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2017/03/03 19:27:06
Subject: The Gathering Storm Part III: Rise of the Primarch -- twitch broadcast 3.3.17
SeanDrake wrote: if that don't foreshadow a new powergrab I will be very surprised. The Enlightened empire home to free humanity, aeldari, custodes and Space Marines that don't need flea collars.
Anyone who at this stage does not think this is the 40k End Times fluffwise is in denial.
Yeah, this.
I'd love to be wrong, but the signs are not good.
From reading this thread that Egyptian river is getting mighty full...
GW: "We are NOT going to do an End Times like we did with WFHB." Dakkadakka: "THE END TIMES ARE COMING!! THEY'RE GOING TO BLOW UP 40K!"
Two words- Space. Hulk.
Que?
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2017/03/03 19:29:30
Subject: The Gathering Storm Part III: Rise of the Primarch -- twitch broadcast 3.3.17
I really love this painting it almost has a Norman Rockwell Saturday Evening post feel too it. Which as I think about it the doesn't is look like a Christmas painting. I mean Celestine is putting the star on the tree..er Primarch.
"Fear the cute ones."
2017/03/03 19:34:11
Subject: Re:The Gathering Storm Part III: Rise of the Primarch -- twitch broadcast 3.3.17
Most likely either Fulgrim or Morti will show up in the next installment if there is one. They've been hinting them both (Fulgrim in GS2 fighting guard). I have no idea who they could possibly add on the Deamon side of things character-wise though. New Ty and Lucius?
2017/03/03 19:35:57
Subject: The Gathering Storm Part III: Rise of the Primarch
Sersi wrote: I really love this painting it almost has a Norman Rockwell Saturday Evening post feel too it. Which as I think about it the doesn't is look like a Christmas painting. I mean Celestine is putting the star on the tree..er Primarch.
Now that you've pointed that out, I can't unsee it.
Thanks, Sersi.
2017/03/03 19:38:10
Subject: Re:The Gathering Storm Part III: Rise of the Primarch -- twitch broadcast 3.3.17
SeanDrake wrote: if that don't foreshadow a new powergrab I will be very surprised. The Enlightened empire home to free humanity, aeldari, custodes and Space Marines that don't need flea collars.
Anyone who at this stage does not think this is the 40k End Times fluffwise is in denial.
Yeah, this.
I'd love to be wrong, but the signs are not good.
From reading this thread that Egyptian river is getting mighty full...
GW: "We are NOT going to do an End Times like we did with WFHB." Dakkadakka: "THE END TIMES ARE COMING!! THEY'RE GOING TO BLOW UP 40K!"
Two words- Space. Hulk.
Que?
Up until SH's re-release in 2009 GW flat out denied the existence of it to the point of absurdity (despite leaks) until its release.
With that in mind, I really wouldn't trust anything GW says at face value.
2017/03/03 19:40:01
Subject: Re:The Gathering Storm Part III: Rise of the Primarch -- twitch broadcast 3.3.17
SeanDrake wrote: if that don't foreshadow a new powergrab I will be very surprised. The Enlightened empire home to free humanity, aeldari, custodes and Space Marines that don't need flea collars.
Anyone who at this stage does not think this is the 40k End Times fluffwise is in denial.
Yeah, this.
I'd love to be wrong, but the signs are not good.
From reading this thread that Egyptian river is getting mighty full...
GW: "We are NOT going to do an End Times like we did with WFHB." Dakkadakka: "THE END TIMES ARE COMING!! THEY'RE GOING TO BLOW UP 40K!"
Two words- Space. Hulk.
Que?
Up until SH's re-release in 2009 GW flat out denied the existence of it to the point of absurdity (despite leaks) until its release.
With that in mind, I really wouldn't trust anything GW says at face value.
GW is under new management now. I'm inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt.
GW: "We are NOT going to do an End Times like we did with WFHB." Dakkadakka: "THE END TIMES ARE COMING!! THEY'RE GOING TO BLOW UP 40K!"
They're probably not going to blow up the entire galaxy, but they're irrevocably altering the setting.
Which is...good, right? As long as they keep the setting, and don't delete it entirely like Warhammer Fantasy.
I've never been able to afford to start collecting the Horus Heresy but I would love a miniature for my Primarch (Corax), so I'd love a 40K version of him.
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2017/03/03 19:47:30
Subject: Re:The Gathering Storm Part III: Rise of the Primarch -- twitch broadcast 3.3.17
No. But then, it is bringing Primarchs back from the dead and, by the sounds of it, taking a character whose whole schtick was his mysterious motives and ambiguous allegiances in Cypher and explaining it all, so who knows where the line is for the future?
