come without arms.

Looks like Ill stick with the plastics.

*I'd have. "Of" is never an acceptable substitute for "have."

Fighting for proper grammar on the internet is a losing battle at best.


On topic, It may be the paint job, but I am not really excited about any of those new models. The tank is a mess of design elements that don't fit the Marine aesthetic properly, Culln feels slightly over-decorated, and the details on the beastman again feel slightly overdone. The Scorpions diorama troops feel more like they fit the Astartes range, but I think that they are not as well executed as the Honor Guard that comes with Severin Loth.

The new Tau aircraft I think are an improvement over the old versions (though the old ones are quite nice too) but it feels like the Astartes ranges has been slightly "off" since around when the Stormbird and Mastadon came along.

Am I the only one who finds it incredibly irritating that the barrel on the bolt pistol is not drilled out? Cmon FW... that's like... mini assembly 101.

Maybe I'm just a stickler for the detail.

Anyway. At the risk of being in the minority camp, I like that tank.

that tank is boss as hell.

At first I wasn't impressed by the new super heavy Grav tank.

But I must admit, that photo makes it look BADASS.

 Olgerth Istaarn wrote:
Am I the only one who finds it incredibly irritating that the barrel on the bolt pistol is not drilled out? Cmon FW... that's like... mini assembly 101.

Maybe I'm just a stickler for the detail.

Anyway. At the risk of being in the minority camp, I like that tank.

Supremacist...

(This has been a bizarre joke by NivlacSupreme)

I'm impressed by that tank - I didn't think Forge World would manage to make something uglier than the Primaris Repulsive, but they managed it.

That Beastman Bounty Hunter is a badass, though.

There's also some snazzy Necromunda gubbins coming. Tees, Mugs and arts and that.

https://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/2017/11/13/exclusive-products-at-the-warhammer-40000-open-days/

I had a T-shirt with Wayne England's House Escher logo in 1996. I'd like a new one.

 zedmeister wrote:
Smells like burning, burning and fires on a long awaited planet...

please don’t tease the mechanicus players it’s cruel

All I can hope for is, that with these models and a slight move towards the Red Scorpions, we’ll be getting FW rules updates soon as potentially things like stratagems and traits for forgeworld armies. As I said, I can but hope…

As for the new Dread – I’m going to reserve my judgement until I learn more about it. A chapter master leviathan dread seems pretty cool… But totally pointless? I’d expect he’d HAVE to be more points than a standard Leviathan due to chapter master buffs, but, it just means he is going to die first turn, every single game, due to him being targetable… Sure, it’ll take some firepower to do so, but it’s going to happen. Though to be fair, I’m not sure if it’d be classed as “too much of a threat” as it has a twin assault cannon for a main weapon…… It’ll all be about shutting down buffs.

In regards to the SW termies – I’m on a downer in regards to HH right now. Half my 1ksons army is still unbuilt from just before book 7 came out (which didn’t help), but the main problem is 40k 8th edition. With 8th I’m finding I’d much rather put my attention there, than with then also making sure I pick-up the new 7th rulebook and re-learn another set of rules – that, and like others said, it’s becoming more like an event “narrative” game, and these events tend to happen alongside 40k events so I’m pulled more to the 40k event instead.

The new tank looks interesting, but again, I’ll reserve judgement until I can see it in person and checkout what it can do and what it costs. It looks massive, but it’ll be a huge investment and I’d rather assess it first before buying it and finding it’s either completely broken OP or just another big target there to die while costing 1/3rd of your army.

Not really getting the feeling behind necromunda either tbh… Sure, apparently beastmen use to be a thing in 40k a long time ago, but, it just feels like a forced attempt at moving more fantasy models across into the 40k setting. The two have always been separate to be, and from a personal point of view, I’d like it to stay that way. I’ve also heard mixed reviews come from places that have done pre-release game days on it. I kind of get the impression it’s just like another version of Shadow War and likely to be just as unbalanced.

Racerguy180 wrote:

 gorgon wrote:
I love the creative work the FW studio does. I'm a fan. But I also can't stick my head in the sand and say it's a good thing that they're managing the core rules for HH now, given their the continuing errors and issues with their publications.

 kronk wrote:
Agreed. Still disappointed that they are sticking with what I guess is a modified 7th edition?

