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2019/07/16 20:23:53
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news and rumours - Seminar Pg p.218, Acastus p.230.
I'm glad they're putting stuff in WD, but since these days the one Specialist Games-related rules article is probably the only thing in the whole issue I actually care to read, I won't buy them blind. I'll hold off until I can read them thoroughly and decide if it's worth the six quid, given there's every chance these are a pseudo-beta like the initial GSC, Venators, and Chaos gangs for Necromunda were.
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2019/07/16 20:40:46
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news and rumours - Seminar Pg p.218, Acastus p.230.
Certainly look like a min/max-er dream. You can pick a trait/stratagem/wargear from other legios, youn turn generic stratagem into your legio stratagem at -1 cost.
The tradeoff is that they don't have their own Princep Seniores personal trait and had to use the 6 generic one from the rulebook.
Sherrypie wrote: I put some thoughts above about a highly mobile melee Legio with custom rules, any toughts?
Astorum's trait + Gryphonicus's Motive Sub Reactor.
But too bad you're now a filthy traitor
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2019/07/16 20:52:13
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news and rumours - Seminar Pg p.218, Acastus p.230.
For those on the fence on purchasing this month's WD, Ingrid from Bitzbox has a butchers...
...just skip to 8:00 for the AT article. I'm personally totally revved-up for this one( first issue since Christmas ) as it comes with other awesome stuff such as Chaos Demons for Kill Team. Been looking for enough excuses to purchase a full set of minis for Duels of the Crystal Labyrinth and a Thousand Sons/Tzeentch themed kill team! Oh, a bit on Deathworld Jungles - might be useful in Lost Patrol projects...
Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
2019/07/16 21:07:46
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news and rumours - Seminar Pg p.218, Acastus p.230.
gorgon wrote: Yeah, we're gonna see some *interesting stuff* coming from War Doctrine.
It seems like they made an attempt to add some anti-Knight options (Dark Reputation, Multiple Warhead Launchers, etc.).
Multiple Warhead Launcher is worthless against knights. at S3 you deal 1 structure damage on an armour roll of 6 to a Questoris/Cerastus and is completely useless against Acastus. Assuming their Ion Shield somehow fail to deflect the puny S3 hit.
They can't even drop shiled.
The only thing they would be useful for is to kill tiny marines, if tiny marines ever show up.
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2019/07/16 21:09:01
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news and rumours - Seminar Pg p.218, Acastus p.230.
Edit: I still find Fury of the Fallen baffling. Maybe I'm missing something? It seems like the idea is that if the Titan is sure to die, you move close, push up your reactor level however you can, trigger it, and let loose twice with whatever functioning weapons you have before hopefully getting a magazine detonation or meltdown. Without activations throwing any of this plan off. Cinematic, but it sure seems like a lot has to go right there for that to work.
Or for the same slot, you can get an extra repair dice for all Titans all game long plus the command check boost for ER. I know which one I'd pick. Shoot, with Splinter Legio, you can take the Astorum trait too and start getting rerolls. Warlords with 5 repair dice plus 2 rerolls seem awfully solid.
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All the fun is on the traitor side, joyless loyalist.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Dual Vulcan Warhounds with Macro Magazines and Interfector Static Rounds (through Warchest): for when you absolutely, positively have to get those shields down.
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Sherrypie wrote: I put some thoughts above about a highly mobile melee Legio with custom rules, any toughts?
Astorum's trait + Gryphonicus's Motive Sub Reactor.
But too bad you're now a filthy traitor
That's entirely worthless, though, as the sub reactor can only be purchased on a Reaver that was swapped in place of a Warhound, whereas the Splinter(Astorum) + Motive Mastery + War Lust does wonders against any lineup if they don't play Vox Blackout.
TBD wrote: Wtf, I need a White Dwarf now for special AT rules?
Well, providing support for the games we own is what White Dwarf is for, and has been for the last 30-40 years. How to paint models, new missions, stories, rules for new characters and even small games, are what it provides.
Quite frankly, WD hasn't covered AT since February and I'd say its high time they did something for it.
Is it support for the game or another way they make us spend more money on things they should have put in a rulebook to begin with? I want my rules for this game to not take the 40K route and have them in rulebooks & on cards only. This is starting to become a big mess already,
So GW can take a hike with their WD. I am not using any rules published in there and probably won't play against any such rules.
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TBD wrote: Wtf, I need a White Dwarf now for special AT rules?
Well, providing support for the games we own is what White Dwarf is for, and has been for the last 30-40 years. How to paint models, new missions, stories, rules for new characters and even small games, are what it provides.
Quite frankly, WD hasn't covered AT since February and I'd say its high time they did something for it.
Is it support for the game or another way they make us spend more money on things they should have put in a rulebook to begin with? I want my rules for this game to not take the 40K route and have them in rulebooks & on cards only. This is starting to become a big mess already,
So GW can take a hike with their WD. I am not using any rules published in there and probably won't play against any such rules.
Well, that's a bit harsh. And, I think, a minority viewpoint. The return of White Dwarf to the format of 'Rules Supplement' is what people have been crying out for. As a retailer, sales of the magazine have increased due to this return to the good old days.
But we're drifting off topic....
2019/07/17 09:28:31
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news and rumours - Seminar Pg p.218, Acastus p.230.
So you think they shouldn't do rules content in their magazine, which has done that for decades as its best content, nor count that as support for the game? Riiiight. The horror, the company producing a game is supporting the game! Gah!
Scans of those relevant pages are online already if your problem is with paying for them, or is this an ideological problem that there shouldn't be any cool content outside clearly defined expansion books?