Or maybe Cypher's whole motives are all a lie? Idk, I have good faith they'll do Cypher right. Especially after using the Changeling to trick the DA into bombing Fenris, that was pretty cool.
But, once it's done, that's it. An element of lore that's been in existence since at least Codex: Angels Of Death back in the 90s will be spent. Or, as you say, it's all a bluff. How satisfying will that be, to have all this stuff return to the status quo?
I'm not sure you're responding to what I've written here? What's doubtful about something old being explored being interesting if it is done in an interesting way?
That I don't see it much more interesting than them exploring a FW Chapter. It's essentially just an offshoot of Eldar. I'm with you, I'd rather see them releasing new races/fleshing them out, like the Jokaero.
So, in essence, we agree, we just differ on where we'd want them to explore for new stuff I guess?
Yes. If, given the success of 30K, and the apparent success of the 30K boxed games as a result, the first thought anyone had in the "how shall we move the story forward" meeting wasn't "well, we could do something with the Primarchs coming back" I'll eat someone else's hat. It may ultimately be well executed, but it is also the most smack me in the balls with a soggy newspaper and call me Wanda obvious thing they could have done.
Come on, man. With Abaddon threatening Terra for 13 Crusades, the whole story was set up for an eventual Primarchs return. Hell, that's why Dorn is "dead", Khan is lost in the Warp, the Lion is asleep, etc. Calling it "low hanging fruit" just because it's obvious isn't really fair. You're mad they're finally making good on something they've been foreshadowing since Rogue Trader days?
There's no foreshadowing because there never was a story. The setting was all about humanity being on the brink. The idea of legendary figures being "gone" but not dead is ancient, it's a key part of mythology in reality as much as it is in 40K. I fully expect King Arthur to rise up and see off both Trump and the EU any day now, because he didn't die, he went to Avalon ready to return when his people needed him most.
Calling it "low hanging fruit" because it's obvious and easy is the correct application of the term "low hanging fruit" I'm not sure what else you think it means?
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
I guess that's a pretty thick silver lining eh? 5 years ago, if you liked the 40K universe but couldn't stand the game, you were stuck playing OOP games/editions, but at least nuGW is providing other places in 40K for us to play.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Also, rear left hand corner, right in the background....
Is...is that a Custodes? Looks too big to be Macragge Honour Guard?
Armour def looks like a Custodes without a helm. That does raise the question of what are the Custodes doing on Macragge? Or alternately why is Yvraine on Terra?
2017/03/03 20:15:39
Subject: Re:The Gathering Storm Part III: Rise of the Primarch -- twitch broadcast 3.3.17
Azreal13 wrote: I dont mind people disagreeing with me, but I'm afraid I am going to insist on them displaying comprehension of my argument while doing so.
Wargames being nothing like a TV show is absolutely, completely, irrelevant to the point I was making.
Awfully hypocritical to suggest that when you clearly did not understand the point I was making at all. But to each their own, I liked the setting without advancement for what it was and I will chose to like the setting with advancement for what it is. I'm sure you'll enjoy your negativity.
So if it turns out to be RG and his side vs Ecclesiarchy, I wonder and worry what side the Templars would take.
Don't they now see the Emperor as a God unfortunately, since they used to see him simply as the greatest warrior and leader humanity has ever had. Then again, their faith has always bordered on the religious but I wonder who they would side with. Honour is all. Would they disband their beliefs to follow RG. They are the Emperors rightful crusaders and it is their duty to bring the Emperor's will to all corners of the galaxy, perhaps if they believed RG is following the right path as told by the Emperor. But if RG bashed them for their over zealous ways, I dunno, don't piss off the Templars. But again, they hate the Inquisition.
Urrgggh which side is the right side?! Faith has been humanity's saviour since the Heresy. It has driven men and women to great acts of glory to ensure mankind's survival for but a second longer. Yet Religion is also humanity's greatest enemy.
Fury from faith
Faith in fury
Numquam solus ambulabis
2017/03/03 20:50:30
Subject: The Gathering Storm Part III: Rise of the Primarch -- twitch broadcast 3.3.17
I mean, he still doesn't have Gargantuan Creature buffs, but yeah, I think he could probably kill any single model in the game 1v1. I think Wulfen would probably still murder him with death frenzy though, lol.
Loving this narrative and really unsure of what's coming. certainly not all the rumors are correct. 
