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**casvalremdeikun**

zamerion wrote:
Lord Kragan wrote:
New triumvirate will be 70 euros, book will be 40. Death watch and GSC get separate from box upgrade sprue for 10

please can you explain what are Deathwatch and GSC upgrades?

Thankss

the upgrade sprues that come with sets like the Vanguard Veterans or the Cadian Neophyte Hybrids. This probably signals a cessation of the kits that include them.

**RazorEdge**

Guys, did you know that the 30k Horus Heresy novels are NOT CANON?

**shinros**

A user on faeit just got his white dwarf and has posted a quote from RG from the white dwarf it's pretty small but I think it shows his outlook on the current imperium as it is now.

Spoiler:

**kronk**

RazorEdge wrote:
Guys, did you know that the 30k Horus Heresy novels are NOT CANON?

Citation needed.

They are published by Black Library and written by GW employeed authors.

**guru**

zamerion wrote:
Lord Kragan wrote:
New triumvirate will be 70 euros, book will be 40. Death watch and GSC get separate from box upgrade sprue for 10

please can you explain what are Deathwatch and GSC upgrades?

Thankss

**Kanluwen**

Lord Kragan wrote:
New triumvirate will be 70 euros, book will be 40.

That puts the book at $50 USD and the Triumvirate at $90 USD...

Death watch and GSC get separate from box upgrade sprue for 10

$13 each, going off the price brackets.

Which is kinda interesting as it puts it fifty cents cheaper than the currently sold ones.

**H.B.M.C.**

So double that for Oz. Yay.

Anyway, someone at 4Chan is posting pics of the new WD.

**zamerion**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
So double that for Oz. Yay.

Anyway, someone at 4Chan is posting pics of the new WD.

Link please

**guru**

zamerion wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
So double that for Oz. Yay.

Anyway, someone at 4Chan is posting pics of the new WD.

Link please

http://imgur.com/a/rUBWQ

**Nevelon**

casvalremdeikun wrote:
zamerion wrote:
Lord Kragan wrote:
New triumvirate will be 70 euros, book will be 40. Death watch and GSC get separate from box upgrade sprue for 10

please can you explain what are Deathwatch and GSC upgrades?

Thankss
the upgrade sprues that come with sets like the Vanguard Veterans or the Cadian Neophyte Hybrids. This probably signals a cessation of the kits that include them.

If they stop making those kits, I’m glad I picked up my DW land raider last week. For $5 more you got all the options for basic/LRR/LRC plus the DW sprue. Well worth it.

**Kanluwen**

Nevelon wrote:
casvalremdeikun wrote:
zamerion wrote:
Lord Kragan wrote:
New triumvirate will be 70 euros, book will be 40. Death watch and GSC get separate from box upgrade sprue for 10

please can you explain what are Deathwatch and GSC upgrades?

Thankss
the upgrade sprues that come with sets like the Vanguard Veterans or the Cadian Neophyte Hybrids. This probably signals a cessation of the kits that include them.

If they stop making those kits, I’m glad I picked up my DW land raider last week. For $5 more you got all the options for basic/LRR/LRC plus the DW sprue. Well worth it.

From what I understand, the DW vehicle kits were intended to be a limited stock item for a few months. Purportedly it was to test the price points and see if people liked it.

I have a sneaking suspicion that we'll see the standard LR/LRC and Rhino/Razorback kits pulled and reboxed soon. They still use the old "Picture of the model in front of a generic photoshopped background".

**casvalremdeikun**

Nevelon wrote:
casvalremdeikun wrote:
zamerion wrote:
Lord Kragan wrote:
New triumvirate will be 70 euros, book will be 40. Death watch and GSC get separate from box upgrade sprue for 10

please can you explain what are Deathwatch and GSC upgrades?

Thankss
the upgrade sprues that come with sets like the Vanguard Veterans or the Cadian Neophyte Hybrids. This probably signals a cessation of the kits that include them.

If they stop making those kits, I’m glad I picked up my DW land raider last week. For $5 more you got all the options for basic/LRR/LRC plus the DW sprue. Well worth it.

I am not saying they will discontinue them, but I could see it happening for sure. I have half a mind to pick up a DW Land Raider as well. The additional sprues give you the ability magnetize it with all options. If you don't want to do that, you at least get a free turret for a Razorback (you can probably cut the lascannons apart to make the Lascannon turret if you aren't already swimming in them like me). I am actually thinking of making a basic Land Raider with the kit and using the TLAsC for a Razorback.

I am glad to see that Guilliman hates what the Imperium became. The implications of this are pretty dire. I could see him restarting Imperium Secondus so he can try to salvage what is left of the Imperium.

**Chikout**

It seems from this pic that it will be pretty easy to adjust aroboute's pose.

**Nostromodamus**

Well, that's a good example of how NOT to pose a mini, that's for sure...

**Lord Kragan**

By the way, mark III space marines (40 euros) and tartaros termies (45 euros)are on pre-order the 11th of march week.