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TBD wrote: Wtf, I need a White Dwarf now for special AT rules?
Well, providing support for the games we own is what White Dwarf is for, and has been for the last 30-40 years. How to paint models, new missions, stories, rules for new characters and even small games, are what it provides.
Quite frankly, WD hasn't covered AT since February and I'd say its high time they did something for it.
Is it support for the game or another way they make us spend more money on things they should have put in a rulebook to begin with? I want my rules for this game to not take the 40K route and have them in rulebooks & on cards only. This is starting to become a big mess already,
So GW can take a hike with their WD. I am not using any rules published in there and probably won't play against any such rules.
Well, you're maybe in luck because they used to publish compendiums for the rules that were found in WD, so if you don't want to buy WD, once every year or two you could buy a little book with all the extra stuff consolidated in one place.
TBD wrote: Wtf, I need a White Dwarf now for special AT rules?
Well, providing support for the games we own is what White Dwarf is for, and has been for the last 30-40 years. How to paint models, new missions, stories, rules for new characters and even small games, are what it provides.
Quite frankly, WD hasn't covered AT since February and I'd say its high time they did something for it.
Is it support for the game or another way they make us spend more money on things they should have put in a rulebook to begin with? I want my rules for this game to not take the 40K route and have them in rulebooks & on cards only. This is starting to become a big mess already,
So GW can take a hike with their WD. I am not using any rules published in there and probably won't play against any such rules.
Well, that's a bit harsh. And, I think, a minority viewpoint. The return of White Dwarf to the format of 'Rules Supplement' is what people have been crying out for. As a retailer, sales of the magazine have increased due to this return to the good old days.
But we're drifting off topic....
I know I'm glad that WD has returned to having actual game content in it - its the only reason I subscribed again!
I'm especially grateful when it has stuff for the 'smaller' games in it, like AT and KT...
The WD rules are surprisingly flexible and was able to match up ones for my battlegroup quickly. Feel like its complete now!
Its a shame AT doesn't see much love in WD, because I'd like to see more Titan-Knight maniples or just anything AT-related. But, so far I'm very pleased with the new crusade rules.
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Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
2019/07/21 00:34:59
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news and rumours - Seminar Pg p.218, Acastus p.230.
Chopstick wrote: I'm waiting for cerastus upgrade, (hopefully soon)
Questoris upgrade sprue is more of a decorations for a knight banner than something that is actually useful for them. (and their army)
Goodness me, I am with you on the cerastus upgrades!
Thinking about it, all they had to do was a single sprue containing some rocket pods and meltas for the Qs and the weapons for the Cs, and I think we would have been happy. Yet, as the Qs have a separate sprue, I'm wondering if the sprue for the Cs will have not just the weapons but also new carapaces with variant shoulder pads?
Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
2019/07/21 22:05:51
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news and rumours - Seminar Pg p.218, Acastus p.230.
Chopstick wrote: I'm waiting for cerastus upgrade, (hopefully soon)
Questoris upgrade sprue is more of a decorations for a knight banner than something that is actually useful for them. (and their army)
Goodness me, I am with you on the cerastus upgrades!
Thinking about it, all they had to do was a single sprue containing some rocket pods and meltas for the Qs and the weapons for the Cs, and I think we would have been happy. Yet, as the Qs have a separate sprue, I'm wondering if the sprue for the Cs will have not just the weapons but also new carapaces with variant shoulder pads?
I'm still hoping for the demand to be high enough to justify a third weapon sprue for the warlord, and maybe a mini sprue with the extra reaver carapace weapons.
2019/07/21 23:37:39
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news and rumours - Seminar Pg p.218, Acastus p.230.
That'll be interesting. Hopefully they'll have seen the difficulty of keeping the resin gatling and quake cannons in stock, and switch to plastic. It might increase the lead-in time though.
2019/07/22 00:20:44
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news and rumours - Seminar Pg p.218, Acastus p.230.
Mandragola wrote: That'll be interesting. Hopefully they'll have seen the difficulty of keeping the resin gatling and quake cannons in stock, and switch to plastic. It might increase the lead-in time though.
They would still probably show up sooner than the resin ones on the us site
Not sure if it has been posted here yet or not but there is a kickstarter for Titanicus-scale terrain in its final couple of weeks. Some very nice looking hard plastic kits and great value STL sets if you have a 3D printer as well.
On a somewhat related question, was it ever confirmed that the Aeronautica Imperialis reboot would be in a similar scale to Titanicus? It would be nice if my current terrain worked for a couple of different games after all!
On a somewhat related question, was it ever confirmed that the Aeronautica Imperialis reboot would be in a similar scale to Titanicus? It would be nice if my current terrain worked for a couple of different games after all!
The question is is there any reason not to make them at the same scale? When they made AT they clearly leave room for future expansion like tiny infantry and stuff.
2019/07/22 07:19:25
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news and rumours - Seminar Pg p.218, Acastus p.230.
Commander Cain wrote: On a somewhat related question, was it ever confirmed that the Aeronautica Imperialis reboot would be in a similar scale to Titanicus? It would be nice if my current terrain worked for a couple of different games after all!
No, there has thus far been no official word on this.
Though it would certainly make sense, when has that ever been a deciding factor...
Commander Cain wrote: Not sure if it has been posted here yet or not but there is a kickstarter for Titanicus-scale terrain in its final couple of weeks. Some very nice looking hard plastic kits and great value STL sets if you have a 3D printer as well.
On a somewhat related question, was it ever confirmed that the Aeronautica Imperialis reboot would be in a similar scale to Titanicus? It would be nice if my current terrain worked for a couple of different games after all!
