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Yeah, Armigers are more of an Epic 40k unit, where they would be a unit attachment for a formation of Adeptus Mechanicus troops, much like Dreadnoughts, sentinels, etc. At the very most a small detachment on their own.

Too small for a titan-centric game, where the smallest units should be formations of Knights and superheavies (especially Shadowswords, which are well known as titan-hunters.)

Given Knight list as having a scale of 3, it's clear they have intention to add scale 1 and scale 2 unit into the game. Armiger would sit at scale 2.

Yet another week with more Chaos releases...

Well theres always next week.

SamusDrake wrote:
Yet another week with more Chaos releases...

Well theres always next week.

There’ll be more Chaos next week.

Yeah those new Terminators and Havoks do look rather good.

I bought a Chaos Terminator Lord a while back and still haven't finished him...hmmm. Whaddya reckon?

SamusDrake wrote:
Yeah those new Terminators and Havoks do look rather good.

I bought a Chaos Terminator Lord a while back and still haven't finished him...hmmm. Whaddya reckon?

I reckon you’re in the wrong thread mate.

 Nostromodamus wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Yeah those new Terminators and Havoks do look rather good.

I bought a Chaos Terminator Lord a while back and still haven't finished him...hmmm. Whaddya reckon?

I reckon you’re in the wrong thread mate.

We were referring to the preorders for next saturday. Hoping it would be something for Titanicus but once again its Chaos related stuff. In the spirit of fair play I was commenting on how nice those models were, anyway.

Just a light hearted comment and not an attempt to derail the thread, if thats what you mean.

Yup. I figure it's two or three weeks before we get any AT pre-orders.

 Azreal13 wrote:

 Nurglitch wrote:
They're pretty commonly called 'Knight-Titans'.

Not correctly they aren't. They're correctly termed Knight Suits. This is a long running bone of contention and to my knowledge nobody has ever once found an incident where GW have used the term Knight Titan.

There's other things that are classed as Titanic in 40K as well, are they titans? Or do you think they're just using the word in the sense of something extremely large?

LOL, literally proved wrong in the next post, and he goes to say he is going to tell folks their wrong. Knights also have the 'Titanic' keyword....


Congrats, you, sir, bring the hobby down with such pedantry.

If you use the terms Space Marines and Imperial Guard you should probably go for Imperial Knight Titan since they're all 'original names'

however if you want to be new and cool Adeptus Astartes, Astra Millitarum and Imperial Knights are the names for you

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
If you use the terms Space Marines and Imperial Guard you should probably go for Imperial Knight Titan since they're all 'original names'

however if you want to be new and cool Adeptus Astartes, Astra Millitarum and Imperial Knights are the names for you

Imperial Knights existed as that for a fair long while before there was a model box with "Imperial Knight Titan" written on it.

Come to the N&R thread hoping that there’s N&R.

See asanine nomenclature arguements.

I should have expected it but I’m an optimistic person.

Right, been a while since the last one, so guys, please take all other discussion elsewhere and stick to news and rumours for this topic. When lacking news and the such, just let the topic rest until something relevant does come up, okay?

Okay!

Does Titanicus have its own AdeptiCon "preview" event, or is it subsumed by the other seminars?

SamusDrake wrote:

I would assume that Armigers would only be of value in all-Knight battles,

Warglaives can hurt titans in h2h as well and melta is even better gun than melta gun of questors and at range. Helverins meanwhile should affect shields so potentially cheap shield strippers.

tneva82 wrote:


Warglaives can hurt titans in h2h as well and melta is even better gun than melta gun of questors and at range. Helverins meanwhile should affect shields so potentially cheap shield strippers.

The melta gun mounted on Armiger carapace is the exact same one Questoris Knight have, Thermal Spear and Reaper chain cleaver are all scaled down version of Questoris weapon

 schoon wrote:
Does Titanicus have its own AdeptiCon "preview" event, or is it subsumed by the other seminars?

If they had something for AT it would have been shown with the rest. I guess they don't have anything to unveil for now, and we should just expect Doom of Molech, new terrain and resin weapons in the next couple of months.

Chopstick wrote:

tneva82 wrote:


Warglaives can hurt titans in h2h as well and melta is even better gun than melta gun of questors and at range. Helverins meanwhile should affect shields so potentially cheap shield strippers.

The melta gun mounted on Armiger carapace is the exact same one Questoris Knight have, Thermal Spear and Reaper chain cleaver are all scaled down version of Questoris weapon

I was refering specifically to the thermal spear. That's better than melta gun(the carapace weapon) and since the melta gun in questors hurts titans why not thermal spear? At a range too seeing it's ranged weapon. Look at the melta gun rule, make it shooting attack except bit better and with range further than 2" and...how is that NOT useful vs titans? And then factor in there would be lots of warglaives...

tneva82 wrote:

I was refering specifically to the thermal spear. That's better than melta gun(the carapace weapon) and since the melta gun in questors hurts titans why not thermal spear? At a range too seeing it's ranged weapon. Look at the melta gun rule, make it shooting attack except bit better and with range further than 2" and...how is that NOT useful vs titans? And then factor in there would be lots of warglaives...