**JohnnyHell**

Not easy... the creator does explain in the article that he did some extensive remodelling despite the simple appearance.

**Bull0**

Chikout wrote:
It seems from this pic that it will be pretty easy to adjust aroboute's pose.

Looks horrible. Default mega stride is better, incredibly

**casvalremdeikun**

Bull0 wrote:
Chikout wrote:
It seems from this pic that it will be pretty easy to adjust aroboute's pose.

Looks horrible. Default mega stride is better, incredibly

Yes, but at least he does not appear to be a ststic-pose miniature. Definitely agree on the default pose being better.

**Davor**

He's on the brink of death, comes out fighting like nothing has ever happened? Is this what people mean he's a Mary Sue?

**kronk**

Chikout wrote:
It seems from this pic that it will be pretty easy to adjust aroboute's pose.

That is that eagle thingy from? The new Triumverate kit?

**guru**

from /tg

Spoiler:

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Davor wrote:
He's on the brink of death, comes out fighting like nothing has ever happened? Is this what people mean he's a Mary Sue?

Seems it's linked to Ynnead and Cawl.

We've seen from Part II that Ynnead has serious power over life and death - including returning Thousand Son Rubricae back to full life.

I'd imagine that Ynnead is able to stave off his death, Cawl bungs him in a life support suit, and in time Guilliman is able to heal his otherwise mortal wound.

This is speculation. Not rumour.

**JohnnyHell**

kronk wrote:
Chikout wrote:
It seems from this pic that it will be pretty easy to adjust aroboute's pose.

That is that eagle thingy from? The new Triumverate kit?

It's scratchbuilt for the diorama. I'd imagine Stormcast wings and a pile of putty.

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casvalremdeikun wrote:
Bull0 wrote:
Chikout wrote:
It seems from this pic that it will be pretty easy to adjust aroboute's pose.

Looks horrible. Default mega stride is better, incredibly
Yes, but at least he does not appear to be a ststic-pose miniature. Definitely agree on the default pose being better.

He is static pose. The creator of the diorama chopped him up and modified his pose and stance, as I posted above.

**JonWebb**

kronk wrote:
Chikout wrote:
It seems from this pic that it will be pretty easy to adjust aroboute's pose.

That is that eagle thingy from? The new Triumverate kit?

its sculpted for the piece by Seb Perbet according to the article accompanying the piece.

The flames are the bits off his base, added to some scenery.

**Nevelon**

I still don’t get why the HH marines are more expensive then the 40k ones. OK, that’s a lie, I understand that GW knows they can charge more, so does so. Still irritating.

The terminator kits at least offer a lot more options then their 40k equivalent. Power armor less so.

**Frozen Ocean**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Davor wrote:
He's on the brink of death, comes out fighting like nothing has ever happened? Is this what people mean he's a Mary Sue?

Seems it's linked to Ynnead and Cawl.

We've seen from Part II that Ynnead has serious power over life and death - including returning Thousand Son Rubricae back to full life.

I'd imagine that Ynnead is able to stave off his death, Cawl bungs him in a life support suit, and in time Guilliman is able to heal his otherwise mortal wound.

This is speculation. Not rumour.

From the White Dwarf: "You've got an ancient Tech-Priest who must get to Macragge to talk with the Lord of Ultramar, a living saint on a holy quest and a pair of mysterious Eldar characters, one of which has the power to resurrect the dead. You can probably see where this is going!"

I'm going to have to get Guilliman's model, even if just to rip it apart to use for a Daemon Prince.

EDIT: I like that, although he punched a Chaos Terminator through a wall, he didn't pulp him into nothing.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Not uninformed speculation

But speculation all the same!

**Elbows**

Nevelon wrote:
I still don’t get why the HH marines are more expensive then the 40k ones. OK, that’s a lie, I understand that GW knows they can charge more, so does so. Still irritating.

The terminator kits at least offer a lot more options then their 40k equivalent. Power armor less so.

I think, honestly, what you're seeing here is GW trying their best not to make Forgeworld kits useless/unattractive. I'm 100% convinced that's why the plastic Contemptor is a terribly boring/ugly/gakky kit. I think they knew it'd be out of a boxed game, etc. and didn't want to risk stealing any of Forgeworld's thunder. There's no reason a plastic Contemptor could have not come with the sprue size and options of a normal dreadnought, etc. I think they are being very careful to keep the plastic HH stuff either blase/basic/expensive to keep the HH moneys going to the more expensive range of FW models.

**MadCowCrazy**

Spoiler:

-=Edit=- Put this in a Spoiler tag since it's, you know... a spoiler. - Lorek

**zerosignal**

Nevelon wrote:
I still don’t get why the HH marines are more expensive then the 40k ones. OK, that’s a lie, I understand that GW knows they can charge more, so does so. Still irritating.

The terminator kits at least offer a lot more options then their 40k equivalent. Power armor less so.

I picked up two 10-man squads of Mk III Legion vets (presumably from the... Prospero? box) on ebay for... hrm, $17 each?

They were great for starting my 40K Death Guard army