Ah, well. The HH guys at AdeptiCon are why I keep playing and building HH. They are fun to play with, regardless of the edition or rules. I guess I'll buy it when it comes back.

I feel like 30K is rapidly becoming a game primarily played at big events and gatherings. Many people don't have strong, thriving local 30K communities, especially after the decision to stick with 7th.

I won't be getting into 30k until the rules are updated to 8th.
(even tho I reallyreally wanna play Vulkan & the rest of the 18th in the heresy)

I'm going to be using my 30K WE for 40K. I have to add some things, and can't use others. But with the indices a lot of my minis are usable, and my future FW purchases will be guided by what can be used in both systems.

You should probably check out the 8th edition 30K fan project. Those guys are doing a nice job with it.

I don't think Culln will still be the Chapter master- generally being Dreadnoughted removes the Marines previous rank and relegates them to advisor, except maybe for Iron Hands.

Bjorn the Fell-handed is a good example- he was once the Space Wolves Chapter master until he got stuck in a Dreadnought.

Dunno who will be the new Chapter master of the Red Scorpions though.

 Haighus wrote:
I don't think Culln will still be the Chapter master- generally being Dreadnoughted removes the Marines previous rank and relegates them to advisor, except maybe for Iron Hands.

Bjorn the Fell-handed is a good example- he was once the Space Wolves Chapter master until he got stuck in a Dreadnought.

Dunno who will be the new Chapter master of the Red Scorpions though.

Think they said it was that guy with the Combi Flamer Pistol thing.

Man, does anyone else have an issue with the Primaris Super Heavy? I'm not looking for a well designed tank or anything, but man...I just can't like that thing.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 Haighus wrote:
I don't think Culln will still be the Chapter master- generally being Dreadnoughted removes the Marines previous rank and relegates them to advisor, except maybe for Iron Hands.

Bjorn the Fell-handed is a good example- he was once the Space Wolves Chapter master until he got stuck in a Dreadnought.

Dunno who will be the new Chapter master of the Red Scorpions though.

Think they said it was that guy with the Combi Flamer Pistol thing.

He’s got the same sword as Cullen, so guessing that’s right.

 Frankenberry wrote:
Man, does anyone else have an issue with the Primaris Super Heavy? I'm not looking for a well designed tank or anything, but man...I just can't like that thing.

It’s not just you. Personally, I think it’s horrible.

I like the giant tank, but I wish in the game it had a transport capacity.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
I like the giant tank, but I wish in the game it had a transport capacity.

Agreed!

That's the only nonsensical thing about this nonsensical thing!

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
I like the giant tank, but I wish in the game it had a transport capacity.

Likewise. I would be all over it if it had a transport capacity. Otherwise, I think they could have made it much smaller. That entire back section could be half the size.

The tank screams HALO to me...and that's a terrible thing (one of the most derivative, unimaginative and bland IPs in existence).

Regarding the barrels being drilled on the bolt pistols - these are promo pics and they won't modify the model as they sell it for that purpose. Last thing they need is someone griping that the model they received didn't have a drilled out bolt pistol barrel, etc.

The advertised product should generally be 100% what you get in the package. Basic marketing junk.

 Elbows wrote:
The tank screams HALO to me...and that's a terrible thing (one of the most derivative, unimaginative and bland IPs in existence).

Opinions may vary...

 Elbows wrote:
The tank screams HALO to me...and that's a terrible thing (one of the most derivative, unimaginative and bland IPs in existence).

Regarding the barrels being drilled on the bolt pistols - these are promo pics and they won't modify the model as they sell it for that purpose. Last thing they need is someone griping that the model they received didn't have a drilled out bolt pistol barrel, etc.

The advertised product should generally be 100% what you get in the package. Basic marketing junk.

Then we come into issue why NOT drilled barrel? Plastic it's understandable due to limits of technology. Resin less so.

That beast man is seriously cool. It’s making me consider getting Necromunda.

 djones520 wrote:

 Elbows wrote:
The tank screams HALO to me...and that's a terrible thing (one of the most derivative, unimaginative and bland IPs in existence).

Opinions may vary...

True, but who gives a damn if they do.