Ugh...Just pointing out that's quite a bizzare comparison since they're not the equivalence of the other , and given that both Armiger and Questoris being able to take same carapace meltagun, while Questoris can take Thermal cannon which is the equivalence of the Spear for comparison.

So if I follow AT rule-writer's weird logic I'd say the Spear would be at S8 with less range, maybe with no Fusion rule.

I never said (potentially) cheap S8 spam isn't useful.

And I was never talking about the carapace meltagun so why bring that up? I was pointing the warglaives have weapon that clearly should have weapon that hurts. And since comment I was refering specifically said warglaives would be only useful in all knight combat...with what logic? Cheap models with weapons that hurt titans are useless outside all knight battles?

I would assume that Armigers would only be of value in all-Knight battles,

This is what I'm refering to. Both armigers have weapon titans have something to worry. One has rapid firing shield stripping weapon. Other has gun and cc weapon that hurts titans. And both can have carapace that further hurts titan armour.

tneva82 wrote:
And I was never talking about the carapace meltagun so why bring that up?

I was refer to this remark

... even better gun than melta gun of questors and at range.

which i think is an unfair comparison, one is a mandatory main weapon, the other is a very expensive optional sub weapon that both knights can take. I mean why not comapre to the Thermal Spear equivalance? Which is the Thermal cannon, it is a main weapon, and is even cheaper than the Melta carapace.


Also I made a post about Armiger a few pages back, which I addressed Warglaive as cheap S8 spam and Helverin as cheap shield stripper (assuming rule-writer actually made them cheap)

tneva82 wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:

I would assume that Armigers would only be of value in all-Knight battles,

Warglaives can hurt titans in h2h as well and melta is even better gun than melta gun of questors and at range. Helverins meanwhile should affect shields so potentially cheap shield strippers.

Brookm has encouraged us not to continue until we receive further update on the game. I hope you understand and not take it personally.

That said, I'm glad you see potential for Armigers in our fair game, and it gives me a bit of hope that we might see them released some day...

 xttz wrote:

 schoon wrote:
Does Titanicus have its own AdeptiCon "preview" event, or is it subsumed by the other seminars?

If they had something for AT it would have been shown with the rest. I guess they don't have anything to unveil for now, and we should just expect Doom of Molech, new terrain and resin weapons in the next couple of months.

Yeah, I think they've already unveiled most of the imminent stuff, so there wasn't any point. It would be cool if 'tweener' titans were coming soon, but the way they talk about them makes them sound like they might be 2020 releases.

 gorgon wrote:

 xttz wrote:

 schoon wrote:
Does Titanicus have its own AdeptiCon "preview" event, or is it subsumed by the other seminars?

If they had something for AT it would have been shown with the rest. I guess they don't have anything to unveil for now, and we should just expect Doom of Molech, new terrain and resin weapons in the next couple of months.

Yeah, I think they've already unveiled most of the imminent stuff, so there wasn't any point. It would be cool if 'tweener' titans were coming soon, but the way they talk about them makes them sound like they might be 2020 releases.

In the Doom Of Molech preview it has been said that one of the included maniples is an all-scout maniple. However, they said it wasn't necessarily all warhounds. Considering the previous release of Titandeath( with weapon sprues, a new reaver and decal sheet ), I have a gut feeling we'll see the Cerastus variants and a new scout titan to go alongside the release of Doom of Molech in april. The new Disney Princess towers seem very likely too.

Right, I've broken my own rule there( sorry tneva82! ) and shall remain quiet until monday when they announce the Imperator.

Actually that’s a good point. The hint about the not-Warhound scout Titans, the focus on Knights, and the story being about the Fall of House Devine, makes this the exact optimum moment to release the ‘uncorrupted’ precursors of the hell-scourge, -strider, and -knight, as well as the precursor Questor and Subjugator.
Better yet that’s a couple of months of releases right there, plenty to tide folks over until the next book.

Can't wait to see Legio Interfector's colour plates, given how awesome their scheme sounds.

SamusDrake wrote:
In the Doom Of Molech preview it has been said that one of the included maniples is an all-scout maniple. However, they said it wasn't necessarily all warhounds. Considering the previous release of Titandeath( with weapon sprues, a new reaver and decal sheet ), I have a gut feeling we'll see the Cerastus variants and a new scout titan to go alongside the release of Doom of Molech in april. The new Disney Princess towers seem very likely too.

While I would love for this to be true, they did not say there would be an all-scout Maniple in DoM.

They did say that Legio Audax used all-scout Maniples that were not all Warhounds, but it was not in relation to DoM content.

So sadly I think it's in a future book.

Thing is, there already is an “all scout” maniple in Titandeath – the Lupercal – and that is all Warhounds.
Maybe the answer was a direct response to a question about the Lupercal maniple?
We just don’t have the context for that though.

 schoon wrote:


While I would love for this to be true, they did not say there would be an all-scout Maniple in DoM.

They did say that Legio Audax used all-scout Maniples that were not all Warhounds, but it was not in relation to DoM content.

So sadly I think it's in a future book.

Ah. Thank you for clearing that up.

I’d imagine we’ll start to get a whiff of newly new Titans once Doom of Molech is out. Because that book gives the existing Knights some loving, introducing further variety to people’s forces. And as we’ve seen a few of the other weapons, new Titans is pretty much all that they can go with.